how do you get on an RX7 forum and no drift thread?
11-26-07, 10:43 AM
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11-26-07, 11:30 AM
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LOL^ IMO i got sick of drifting from bieng on the 240sx forums right there is a bunch of hippie drifters....i would recall the amount of threads i encountered to just about anything on drifting set ups and "style"...uhh it was discusting to my taste...i like it more here at the rx7club because its all about grip...
11-26-07, 02:07 PM
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lol calling people who race "grip racers" shows how stupid you are. Go play some NFS and set your tires for drift 
honestly, how can you say "grip" anything and think that's okay. It's hillarious and ridiculous. Go back to school, get a ******* degree, start a family and get a career. Give up on this drift vs "grip" nonsense, because your third grade education won't carry you forever.
For the record, I do like NFS
I never complete the drift events though.
honestly, how can you say "grip" anything and think that's okay. It's hillarious and ridiculous. Go back to school, get a ******* degree, start a family and get a career. Give up on this drift vs "grip" nonsense, because your third grade education won't carry you forever.
For the record, I do like NFS
I never complete the drift events though.
11-26-07, 03:22 PM
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We only bash it because they actually created the thread in the "race techniques" section. Funny, since I don't recall seeing a clock in competitive drifting.
Put it in sections like Gen specific, or rotary performance, I don't think I'd have as much of a problem with it.
Most people don't realize that drifting is a race technique, albeit an outdated one. All the drift fans that come in to post would never understand in what circumstances drifting is faster than gripping, and because of that, I assume that any drift thread usually isn't about racing. And I haven't been wrong yet.
Put it in sections like Gen specific, or rotary performance, I don't think I'd have as much of a problem with it.
Most people don't realize that drifting is a race technique, albeit an outdated one. All the drift fans that come in to post would never understand in what circumstances drifting is faster than gripping, and because of that, I assume that any drift thread usually isn't about racing. And I haven't been wrong yet.
11-26-07, 08:11 PM
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since when is breaking traction hard? i personally battle with it everyday.
the hard part is keeping optimal traction.
think long and hard about this, and the queer in drifting shines like a beacon. maybe it's because I grew up in the country with winter and dirt roads. My ******* mother can drift at 60mph due to inclimate weather or dirt roads. (edit, but there is no way in hell my mother could get my measely 300hp fc to 60mph in under 8 seconds...in the best weather) Inclimate weather makes you a drifter. There is no naturally occurring phenom that will make you a road racer, auto crosser, or drag racer.
the hard part is keeping optimal traction.
think long and hard about this, and the queer in drifting shines like a beacon. maybe it's because I grew up in the country with winter and dirt roads. My ******* mother can drift at 60mph due to inclimate weather or dirt roads. (edit, but there is no way in hell my mother could get my measely 300hp fc to 60mph in under 8 seconds...in the best weather) Inclimate weather makes you a drifter. There is no naturally occurring phenom that will make you a road racer, auto crosser, or drag racer.
11-26-07, 08:45 PM
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lol calling people who race "grip racers" shows how stupid you are. Go play some NFS and set your tires for drift
honestly, how can you say "grip" anything and think that's okay. It's hillarious and ridiculous. Go back to school, get a ******* degree, start a family and get a career. Give up on this drift vs "grip" nonsense, because your third grade education won't carry you forever.
For the record, I do like NFS I never complete the drift events though.
honestly, how can you say "grip" anything and think that's okay. It's hillarious and ridiculous. Go back to school, get a ******* degree, start a family and get a career. Give up on this drift vs "grip" nonsense, because your third grade education won't carry you forever.
For the record, I do like NFS
I never complete the drift events though.Also, I'm in school, earning my degree, and living life much happier than I'm sure you are. I mean come on, you're sitting here trying to make yourself feel better because you apparently graduated school and have a family? woo, ***** and giggles, I bow down to you now... along with the rest of the world.
Also, I don't think you can get ******* degrees. To my knowledge, you can earn a degree, or several, but not a ******* degree.
Ego maniac racer thread ftw woo.
11-26-07, 08:47 PM
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11-27-07, 12:45 AM
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). / story, /arguement.
11-27-07, 09:28 AM
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I wouldn't say any corner........most yes........but I bet you if I could line up with you on the outside at an S-turn that tightens midway coming up to a heavy braking match, i could use the higher entrance speed of drifting to block you on the first turn, and use my position now on the inside to pass. Though, if I get bumped while sliding, I'm probably going off track.
11-27-07, 02:57 PM
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I wouldn't say any corner........most yes........but I bet you if I could line up with you on the outside at an S-turn that tightens midway coming up to a heavy braking match, i could use the higher entrance speed of drifting to block you on the first turn, and use my position now on the inside to pass. Though, if I get bumped while sliding, I'm probably going off track.
11-27-07, 03:35 PM
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We only bash it because they actually created the thread in the "race techniques" section. Funny, since I don't recall seeing a clock in competitive drifting.
Put it in sections like Gen specific, or rotary performance, I don't think I'd have as much of a problem with it.
Most people don't realize that drifting is a race technique, albeit an outdated one. All the drift fans that come in to post would never understand in what circumstances drifting is faster than gripping, and because of that, I assume that any drift thread usually isn't about racing. And I haven't been wrong yet.
Put it in sections like Gen specific, or rotary performance, I don't think I'd have as much of a problem with it.
Most people don't realize that drifting is a race technique, albeit an outdated one. All the drift fans that come in to post would never understand in what circumstances drifting is faster than gripping, and because of that, I assume that any drift thread usually isn't about racing. And I haven't been wrong yet.
Best post in the thread. I have no real problem with drifting (do wish people wouldn't take a rare purpose built sports car to do it though
) but it's surely not my cup of tea. It does take great amounts of skill and is fun to watch (though for no more than a few minutes for me). I think any comparison between drifting (aka sliding which is a far more accurate name since race drivers have been drifting for years) and rally racing is simply insane though. Rally racing is NOT about drifting to the fastest time, it's about the samething road racing is about. It's a grip sport in which a very small amount of time sliding just so happens to be the easiest/quicker way around a corner. These drivers (greatest in the world by far) only really learned to slide around because they had to learn to save themselves a million times or die period. If it wasn't for pushing the envelope and learning what the car will do when taken too far they not one would've ever been seen sliding at all.Of course this is all my humble opinion (feel free to throw rocks). If you want to drift, then go for it (find somewhere safe like the rest of us) but remember this isn't a drift site so views are not likely to be in your favor. I'm sure there are a bunch of forums out there devoted to this, but the race section of a dedicated RX-7 club is surely not one of them.
Why not post your question to one of the mods or in the lounge or general automotive?
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11-27-07, 03:39 PM
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Btw, I think all drifters should be given Z33 Fairlady's to drift in as they come in packs of twelve.
Save the 7...you're surely going to wreck so why do it in something you can't buy again? What's next drifting in Ferrari Enzo's...wait people have already wrecked a few of those too.
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Save the 7...you're surely going to wreck so why do it in something you can't buy again? What's next drifting in Ferrari Enzo's...wait people have already wrecked a few of those too.
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11-27-07, 05:19 PM
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I'm not into the whole bumping thing, not yet skilled enough to do it and not waste my car as well, but in an S curve higher entry speed into a slide means your line will be less than optimal and you'll need to switch back to grip if this is more than just two curves. To do that you need A.) lots of torque, B.) lots of luck, C.) me to fall asleep at the wheel. The minute I see you slide deeper in than me I take an early apex hugging the inside and set up to pass on the outside for #2 and maintain the inside on #3. Easy? No. Does it pay off? Yes.
11-27-07, 05:45 PM
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Specifically, why I mentioned the whole 2nd curve tightening up. As soon as I get a nose in front of you, I believe that gives me control of the rest of the S-turn complex, assuming I do it right. I would be switching back to grip on turn 2 regardless, since the drift into turn 1 is for blocking purposes only, taking the statement "making your car as wide as possible" literally. The drift in this case would just be going in hotter than you are, and trail-braking for the oversteer, correcting with just the throttle, and minimal counter-steer, if any, to minimize speed being scrubbed off. I'm only trying to show that there are situations, like you said, very very very rare situations, where knowing how to drift does pay off. I just don't like it when people say there is no situation where drifting gives you an advantage. I'm not the biggest fan of absolute statements, unless of course they can be proven without a doubt.
At this point Roen, I'm not trying to step on any toes, I just don't understand. Every way I look at , the drift into an S curve would give you a pass for turn #1, but would leave you wide open for an easy over take on turn #2 if the guy you passed is somewhat competent. Without the ability to swing from the outside and carefully choose your apex, how can the drift be better?
