Front grip
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From: Japanabama
Front grip
Question; does having more front grip on a car with severe oversteer tendencies (my MR-2 for example) make it harder to drift, or easier? I figure more grip means even more oversteer, but does having more front grip let you keep from spinning out when you counter?
Or does it just make drifting harder?
I went drifting at Ebisu and I had NO problems getting the car sideways... the hard part was keeping it from spinning out. I could counter all the way, and often it would still spin. Would increasing front grip help this, or simply make it oversteer even more?
FWIW I've got 215's on the front and 235's on the front. Stock size is 205, 225. I don't think you can go much wider on the rear without sticking out (no go for Japan), or rubbing.
Or does it just make drifting harder?
I went drifting at Ebisu and I had NO problems getting the car sideways... the hard part was keeping it from spinning out. I could counter all the way, and often it would still spin. Would increasing front grip help this, or simply make it oversteer even more?
FWIW I've got 215's on the front and 235's on the front. Stock size is 205, 225. I don't think you can go much wider on the rear without sticking out (no go for Japan), or rubbing.
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grip always helps as long as its proportionate. the way you describe whats happening though seems like you are falling behind on your steering work and it spins before you can catch up. try getting camber closer to 0 in the rear and toe the front out a few mm
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Yeah, I was drifting (at Drift Land in Ebisu, hehe) without a bucket seat so it make it hard to countersteer quickly and precisely enough to deal with the rear weight.
Basically the MR2 requires very precise and delicate braking and accelerator work to drift. Eventually I got to the point where I can do one decent drift, but would mess up when the car regained grip or the weight kicked back around.
Also, a stock viscous LSD doesn't really help...
I have a bucket seat now, but the steering is a little too far so I either need to modify the rails so the seat is more upright, or buy another extra spacer. Really need a racing harness too, though...
I don't want to get an alignment though! They cost about $250 here in Japan... freaking ridiculous.
Basically the MR2 requires very precise and delicate braking and accelerator work to drift. Eventually I got to the point where I can do one decent drift, but would mess up when the car regained grip or the weight kicked back around.
Also, a stock viscous LSD doesn't really help...
I have a bucket seat now, but the steering is a little too far so I either need to modify the rails so the seat is more upright, or buy another extra spacer. Really need a racing harness too, though...
I don't want to get an alignment though! They cost about $250 here in Japan... freaking ridiculous.