how do you get on an RX7 forum and no drift thread?
10-26-07, 12:00 AM
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I drift in order to have more control over my 7 in the event of an accident.learn throttle control, weight shift, and the dynamics of your car to save it. Drifting wont help, sorry if this makes you cry and you dont need a lot of power to drift at all its a myththen why do all teh pros roll with 350+, my friend ian showed me you can drift anything. By drifting in his workswerks, workz, verx, wait what...? parking lot w/o permission from his boss, with a ******* egg. you dont need power to drift u just need the skill and ability to do itrefer back to what I just said. you are right drifting is not a sport, its more of an art.To be able to make a car dance on asphalt takes more skill and cordination then ANY MOTOR SPORT out there. also Rallipretty sure that a Y there. I could be wrong, I'm not used to the way Yeti's spell drivers use drifting to get a faster time so dont say they will go SLOWER THEN YOU AROUND A CORNER THEY DONT.They'll go faster than me due the larger budget, better driver, and better set up car, NOT because they are drifting drifting around a corner IS faster then grip driving if you have THE SKILLThat is the STUPIDEST thing I've ever heard. Tell that to MotoGP, JGTC, F-1, and World Super Bike!. drag racing is nothing more then a straight line, Nascar is a left circle at 200mphFinally we agree on something the only types of racing i watch are Indy, Rally, Gran touring, JGTC, Cart. there is a chance to crash as in all sports but there are safety rules that apply and that you have to go by. most people who think drifting is not good are people who are AFRAID to get there cars sidewaysI think Roen had the answer for this, and when they do they get even more scared and under correct or over correct. if you drift and practice at the track you would know how to get out of it wouldn't you? drifting is a big help in street drivingI think Phoenix answered this
. its stupid to crit somthing you dont know anything aboutBecause drifting HASN"T been thrown in everyone's face since the ID craze of 2003, you have become the foremost commentator on this life changing phenomenon. i think there should be a sub forum so the people who do drift legally can get together and give one another tips specs and just hang out is that hard to ask???
. its stupid to crit somthing you dont know anything aboutBecause drifting HASN"T been thrown in everyone's face since the ID craze of 2003, you have become the foremost commentator on this life changing phenomenon. i think there should be a sub forum so the people who do drift legally can get together and give one another tips specs and just hang out is that hard to ask???
10-26-07, 12:02 AM
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https://www.rx7club.com/race-car-tech-103/heel-toe-necessary-rotary-405075/page3/
Read my posts on the history of drifting, and when to use and not use drift.
I drift my car. Do I fool myself to think it's the faster way around a corner nowadays? No. Do I think it's a waste of rubber? Yes. Do I think it's fun? Yes.
In all honesty, I would rather save my rubber for wheel-to-wheel or even just lapping days.
Umm......that's just blatantly untrue. When you actually get wheel-to-wheel with someone and attempt to pass him while protecting your place from someone else trying to divebomb you as you're running out of grip from your tires.....then talk to me about skill and coordination. Seriously, there are many ways to induce a drift, I prefer weight-shifting my car a variety of ways to get the rear out. However, once you learn how to sustain a drift, and pivot for the next one, it's just the same thing over and over and over again.
Now, working on a zero-countersteer drift and trying to do it fast? That's fun....and takes some ***** too. I still haven't been able to get it.
Read my posts on the history of drifting, and when to use and not use drift.
I drift my car. Do I fool myself to think it's the faster way around a corner nowadays? No. Do I think it's a waste of rubber? Yes. Do I think it's fun? Yes.
In all honesty, I would rather save my rubber for wheel-to-wheel or even just lapping days.
Umm......that's just blatantly untrue. When you actually get wheel-to-wheel with someone and attempt to pass him while protecting your place from someone else trying to divebomb you as you're running out of grip from your tires.....then talk to me about skill and coordination. Seriously, there are many ways to induce a drift, I prefer weight-shifting my car a variety of ways to get the rear out. However, once you learn how to sustain a drift, and pivot for the next one, it's just the same thing over and over and over again.
Now, working on a zero-countersteer drift and trying to do it fast? That's fun....and takes some ***** too. I still haven't been able to get it.
I'm on a roll bitches
10-26-07, 05:24 AM
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ok let me rephrase some of what i said- 1 I drift in order to have more control over my 7 to keep in accident from happening. 2 then why do all the pros roll with 350+? because they want their car set up that way thats why . 3 like i said you dont need a lot of power to drift just the know how to get the car sidways and keep it there. 4 Ralli is the way mitsu spells it so thats what i am used to , it can be spelled either way.
just because you guys dont think its fun or its a waste time doesnt mean that its not for a lot of people. In the history of drifting WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT INITIAL D as of the stages? i also drift to see the limits of my abilities and the capablities of my 7. I want to get into racing but the resources for racing out here in az a very small, drifting is my way out.
just because you guys dont think its fun or its a waste time doesnt mean that its not for a lot of people. In the history of drifting WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT INITIAL D as of the stages? i also drift to see the limits of my abilities and the capablities of my 7. I want to get into racing but the resources for racing out here in az a very small, drifting is my way out.
10-26-07, 05:48 AM
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Geez...I didn't expect to see this thread still raging. Sorry to leave you hanging, dial8.
1: How old are you to be so niave as to think that drifting helps you control your car better? You like to drift? that's swell. It's not viable for anything other than wasting tires and having fun. Don't delude yourself to thinking that it's helping you become a better drive, because it's not. That mentality is making you a more dangerous driver.
2: The "pros" (lol at calling someone who competes in a non-professional sport a pro) would run whatever is most effective for what they are trying to achieve. Not whatever they "feel like"
4: The T in STi stands for Teknica... How a car company spells something is marking and nothing more. http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/Ralli
If you live in AZ and there are no race tracks near you, where the hell do you drift? On the street? Smart....
Besides that, there are so many race tracks in California that it's not even funny. Make the road trip and take it to a track.
ok let me rephrase some of what i said- 1 I drift in order to have more control over my 7 to keep in accident from happening. 2 then why do all the pros roll with 350+? because they want their car set up that way thats why . 3 like i said you dont need a lot of power to drift just the know how to get the car sidways and keep it there. 4 Ralli is the way mitsu spells it so thats what i am used to , it can be spelled either way.
just because you guys dont think its fun or its a waste time doesnt mean that its not for a lot of people. In the history of drifting WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT INITIAL D as of the stages? i also drift to see the limits of my abilities and the capablities of my 7. I want to get into racing but the resources for racing out here in az a very small, drifting is my way out.
just because you guys dont think its fun or its a waste time doesnt mean that its not for a lot of people. In the history of drifting WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT INITIAL D as of the stages? i also drift to see the limits of my abilities and the capablities of my 7. I want to get into racing but the resources for racing out here in az a very small, drifting is my way out.
2: The "pros" (lol at calling someone who competes in a non-professional sport a pro) would run whatever is most effective for what they are trying to achieve. Not whatever they "feel like"
4: The T in STi stands for Teknica... How a car company spells something is marking and nothing more. http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/Ralli
If you live in AZ and there are no race tracks near you, where the hell do you drift? On the street? Smart....
Besides that, there are so many race tracks in California that it's not even funny. Make the road trip and take it to a track.
10-26-07, 06:46 AM
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ok let me rephrase some of what i said- 1 I drift in order to have more control over my 7 to keep in accident from happening. 2 then why do all the pros roll with 350+? because they want their car set up that way thats why . 3 like i said you dont need a lot of power to drift just the know how to get the car sidways and keep it there. 4 Ralli is the way mitsu spells it so thats what i am used to , it can be spelled either way.
just because you guys dont think its fun or its a waste time doesnt mean that its not for a lot of people. In the history of drifting WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT INITIAL D as of the stages? i also drift to see the limits of my abilities and the capablities of my 7. I want to get into racing but the resources for racing out here in az a very small, drifting is my way out.
just because you guys dont think its fun or its a waste time doesnt mean that its not for a lot of people. In the history of drifting WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT INITIAL D as of the stages? i also drift to see the limits of my abilities and the capablities of my 7. I want to get into racing but the resources for racing out here in az a very small, drifting is my way out.
I made references Initial D in my post, but that was in response to something else. Focus on the prevalence of drifting in the past and why it's not necessary anymore in my post on the other thread.
I'm sure there are autox's and HPDE's at FIR/PIR right? Your first HPDE will be much more exhilarating than your drifting sessions, especially as you keep pushing it harder and harder, lap after lap. Though you know what, I can understand, last time I was in Tuscon, everyone asked me why I didn't like drift. Apparently it was a huge thing around, they were bragging how they got D1 drivers to judge or something. I told them, I don't like doing it because 1. I don't want to waste my tires, 2. I don't like gymnastics, 3. I want to drive as fast as possible, and I'll drift if I think it's a faster way around a corner, but that's in situations that are few and far in between.
If any type of drifting would be the fastest, it would be the zero-countersteer drift as you're not scrubbing off speed due to countersteer. When you've mastered that, then you can say, I drift for speed. Here's a hint......pro's (drifters and racers alike) can't even do this consistently.
10-26-07, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Roen
I made references Initial D in my post, but that was in response to something else. Focus on the prevalence of drifting in the past and why it's not necessary anymore in my post on the other thread.
Originally Posted by Roen
I want to drive as fast as possible, and I'll drift if I think it's a faster way around a corner, but that's in situations that are few and far in between.
Originally Posted by Roen
If any type of drifting would be the fastest, it would be the zero-countersteer drift as you're not scrubbing off speed due to countersteer. When you've mastered that, then you can say, I drift for speed. Here's a hint......pro's (drifters and racers alike) can't even do this consistently.
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Originally Posted by darkblaze
Why do all the pros roll with 350+? because they want their car set up that way thats why . like i said you dont need a lot of power to drift just the know how to get the car sidways and keep it there.
I just can't stop these hands of mine
10-29-07, 07:00 PM
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Geez...I didn't expect to see this thread still raging. Sorry to leave you hanging, dial8.
1: How old are you to be so niave as to think that drifting helps you control your car better? You like to drift? that's swell. It's not viable for anything other than wasting tires and having fun. Don't delude yourself to thinking that it's helping you become a better drive, because it's not. That mentality is making you a more dangerous driver.
2: The "pros" (lol at calling someone who competes in a non-professional sport a pro) would run whatever is most effective for what they are trying to achieve. Not whatever they "feel like"
4: The T in STi stands for Teknica... How a car company spells something is marking and nothing more. http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/Ralli
If you live in AZ and there are no race tracks near you, where the hell do you drift? On the street? Smart....
Besides that, there are so many race tracks in California that it's not even funny. Make the road trip and take it to a track.
1: How old are you to be so niave as to think that drifting helps you control your car better? You like to drift? that's swell. It's not viable for anything other than wasting tires and having fun. Don't delude yourself to thinking that it's helping you become a better drive, because it's not. That mentality is making you a more dangerous driver.
2: The "pros" (lol at calling someone who competes in a non-professional sport a pro) would run whatever is most effective for what they are trying to achieve. Not whatever they "feel like"
4: The T in STi stands for Teknica... How a car company spells something is marking and nothing more. http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/Ralli
If you live in AZ and there are no race tracks near you, where the hell do you drift? On the street? Smart....
Besides that, there are so many race tracks in California that it's not even funny. Make the road trip and take it to a track.
10-29-07, 10:06 PM
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I think the T point is in reference to your earlier post with the word Rally spelled Ralli. Ralli is not a word in the english language, whereas Rally is. Neither is Teknica, but I guess it sounds cooler than Technical.
I run on tracks 3-4 hours away. It's not uncommon for people to do that. Watkins Glen requires me to stay in a hotel the night before.
Like I said, I'd rather have the 75 mile commute to a track than 100+ miles.
I run on tracks 3-4 hours away. It's not uncommon for people to do that. Watkins Glen requires me to stay in a hotel the night before.
Like I said, I'd rather have the 75 mile commute to a track than 100+ miles.
10-30-07, 03:18 AM
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um have you even been to az or lived in az? there are two track here!! they are no more then 60mi away firebird is in chandler and pir is just on the other side of phx. i live at the most 60-75 miles away from pir. i dont drift on the streets if you even read my other posts!!! i am not an enemy so dont sit here and belittle me because of my beliefs! and what the hell does the t in sti have to do with this thread. if your doing that what does CRX stand for? huh?
Never been to AZ, but if you have 2 tracks withen 75 miles of you, you're ahead of the game, holme boy. The closest track to me is 89 miles, all the rest are over 100 miles.
So where do you go drifting if you don't do it on the streets and the tracks are so painfully far away? Man, the whole world is stacked against you, isn't it? We're just trying to take away all your rights and attack your belief system. Yep...That's what we're here for.
Quick! Let's go burn all of his religious materials, by which I mean his Initial D sound tracks and animaes. Then he'll really be oppressed...
10-30-07, 08:01 PM
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when did i say i didnt go to the trackto drift i do at Pir=Phoenix iternational raceway. i never said it was far away either i was stateing the fact that i have 2 track at my disposal. the only matter i have is paying the 150.00 for the track time. They also teach you how to drift at bonderaunt driving school which is located at.... firebird i just dont have the 3k for the classes. In no way did i ever say i wasnt willing to make the trip to either. and i dont watch Initial D, my friend does. i am into Sci-fi more then anime. i would like to know how knowing how to drift would make me a dangerous driver! i know far more dangerous people out there. specificly an EX-Friend, thinks his POS amc eagle is hot ****. Drives like he owns the road and speeds and races going no where. me i dont do that, yes i speed once and a while but not everywhere! he also almost hurt me and my brother by trying to drift an automatic rwd nissan 200sx thinking he knew how so dont tell me i would be a danger, I KEEP IT OF THE STREETS THANK YOU VERY MUCH!! SO EXPLAIN HOW! I have enough trouble with the cops i dont need more!
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when did i say i didnt go to the trackto drift i do at Pir=Phoenix iternational raceway. i never said it was far away either i was stateing the fact that i have 2 track at my disposal. the only matter i have is paying the 150.00 for the track time. They also teach you how to drift at bonderaunt driving school which is located at.... firebird i just dont have the 3k for the classes. In no way did i ever say i wasnt willing to make the trip to either. and i dont watch Initial D, my friend does. i am into Sci-fi more then anime. i would like to know how knowing how to drift would make me a dangerous driver! i know far more dangerous people out there. specificly an EX-Friend, thinks his POS amc eagle is hot ****. Drives like he owns the road and speeds and races going no where. me i dont do that, yes i speed once and a while but not everywhere! he also almost hurt me and my brother by trying to drift an automatic rwd nissan 200sx thinking he knew how so dont tell me i would be a danger, I KEEP IT OF THE STREETS THANK YOU VERY MUCH!! SO EXPLAIN HOW! I have enough trouble with the cops i dont need more!
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My nephew is into drifting. He started with a 240sx, then he was going to put
a turboed 13b in the 240. When he got his RX7, he decided to make that into
his drift car. So far he has gotten an aftermarket ECU that is adjustable via a laptop, and a huge front mount intercooler. He's done a number of suspension and rear end upgrades as well as a custom exhaust. His car ought to go pretty
good when he's finished with it. He doesn't go around burning his tires everywhere. He has enough common sense to save it for the track.
a turboed 13b in the 240. When he got his RX7, he decided to make that into
his drift car. So far he has gotten an aftermarket ECU that is adjustable via a laptop, and a huge front mount intercooler. He's done a number of suspension and rear end upgrades as well as a custom exhaust. His car ought to go pretty
good when he's finished with it. He doesn't go around burning his tires everywhere. He has enough common sense to save it for the track.
11-22-07, 01:27 AM
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If you want drift theres a small australian forum www.mazdrift.com you will probably like.
11-26-07, 10:41 AM
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If you don't like it, just shut the **** up. Drifters don't come onto the grip threads and bash grip driving.
Dial8, you need to put your ignorant and egotistical mind to rest. You are insanely annoying. Grow up.
Dial8, you need to put your ignorant and egotistical mind to rest. You are insanely annoying. Grow up.
11-26-07, 10:42 AM
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We only bash it because they actually created the thread in the "race techniques" section. Funny, since I don't recall seeing a clock in competitive drifting.
Put it in sections like Gen specific, or rotary performance, I don't think I'd have as much of a problem with it.
Most people don't realize that drifting is a race technique, albeit an outdated one. All the drift fans that come in to post would never understand in what circumstances drifting is faster than gripping, and because of that, I assume that any drift thread usually isn't about racing. And I haven't been wrong yet.
Put it in sections like Gen specific, or rotary performance, I don't think I'd have as much of a problem with it.
Most people don't realize that drifting is a race technique, albeit an outdated one. All the drift fans that come in to post would never understand in what circumstances drifting is faster than gripping, and because of that, I assume that any drift thread usually isn't about racing. And I haven't been wrong yet.