Could you post up a video or anything so we could watch? Its hard to tell what your problem is from just plan text.

I assume by "whip around" you mean spin? If your spinning, the solution could be less throttle, earlier counter, etc.. and if your having a problem staying in a drift, just floor it, control the angle and line with steering.

Ive been practicing 2nd gear clutch kick initiations (accelerating to around 40 or so) in my stock'ish (lowering springs) GTUs recently, and dont have any problems maintaining constant radius higher speed circles (into transitions too if I feel like it.) I really could benifit from a bucket though, my stock seats bolsters are all flat, ugh.

i was talking about that feeling you get with DTSS. basically having trouble with larger radius action. ive got 1st gear donuts and figure 8's down to about 15-25 feet, as far as you can go, but 2nd gear is just.. not there

You mean the feeling of DTSS under turn in or while sliding? I thought I recalled reading that you have eliminators?

What do you mean 2nd gear is just not there? I dont think its a problem with your set up, but a driving error, could you break down exactly what you are doing and how the car is reacting? I think thats the closest anyone on the forum is going to be able to help you, short of actually riding with you.

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Edit~ I just looked back and read that you are running 225s? Any particular reason for that? I havent driven on anything but 205s in my personal car, but id think the use of anything wider would seriously inhibit any potential sliding.

bah, quote confusion. nevermind that, was trying to explain what i meant in another post :wallbash:

i do have dtss eliminators. running 225's because im on 17" wheels. although im going to be using 215's by next event, after talking to the tire shop.

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say im going to do a 90* corner, like an intersection (one way roads in the middle of the night, no traffic).

gas in 1st, shift around 6k, gas in 2nd. as i approach the corner, light brake, turn, clutch kick, gas, more gas, straighten out. and what i try to do when drifting a 90* turn, is just slide around the corner, then switch back and keep a manji going. but i cant even switch back really, because the car bogs down.

wow you can't edit your posts after 30 minutes?

here's a quick random video i found on youtube while browsing drift vids, the first drift you see in the video is what is happening to me. i can start it, but you can hear he's on the throttle and he just straightens. i was watching another underpowered car in another video and should i maybe try multiple clutch kicks?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIGhC...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQDj68heho8

It looks like Tsuchiya applies heavy breaking to transfer the weight to the front while the clutch is in (heel toe) and then engages the clutch at the right time and manipulates throttle from there. Try going faster then normal and then breaking heavily to transfer the weight.

that's an infini, so he has a torsen diff huh?

I wish I had an Infini model.....

well from what I "feel" when I am trying to drift......the rear toe/steer eliminator (that i don't have) has a lot to do with making drifting hard in a semi stock FC.... I have a 1990 w/ stock LSD and every time i try to initiate a drift, the car wants to whip back straight and not stay sidewayz....an BTW a_drift....that vid was kewl...

Rofl hell yeah on that one. The number of times that has happened to me...rediculous. It lurches you forward violently w/out a full tank.

last event i started my day out on like a quarter tank.. after like 3 runs it started bogging halfway through left handed drifts.. it sucked. it was like hitting a brick wall, the power just stopped and the rpm's dropped until i straightened out.

just get better, their is no way people will help you drift better over the web. If you have friends that are better then you get them to go in the car with you, if not just keep trying diffrent things. Drifting is very small where i live and when i started i was the only person around doing it, so all i did was watch in car views on youtube and see what guys were doing, then tryed it. If your spining your goin to much gas or not turning in fast enough, if your not holding a drift your turning in to fast or not clutch kicking enough. Thats all you need to know, now get off the comp and go drift!!


-end of rant (im drunk as fuck, sorry if it doesnt make sence)

Yeah, as a result, I'm looking into the dual fuel pump system and how to install...anyone have a point to some sort of a tut.?

Iv got one
Dont Run lower then a 1/4 tank :wallbash: :)

Your fuel sock is dirty or gas tank baffles are rusted out.

You sure? The sock is almost new, and I doubt the baffles could've rusted...Maybe they have...
Are you sure it's not just the fact that when that happens I'm running on 1/8th a tank and attempting to turn my car sideways at high velocity? Thereby sloshing my fuel away from the pump?

Well in your original post you said without a full tank which would lead someone to assume 3/4 or less, not that you were out of gas. You would blow a turbo engine driving like that.

Well aware, actually. You'll notice I drive an NA. Anywho, I don't usually drive on less than half.

Exactly my n/a fc drifts fine. the power of a turbo will definately make initiation easier but i drift in an n/a fc and i do great. im sure if that guy or anyone else having problem knew how to drive and build a drift car theyd be fine.

In my own opinion N/A drifting is a tad bit harder considering you are using more technique than stomping the fuck out of the gas on turn 3 of your local track. N/A is a good way to start drifting to intial yourself to move onwards when you size up on your motor. Not to mention japan doesn't have N/A :p

i dont think na is harder. just different. instead of trying to figure out how to keep momentum up you have to pay attention to throttle more and worry about turbo lag. if your turbo comes online too suddenly mid drift you will spin or understeer. just different.

Do you guys dd you n/a cars?

How do they hold up after an aggressive day of sliding?

What do you prefer for cooling?

Let's see I didn't feel like reading the last 7 pages, so I guess I'll say something real short.

Lonetlan: I drift my daily driver but it's not a good idea, because of all the hard driving your puting on the car and the engine. Plus if you crash at the track that's your ride home.

The N/A is a good platfourm to start drifting from, being it has low horse power and it's important to start low and build yourself up control wise.

My first Fc was a red base model and all I had was 17"s and street coilovers so learing how to kick it loose then hold it was important to me.

did you keep you stock diff mount or remove it completely because that is truely the only thing i am having trouble with right now?

In my avatar thoose are the buckets I got helps a gang load!!

I think my tach is reading wrong so I'm underpowering turns that try to break loose..

Also I agree with every one who says na drifting is about driver skill its a good starter car .. Get used to its limits then mod its when you feel your skills have improved..