really interested in getting a set of these for my fc but never heard any feedback on the quality on overall performance of them... so i wanna get some info on them before i make the purchase... thanks in advance to all that have some info

 

ive heard good things about them. a buddy of mine has them here on a sc lexus and he like them.

i havent used them myself so cant give you much more info other than that. im planning on upgrading from my tein he's to those.

 

Pros: Price, Can go extremely low, good for drifting, quality is good (but you get what you pay for),

Cons: Made in Taiwan, EXTREMELY STIFF, adjustability is very limited for road racing and daily driving.

If you want a coilover to go low and just drift till your wheels fall off, then it's the right coilover for you. If you want adjustability, drivability, and a race/track coilover...you need to spend more and get something well engineered.

 

they're not that stiff once you get used to them, i drive my car 4 out of 7 days a week and on full soft dont even notice the stiffness, however he has a point, they are not adjustable enough to where i would autocross or road race on them but if all you plan on doing is drifting then you'll love them. Being basically one of the people who knew the shop owners before they even open parts shop max USA me and all my friends run them, Matt Powers who is now a Formula D licensed driver has been on them for years, tommy roberts who is right up there with matt powers has been on them for years also, they both drive events more than anyone ive known and they still love em.

In the end its your decision, I stand by the coils as being great for drifting but I have no idea how they would do during road racing and autocross

 

what?
show me a coilover with more adjustability.

pbm has spring preload, dampening, caster, camber, and ride height adjustability. you cam even buy softer springs.

 

It's about the range of adjustability not how many times you can do it. I guarantee you, the PBM Coilover does not have the RANGE a race coilover has mean't for road racing. And I guarantee you, a good race coilover can handle drifting just fine.

I know because i have a friend with an S13 who threw the PBM catalogue at it. I am not knocking their parts in any way. I ride in his car very frequently and even on the softest setting it will rattle your teeth out (at least in california). It's an awesome drift and go low coilover, it does not have the engineering, and adjustability to perform in a race environment or offer an extremely supple ride on the street.

The features you listed are all something any basic coilover should have. Most "Racing" coilovers have a laundry list of features on top of that including high speed rebound adjustment, low speed rebound adjustment, non-preloaded stack valves, blow off valve systems (yes for a coilover, to not jar you on large impacts), separate bump and rebound adjustments, etc.etc.. Each manufacturer is different.

 

buy a mouth guard lol, full soft isn't that bad

 

He did list "overall performance".

He didn't say "overall drifting performance" but then again, he did post this in the DRIFTING section so he's implicating that he's using them for drifting.

I only hear negative feedback from people who've never used them or hate drifting.

I got bagged on at one forum for wanting to buy a set of third hand jic's for $550 because "asians can't valve shocks properly" then got pointed in the "right direction" of Running ohlins/koni shocks with gc coilovers and camber plates....a setup that would have cost me WELL OVER $1400 and was MORE than i really needed for a daily driver that i can swing when i want to. Now, this is just an example telling you how people are. Not saying you should skimp. I'm saying you should buy something that does what you want it to. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

i daily drive my fc with pbm coils at least 5 days out of the week. they are great drifting coilovers but they are over dampened for gripping. i've done a few events at streets of willow and they arent the best for gripping. if i had a choice to go back i would get a different brand of coilovers for gripping but if i only drifted (which i dont I GRIP TOO) id buy these again. the ride in the street is just bouncy but i like it.

 

thank you for all your input its really helped my choice... im not concerned about how well they perform on a road course its my street/drift car... and as far as ride comfort on the street i dont care havent driven a car on anything close to standard suspension in a long time i was just curious cause its my first fc and pbm seems to make quality parts for a reasonable price... so thanks again for all the input

 

how much do they cost for the fc?

 

right around 1g

 

suspension with those features probably cost 3-4 times of his car, and if he was looking for that level coil, he wouldnt be inquiring about pbm coils.

 

$1050 shipped i think

 

talked to dan yesterday, they're currently out of stock for a few weeks, ill post up when they come in so everyone knows