To the people who have welded there diffs
08-22-08 | 08:34 PM
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Never tried a welded diff, been running my stock 88' GTU Diff since I've had the car. Only about 50k miles on the car, assuming my diff is good. If not, I'm gonna rebuild it if I need to and then save up for a KAAZ. Been running on stock suspension, and just got some DTSS elims and Stance GR+. Never chopped the springs, just ran it how it was. I knew I was doing shitty but I was having fun. So instead of wasting my cash I just saved up and did it right... 18 and a high school senior with a SMALL part time job.
08-24-08 | 04:59 PM
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So I have been drifting in my n/a vert for a year now just found out I dont have lsd. I'm woundering how its going to be when I do get an lsd, and I'm assuming im going to have to re-learn how to drift. I have been thinking about welding my diff until I get the S5 TII rear end.
08-24-08 | 05:59 PM
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So I have been drifting in my n/a vert for a year now just found out I dont have lsd. I'm woundering how its going to be when I do get an lsd, and I'm assuming im going to have to re-learn how to drift. I have been thinking about welding my diff until I get the S5 TII rear end.
As far as throttle goes with an open I found I was heavy on the gas all the time trying to make or keep some angle. I really was not worrying about throttle control because it was either all in or all out. When I switched I tried going full bore and it was a lil weird, I am not to sure how to describe it. The car felt more stable in partial throttle than it did at full I guess is how to explain it.
Say it went like this.
Your at full throttle
You brake
brake, turn in
full throttle
Well the car would start to slide (good) but then it would not go where I wanted it, or I would spin out because the tire speed was to much and I did not have enough traction in the rear to push my self along because of it. I learned to turin, full throttle and then let off after the rear tires broke lose, but not enough to where they stopped spinning, just enough to have enough traction to push the car along. Sorry if that doesn't make much sense.
08-24-08 | 09:47 PM
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dood have it welded, but make sure u have the welder weld all the spider gears together and spider gears to the casing of the diff, and spider gears to the center shaft...Its guna be so ez to kick out compared to open diff. and everything will be very predictable when you drift
08-25-08 | 12:24 PM
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Here's one way to lock up wiscous.
http://forum.vastaheitto.com/index.php?topic=214.60
Just scroll down the page
Site is in Finnish, but there are lots of pics.
Only one of my friends have managed to broke this way locked wiscous,
the car is named "Skydillac" its r33 with cadillac 6,0L v8 + vortec supercharger...
Quite a smoke machine
http://forum.vastaheitto.com/index.php?topic=214.60
Just scroll down the page
Site is in Finnish, but there are lots of pics.
Only one of my friends have managed to broke this way locked wiscous,
the car is named "Skydillac" its r33 with cadillac 6,0L v8 + vortec supercharger...
Quite a smoke machine
08-25-08 | 05:40 PM
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Man I know how it is. Back then I did w/e it takes to get lower, I cut the springs then found ut itwas too soft, so I had anotehr set of springs I heated and it was okay, I still drove it in the canyons. It lasted for a year, on shock in the rear blew. I still dailyed it . So months later I saved up for some used tein ha coilovers from my delievery job i was only 17. So then I eventualy I saved up for a $300 lsd, I didnt know it was viscous, but I started drifting with it . It was hard to learn with viscous, but eventualy I got the hang of it and learned off it w/o powersteering. Then Iwanted a paint job, but couldnt even aford a oneday paint. SO I found onrx7 club [$50 paint job on a budget] rollered my whole car black, itwas BADASS.. The point is you dont need to spend alot of money to do what you want, there are ways. I justwent with the budget car setup. Then one of my freinds from AZ came bace and he showed me his drifting, and I was blasted away, he initaed soo early and kicked out w/o much effort. I asked him how come its so easy for you, he said welded diff ! I drove his s13, and man I was in love. Powersteering and a/c it was LUX. He dailys his s13 in AZ and in socal deleiverying pizza. All it has is KYB struts.Drive it to az from socal back and forth. Hes had the same diff for 3 years and he would smash on his car in a empty lot for hours and hours going through over 30 sets of tires. That diff is still going. What im trying to say is it just depends on how you work on it, you dont need to spend $$$ like nuts to drift.
I just went with the budget setup. Until Ican make more money I guess l invest in a legit 2way. Its just at the moment , I have no job, im in college, its hard, and I have a extra open diff laying around you know, why not weld it , its free.
I notcied some of the best drivers came from welded, and still even some d1 drivers use welded. Most drifters here uses welded in their s13s or s14s in events, some guy sdaily it. Its just most welded guy dontsay anything because tehy dontwant to be bagged on. and all the ppls that diffs blew would spread the word. So ppl are over exaggerating about welded setups.
I just went with the budget setup. Until Ican make more money I guess l invest in a legit 2way. Its just at the moment , I have no job, im in college, its hard, and I have a extra open diff laying around you know, why not weld it , its free.
I notcied some of the best drivers came from welded, and still even some d1 drivers use welded. Most drifters here uses welded in their s13s or s14s in events, some guy sdaily it. Its just most welded guy dontsay anything because tehy dontwant to be bagged on. and all the ppls that diffs blew would spread the word. So ppl are over exaggerating about welded setups.
But since I know what both feel like, and how long they can, or dont last, Ill throw in my .02
I have a friend that still runs a s13 240, with a welded diff, and drives it daily. Runs fine, chirps like a bitch though, when hes trying to park.
I also know a guy that runs a chevelle down the strip every now and again, that twisted an axle in half and ran his car into the wall since it was welded up. Im not saying that an LSD would have saved his car...but it would have had a better chance than a detroit or a lincoln locker.
I have driven my RX with a clutch style in it, and its nice, tight, locks everything up when you slide.
I have also driven my RX with a newly rebuilt clutch style in it that acts like a locker. So much nicer. It still spins the inside tire a bit parking, but around the street, its nice, but very tight. Its got about 200 ftlbs of breakaway torque. Add some Toyo R888's and...
08-26-08 | 12:21 AM
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Agreed that the axle breaking was a major component, but it snapped close to the diff...I am wondering if it was fatigued from the welding.
Either way, it wasnt pretty and his car needed lotsa new parts.
Either way, it wasnt pretty and his car needed lotsa new parts.
08-26-08 | 03:19 AM
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If meant the skyline, here is link to build tread
http://forum.vastaheitto.com/index.php?topic=2178.0
There is some pics, including the dyno chart...
And link to tube, video from last sunday...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSRV-rGNhqU
08-27-08 | 10:41 AM
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Nobody is arguing that a welded diff is FASTER, its an obvious point that it isn't otherwise everyone would be running one in SCCA already! People in this thread do drifting and the point is if you're on a budget and cannot afford a 1.5 or 2way then a welded diff works better than other options for DRIFTING.
08-27-08 | 07:42 PM
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Nobody is arguing that a welded diff is FASTER, its an obvious point that it isn't otherwise everyone would be running one in SCCA already! People in this thread do drifting and the point is if you're on a budget and cannot afford a 1.5 or 2way then a welded diff works better than other options for DRIFTING.
08-27-08 | 07:55 PM
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Its easier to get more angle with a longer chassis such as the s, and they also have more steering angle stock, and a better rear suspension set up.
Maybe I am getting to old to compete. That much angle and smoke is fun and all but its not the same as it used to be with less angle more carry speed and longer runs, those were the days, oh well who says you cant teach and old dog new tricks.
Maybe I am getting to old to compete. That much angle and smoke is fun and all but its not the same as it used to be with less angle more carry speed and longer runs, those were the days, oh well who says you cant teach and old dog new tricks.
08-27-08 | 07:56 PM
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yeah, its all about more angle, were tryin to keep up with the S14's and other S bodies. The other day i was riding in my buddies S14 and he'd get more than 90*in that beyatch and be pourin smoke out. thats where spindle mods and 100% locked diffs come in handy. far as i know if i get ahold of an S5 viscous im going to weld it like those Finnish dudes!
08-28-08 | 01:35 AM
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yeah, its all about more angle, were tryin to keep up with the S14's and other S bodies. The other day i was riding in my buddies S14 and he'd get more than 90*in that beyatch and be pourin smoke out. thats where spindle mods and 100% locked diffs come in handy. far as i know if i get ahold of an S5 viscous im going to weld it like those Finnish dudes!
08-28-08 | 01:39 AM
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08-28-08 | 03:08 AM
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08-28-08 | 10:43 AM
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08-28-08 | 07:24 PM
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