Single turbo drift cars?
#1
Single turbo drift cars?
What turbo have you found to work for better respose. My car came with a t-78 and under 3.5k this turbo doesnt even spool. I'm thinking in getting a gt35r. What do you guys think? I need something that will have good response around 3k and can handle up to 9k with 500hp.
#2
500 horses for drifting is pointless. I would go with a twin setup on the FD. like a set of GT28R's. If you insist on a single I believe the RX6 turbo from APEX'i has a pretty decent power band and spool time. it levels out at higher rpm's so you wont get boost spike and spin your car.
#3
500 horses for drifting is pointless. I would go with a twin setup on the FD. like a set of GT28R's. If you insist on a single I believe the RX6 turbo from APEX'i has a pretty decent power band and spool time. it levels out at higher rpm's so you wont get boost spike and spin your car.
a guy with a non turbo 2nd gen trying to point out retarded turbo options... awesome
I would definitly say that the gt35r T4 housing would be a good choice. This guy did 511 on the T3 housing https://www.rx7club.com/single-turbo-rx-7s-23/maxed-out-gt35r-t3-dyno-746924/
and here Jason at the rx7 store will hit 15 psi at 3600 rpm https://www.rx7club.com/single-turbo-rx-7s-23/gt35r-dyno-754690/
But also both those cars have street ports, I dont know what kind of port you have.
#5
a guy with a non turbo 2nd gen trying to point out retarded turbo options... awesome
I would definitly say that the gt35r T4 housing would be a good choice. This guy did 511 on the T3 housing https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=746924
and here Jason at the rx7 store will hit 15 psi at 3600 rpm https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=754690
But also both those cars have street ports, I dont know what kind of port you have.
I would definitly say that the gt35r T4 housing would be a good choice. This guy did 511 on the T3 housing https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=746924
and here Jason at the rx7 store will hit 15 psi at 3600 rpm https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=754690
But also both those cars have street ports, I dont know what kind of port you have.
#6
no thats what im doing cause im just retarded like that... hm maybe my current car isnt the first 7 iv owned but thats impossible. Hey did your mom punch herself in the stomach while she was pregnant with you? also what i was saying is that making that much power in a drift car is pointless all your gonna do is spin it when you get to the top end. if he uses it for stuff other than drifting and cruising than i would have different recommendations for turbos. I hope you get raped by a flock of rabid wild ducks.
pointless.....not so much. I'm looking for a good 400hp set up and faster response from the turbo to help my needs. I should of posted this under single turbo 7's. With good trottle control you can avoid spinning out. And please if you dont have any experience with a single turbo drift car please see the door.
#7
i hear ya on the low speed corners. it was getting really frustrating for a while.
then i learned to half-clutch.
that **** works wonders. i cant say from experience for an FD but in my FC, it really helps out.
also, when using the ebrake to extend a drift, try keeping your right foot on the gas while the clutch is in. that took me a while to match that right. it sounds easy but is hard to hold the clutch in, ebrake, rev-match, countersteer, and fight all the g-forces at the same time.
im not trying to talk to you like your an idiot but try it out if you havent already.
then i learned to half-clutch.
that **** works wonders. i cant say from experience for an FD but in my FC, it really helps out.
also, when using the ebrake to extend a drift, try keeping your right foot on the gas while the clutch is in. that took me a while to match that right. it sounds easy but is hard to hold the clutch in, ebrake, rev-match, countersteer, and fight all the g-forces at the same time.
im not trying to talk to you like your an idiot but try it out if you havent already.
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#9
change your drivig style not the turbo...
3.5k is pretty responsive.. my ghetto t04 setup doesnt really come on unitl 5k.. and i can still drift fine....
russTII is spot on , if you come in on a big hand brake entry or something give it some revs before you drop the clutch otherwise of course it will bog down..
3.5k is pretty responsive.. my ghetto t04 setup doesnt really come on unitl 5k.. and i can still drift fine....
russTII is spot on , if you come in on a big hand brake entry or something give it some revs before you drop the clutch otherwise of course it will bog down..
#12
+1 on technique. Learn to throw the car around a little more. Seems like you are trying to use in boost power to start the drift when you should already be sideways. It's times like these when knowing how to drift an underpowered car comes in handy.
#14
I would say begineer. I drifted my s14 a few times and this was my first time with this car. Night and day. The fd would rather grip than go sideways.
top mount view of the track is my car. Also towards the end of the video you can see my car. Fast sweepers I have no problems. Slow turns and the car would fall out of boost.
https://www.rx7club.com/drifting-226/pungo-drift-5-31-2008-video-fd-760687/
top mount view of the track is my car. Also towards the end of the video you can see my car. Fast sweepers I have no problems. Slow turns and the car would fall out of boost.
https://www.rx7club.com/drifting-226/pungo-drift-5-31-2008-video-fd-760687/
#15
500hp is not pointless in a drift car in fact that is the norm for Nope and Formula D. Peak numbers is not so important as with any car it is the power under the curve. I hate that phrase but you need a broad torque curve at numerous tracks. I have driven at places where even with 400hp at 6900 rpm that I really needed 3rd gear and it would take a lot of line changing and entry set up to be able to get the power in third when you need it. That is the nature of turbo cars.
There are a couple of techniques to keep the boost up and it really depends on how you enter the first curve, you have to plan an attack on the entire course not just one corner, if you mess up on the first corner most times you leave that corner messed up which leaves you entering the next on messed up.........chain reaction. You might have to shallow your angle in order to really put it on for the next corner. You cannot have stupid massive angle with stupid fast speed on ever corner, even though that is the goal. Spinning at the top of your RPM band means you lack throttle control or your line was off in the beginning. Too much power has never been a problem.
I have used a TD06 20G 378 rwhp decent spool, no problems drifting most tracks.
I am now using a T04S with a1.15 back half.... really high strung and really need to step down the A/R but I can work with it for a while. I have drifted numerous cars with numerous setups but with a rotary I would like to try the gt35r. With a port you could easily have a broad curve that would fall off.
There are a couple of techniques to keep the boost up and it really depends on how you enter the first curve, you have to plan an attack on the entire course not just one corner, if you mess up on the first corner most times you leave that corner messed up which leaves you entering the next on messed up.........chain reaction. You might have to shallow your angle in order to really put it on for the next corner. You cannot have stupid massive angle with stupid fast speed on ever corner, even though that is the goal. Spinning at the top of your RPM band means you lack throttle control or your line was off in the beginning. Too much power has never been a problem.
I have used a TD06 20G 378 rwhp decent spool, no problems drifting most tracks.
I am now using a T04S with a1.15 back half.... really high strung and really need to step down the A/R but I can work with it for a while. I have drifted numerous cars with numerous setups but with a rotary I would like to try the gt35r. With a port you could easily have a broad curve that would fall off.
#16
yum.. 450 soild whp and drifting
As two of you already said the 35R (close to $1250) is the way to go if single but if you can something other then DBB is best if you beating the hell out of it. The cost of a non bb turbo is much less with the same 1 yr warranty, you have a heck of alot of exhaust gas to spool shouldnt be a major issue if you pick the correct turbo.
Id personally save some cash and rock a SC61 Open T4 .96 from Precision (close to $800) (its a upgraded garrett turbo with Precision castings if you never heard of Precision) plus you dont have to hook up those pesky coolent lines. The SC61 has more options thus if wanted its more capable of more whp then a 35R. The bad is it doesnt have a divided T4 housing option.
We have seen a nice gain in spoolup with a divided turbo and manifold. If you can go divided the GT4082 (close to $850) spools up faster then you would think and still provides good power up top.. now that Precision released the new wheels for the SC series its hard to say which turbo would be better for 400-500whp and drifting.. id go divided in the end but you would have alot higher cost if thats the case because of a manifold and wastegate robbing the piggy bank.
Id personally save some cash and rock a SC61 Open T4 .96 from Precision (close to $800) (its a upgraded garrett turbo with Precision castings if you never heard of Precision) plus you dont have to hook up those pesky coolent lines. The SC61 has more options thus if wanted its more capable of more whp then a 35R. The bad is it doesnt have a divided T4 housing option.
We have seen a nice gain in spoolup with a divided turbo and manifold. If you can go divided the GT4082 (close to $850) spools up faster then you would think and still provides good power up top.. now that Precision released the new wheels for the SC series its hard to say which turbo would be better for 400-500whp and drifting.. id go divided in the end but you would have alot higher cost if thats the case because of a manifold and wastegate robbing the piggy bank.
#17
+1 for above post. I have never used a BB turbo personally. I always use the cheaper option because I am not made of money. That is why I still have the 1.15 housing.
the GT turbines are not the end all be all, there are many choices out there to make the power you need.
the GT turbines are not the end all be all, there are many choices out there to make the power you need.
#19
apexi rx6. 400rwhp and full boost by 2750. this thing is wicked. most of us rx7 guys buy too big of turbos. buy one that really suits your needs. i ran a t78 for a while on a 90 t2 and it was nuts. 5000rpm before boost. really hard to control that. and it only made 440 rwhp at 18lbs. the rx6 makes 380 and has boost 2500rpm sooner and i can run much less rpm redline and the motor will last alot longer.
#20
i have seen a T78 full spool 10psi @ 3500rpm(my old T78 on a friends car)
it really depends which T78 you have and what housings and the tune. so many people cars dont run right and spool turbos at 5k rpm. keep in mind when the T78 was in my car it also spooled at 5k because i tuned it super rich
it really depends which T78 you have and what housings and the tune. so many people cars dont run right and spool turbos at 5k rpm. keep in mind when the T78 was in my car it also spooled at 5k because i tuned it super rich
#24
After looking at a few compressor maps I went with the .83 a/r . I really wanted a a/r between .85-90 a/r, but that would require a one off build from them. I dont have that kind of funds nor knowledge to get that specific. I plan to run this turbo with a v-mount set up for instant response.