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Old 07-20-04 | 09:02 PM
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G-Force programmable?

Got a FD with a few mods done to it. It was formerly a show car and has a G-Force ecu as one of the mods. There was a dyno done to show the hp, but I think it was tuned to show some extreme hp, cause on the dyno graph it also showed an A/F ratio. It started around 14 at 3.5k rpm, and just went down to AT or BELOW 10. That, I think, is the reason the previous owner and myself have lost an engine to this car.

My question is, if I get a rebuild and break the car in, can I get the car dynotuned on this ECU, and can't I program it? Does it have set parameters that can't be altered? Otherwise I'm just going to probably go el-cheapo tuner wise and get an s-afc2 or something, tune it to that, then sell the car.
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The G-Force is a rechipped stock ECU. You can't simply program it like a programmable ECU.

What mods are on the car?
Old 07-23-04 | 04:04 PM
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G-force ECU, Greddy - intercooler, pullies, cat-back, throttle body elbow, midpipe, atr downpipe, pettit cold air intake. Those are all the performance mods.
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It's most likely that midpipe the problem child. Most of the rechipped ECU's don't recommend using a midpipe with them. Pettit is the only one I know that used to support that for their chip.

Doesn't mean it can't be done, it just the manufacturers of the other ECU's didn't suggest doing it.

Throw a hi-flo cat in it's place and you'll be fine.
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How would that make a difference, and how would I find out specifically what G-force recommends?
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How would that make a difference
The midpipe is going to flow more than a hi-flo cat. If the G-Force ECU isn't providing enough fuel to support the CFM being pushed through a midpipe, then you have a lean condition which can equal detonation. Using a hi-flo can add some restriction, thus keeping you safer.

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and how would I find out specifically what G-force recommends?
You can't, the company is gone.
Old 07-24-04 | 06:02 AM
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Ok well that's worth looking into. Sounds like there's little or no room for dynotuning without something to be tuned, since the ECU can't take outside parameters.

This is just because I don't understand, but how could the absence of a cat cause lean conditions in the combustion chamber? My only guess would be something to do with backpressure...but I thought turbos didn't like that. I mean, once the exhaust leaves through the exhaust port in the rotor housing, the engine considers it a done deal, right? Unless it's something to do with excess heat from the midpipe somehow effecting the engine, heat the cat would normally help absorb? I'm confused =T
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Reducing backpressure allows more air to flow through the entire system (which also typically means higher and uncontrollable boost). More air coming in, means higher A/F ratios.
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