It's not that hard to get an NA sideways... it IS hard to keep it from going waaay too sideways.

The first mods for a drift FC (bare minimum, assuming your suspension is in good condition): DTTS eliminator > steering wheel + spacer > full bucket seat.

Of course, you'll also probably find yourself running out of steering angle (and talent), so getting some spacers on the rods might help.

 

ahh i need to get my fc running... lol you guys have no idea how bad i wanna go sideways.... only thing is, i might be losing my license soon(******* speeding traps) so i dono how much longer i have to drive.

but ill be learing some things soon...hehe(buddy is getting a bmw)

 

I have a NA Half-bridged individual throttle body and I have spent all most over a year getting my car running. So i can go side ways . Just a couple more weeks. So that i can get it tune then it straight to getting it sideways.

 

What's so good about TEIN?

 

theres nothing good about them TEIN are only good for show! get k-sport theyre much more affordable and performs well too! if you have the money then go with the kei-office you can never go wrong with the drift king!!! but seriously the guy with the GTU its not like monroe is a competition you should go out there do what you can do and you should decide from there what mods you need for your car! oh and I say screw the e-brake unless your hitting a really sharp hairspin turn and i know they dont have that in monroe lol

 

k-sport are made in China whereas TEIN have a warranty... hmm, hard choice.

I ended up doing a bit of drifting (semi-accidental, semi on purpose) at an autocross event today since it was raining a bit... man, drifting is so much different with a bucket seat!

I mean, it was freaking impossible to really drift properly at my first event, but now I can do it almost half-ok just by getting a new seat (and without a harness, too).

 

 

So.. I thought TEIN Coilovers were pretty nice.. am I wrong??

 

No, you're not... there are better products out there, but they apparently make really good products for the street, especially since they have the best service of all the brands, and the best presence in the states.

You can always get STANCE products, but only TEIN offers things like electronically adjustable dampers, if that's your thing.

 

What do you guys think about welding an open diff for drifting? I'm always on a budget.

 

I'm going with stance GR+ on my car.

For drifting, i wouldnt imagine that welding the diff would be bad, however, i'm not an expert on drifting by any means.

 

Yeah, it should actually work fine... the real question is how does a welded diff do on the street.

 

click click click.....something like that?

 

Tons of understeer? I know when I had a welded diff on my jeep, it wanted to push straight ahead even with the wheels turned in rain/snow. was really dangerous. but offroad, it kicked butt. So, if you want a rock crawling RX-7... I'd say go for it.

 

Lol, I was riding in the back of Alex Pfeiffer's 180SX between the pits and the track during Nopi drift event last week (dont ask), and every turn he made the whole rear end was going click click click. I figured that's what it was but didn't wanna sound stupid if I was wrong.

 

That sounds more like autolockers.. a ratcheting diff that auto locks in a straight line... soon as you drag a tire, it clicks.

 

welded is fine

 

I already put this on the race car tech section, but propably drifting isn't racing

Not only for N/A but what kind of suspension set-ups you have made for your FC's to make it a proper drifter? I had D1SL attended Nissan Silvia this season but one bastard bought it off me so now I'm building next weapon out of FC TII I already have.

I have done some 60-80 laps with that almost stock one (upgraded boost, HKS suspension and some strut tower bars) and couple of notices are front tires that clearly don't turn at all (maybe some 20-30 degrees less than my Silvia) and weight shifts are HUGE because of that ridiculous rear stabilizer.

So I'm planning to have thicker rear stabilizer and change every bushing to pillow joints (strictly race car so won't matter if it's HARD) and have some firmer coils on the back.

But the front axle is the big question mark here so I would really like to know if somebody have done some mods for the front linkages. I have pictures from couple of D1SL cars form Japan but problem is that they are for sale and I'm almost sure that Japanese strip all the good parts off before putting their race cars up for sale so those cars have stock lower arms on the front.

Plan is to make a new lower arm bringing front wheel out some 25-30mm and then have a modified steering gear to have more turn angle and to fix the ackerman steering. What else should I be looking at?

 

Actually Cusco also has same kind of function than TEIN EDFC on their Zero-2E suspension system. And if you look at Japanese drift or time attack scene you can't see anybody racing on the Tein products. Cusco and HKS are only well known "street brands" that you can see on the track, otherwise they are using higher level products like DG5, Zeal or Ohlins.

 

/\ The other thing I forgot to mention.

 

Kazama makes tie rods that help with the whole steering angle thing.

 

I still maintain that you don't need any mods to slide. Learn while the car is stock, then mod when you've outgrown the abilities of the car. Not the other way around.

 

i learned how to drift a 93 caviler yeah its like 90hp and fwd
so i think an NA should be fine right?

Im just learning about FCs and from what ive read, suspension was the most important thing???

in order of importance i thought it was like

• suspension
• TII swap
• bucket seats/steering wheel

no?

 

1: you can't drift a FWD car, if the rear wheels are not powering your car, then its not drifting.

2: In order of importance
a)seat time
b)seat time
c)seat time

Ive been drifting my NA FC for about a year and a half now, minor suspension upgrades, minor NA bolt ons, nothing special. I've finally out grown the limitations of my current setup, so I'm doing a turbo swap and buying a full coilover setup, and doing a lot to the suspension. DTSS eliminators will be going on after the coilovers then a steering angle kit. After that I'll see how things go before I buy anything else.

 

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seat/wheel
suspension
LSD