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charlies7 02-27-08 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by MmSadda (Post 7918643)
If anyone wants to get away from the bitching, and pose actual solutions to the problem of Internet Brands, advertising/selling, and situations like those of Kevin, please come to this thread with your constructive criticism:
https://www.rx7club.com/lounge-192/constructive-criticism-regarding-dealer-vender-policies-734255/

Or just go to Rotary Car Club

ilike2eatricers 02-27-08 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by MmSadda (Post 7918643)
If anyone wants to get away from the bitching, and pose actual solutions to the problem of Internet Brands, advertising/selling, and situations like those of Kevin, please come to this thread with your constructive criticism:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=734255

sorry i like the bitching and trouble making:rlaugh:

phoenix7 02-27-08 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by RRTEC (Post 7918620)
If not then I say we should all link RotaryRes in our sigs..lol

WHY? you wanna get the whole lot of us banned? It's not worth it. The amount of information to be found here far outweighs the stupidity and bullshit you have to put up with on a daily basis. I'd be all for doing it but it's not like they can't BAN us or delete our SIGS.

Seems as flawed as the "let not get gas for one day so they suffer" foolishness.

MmSadda 02-27-08 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by ilike2eatricers (Post 7918651)
sorry i like the bitching and trouble making:rlaugh:

It was fun at first, but BAW is for whining, and for causing mayhem. I would think some of us would actually give enough of a damn about 7club to try to get problems sorted out for it. I guess I was wrong :(

RotaryBuddha 02-27-08 08:15 PM

For a second lets take what rx7doctor said on page 5

Originally Posted by rx7doctor (Post 7916894)
Well, that is not accurate information because that $ amount is for the maximum package which includes a private sub-forum, a signature banner, and a ton of other things. Something like over 4 million hits of advertising.

Now lets count the number of vendors that have a private subforum
AeroFiber
A-Spec Tuning
Atkins Rotary
Auto RnD
Corksport
Defined Autoworks
FDNewbie Imports
RotaryShack
Rotary Performance - RX7.com
RX-7 Store
ShineAutoProject
Tuxedo Park Racing

Ok thats 12 vendors x 1000 a month. IBB is making at least 12000 a month. No way in hell this server cost 12000 a month to run.

Pele 02-27-08 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by RRTEC (Post 7917624)
Maybe someone will get all pissed and hack the site like another rotary site I know of, and all the info will be lost.... Then there would be no reason to visit it....

I personally haven't been back to the other site since it went down..

All in all this site is run by a big coorperation now.. Big Corps are evil money machines.. IB doesn't care about anything other then making this forum super profitable. The mods are just doing what they are supposed to do... But people bitching isn't going to do anything.. 100 pissed off members = nothing to them... There are so many other members that visit/click through that those of us that don't like where the forum is going (or those that choose to leave) isn't going to affect them at all.

Funny enough, that's happened here before.

Note you'll never find a member that's registered before February 2001.

I watched as post by post, section by section this board got torn apart. Deleted because of a back door security hole in Ultimate Bulletin Board...

MmSadda 02-27-08 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by RotaryBuddha (Post 7918678)
For a second lets take what rx7doctor said on page 5

Now lets count the number of vendors that have a private subforum
AeroFiber
A-Spec Tuning
Atkins Rotary
Auto RnD
Corksport
Defined Autoworks
FDNewbie Imports
RotaryShack
Rotary Performance - RX7.com
RX-7 Store
ShineAutoProject
Tuxedo Park Racing

Ok thats 12 vendors x 1000 a month. IBB is making at least 12000 a month. No way in hell this server cost 12000 a month to run.

Well said. Now, to use it to validate a point, I believe this is proper evidence that IB does not need to charge people who are not interested in status as a vendor, such as Kevin, for selling moderate amounts of parts.

RotaryBuddha, would you be so kind as to post this in the constructive criticism thread? https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=734255

RRTEC 02-27-08 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by Pele (Post 7918688)
Funny enough, that's happened here before.

Note you'll never find a member that's registered before February 2001.

I watched as post by post, section by section this board got torn apart. Deleted because of a back door security hole in Ultimate Bulletin Board...

I originally registered in 1999.. My screen name was deleted/distroyed somehow...

1twistedrx7 02-27-08 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by Icemark (Post 7918198)
How is that?

I don't sell in the classifieds, and I have paid for advertising and group buys here in the past when I was selling product.

https://www.rx7club.com/members/icemark-5271/

ok why it's okay for you to whore your personal "business" in your signature on the forum, but not everyone else.

and as far as your signiture this is your idea of following the rules:shocking:

charlies7 02-27-08 08:36 PM

Mazdamark.com......I dont see that in the vendors section..:icon_tup: :nono:



Originally Posted by 1twistedrx7 (Post 7918738)
https://www.rx7club.com/member.php?u=5271

ok why it's okay for you to whore your personal "business" in your signature on the forum, but not everyone else.

and as far as your signiture this is your idea of following the rules:shocking:


RRTEC 02-27-08 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by phoenix7 (Post 7918653)
WHY? you wanna get the whole lot of us banned? It's not worth it. The amount of information to be found here far outweighs the stupidity and bullshit you have to put up with on a daily basis. I'd be all for doing it but it's not like they can't BAN us or delete our SIGS.

Seems as flawed as the "let not get gas for one day so they suffer" foolishness.

why would we get banned? it's not my buisness.. Plus Icemark can have his buisness in his sig....

hhn2002 02-27-08 08:46 PM

well all i can say is im pretty sure this forum wont be going anywhere anytime soon. its just got such a amazing wealth of information and reliable servers to handle the traffic that its going to be immensely difficult to mirror without a company like IB to support unless members are willing to donate and someway to get at least a resemblance of the information here. the majority will stay bc the majority are not the sellers who are being locked from selling. we might lose valuable members like RR but info they've already posted will be here to stay and regular members shall continue to profit.

SpooledupRacing 02-27-08 08:50 PM

I like my new sig!

RRTEC 02-27-08 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by hhn2002 (Post 7918812)
well all i can say is im pretty sure this forum wont be going anywhere anytime soon. its just got such a amazing wealth of information and reliable servers to handle the traffic that its going to be immensely difficult to mirror without a company like IB to support unless members are willing to donate and someway to get at least a resemblance of the information here. the majority will stay bc the majority are not the sellers who are being locked from selling. we might lose valuable members like RR but info they've already posted will be here to stay and regular members shall continue to profit.

Newb... When Kevin Left, so did information he provided such as his rebuild thread (with pictures/link) and any information that he would have shared in the future..... It's not cut and dry. PLus you are so new you obviously weren't around when the forums crashed a couple years ago and lots of info was lost (fc3s)... As we all know servers are bulletproof....whatever..

I work for a HUGE worldwide company part of my job is maintaing the HVAC that feeds the server rooms, if i were to loose power for 15 minutes.. the servers would fry...

By by info.. who would rebuild this site if that happened??? IB? how much do they know about Rx7's??

RRTEC 02-27-08 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by SpooledupRacing (Post 7918831)
I like my new sig!

Permaban on the way..LOL that's awesome.

phoenix7 02-27-08 08:55 PM

well, based on previous issues. A local guy was asked to remove his AOL address because it was a business. Another local guy had the same sig (to help out the other member) and HE was asked to remove it.

I know what can happen to me if I "step out of line" and it's not fun. The "LINE" differs from mod to mod so it's all about the capriciousness and immaturity of the person but, much like the VENDOR RULE, it's very vague . That's why there is no consistency anywhere but, at the same time, that keeps EVERYONE "in line" since nobody knows what can and/or can't be done.

As I said earlier, the info and response-time of this forum is worth the bullshit.

So, While it's a good sign of solidarity for Kevin we're just IPs that can be blocked and whose sigs can be deleted.

SpooledupRacing 02-27-08 08:56 PM

I should not get banned for posting a link to some ones website.. its not mine I'm not making any money from it...

phoenix7 02-27-08 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by SpooledupRacing (Post 7918872)
I should not get banned for posting a link to some ones website.. its not mine I'm not making any money from it...

what should happen and what DOES happen are two completely different things.

SpooledupRacing 02-27-08 09:05 PM

yeah I know. lol

RRTEC 02-27-08 09:08 PM

THe info posted here is FREE revenue for the IB staff. Do WE get paid for the writeups that draw people to the site??? NO. DO I ASK FOR $ for my contributions?? NO..

We are unpaid teachers in a school about Rx-7's.

They use the info that the PUBLIC posts up here to generate click though revenue...

Of course the policy needs to change. Everyone who posts in the tech sections adds literature to the site, each thread has the ability to show up on google searches, ASk searches whatever, drawing people in... You post DONKEY BALLS in the lounge and it may show up on a search...

So what if Kevin Wants to sell me a rear seat for $50.. It Helped me out and I am sure that he made $.10 after labor to remove, ship, gas to the post office..

It's crap.

MmSadda 02-27-08 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by RRTEC (Post 7918928)
THe info posted here is FREE revenue for the IB staff. Do WE get paid for the writeups that draw people to the site??? NO. DO I ASK FOR $ for my contributions?? NO..

We are unpaid teachers in a school about Rx-7's.

They use the info that the PUBLIC posts up here to generate click though revenue...

Of course the policy needs to change. Everyone who posts in the tech sections adds literature to the site, each thread has the ability to show up on google searches, ASk searches whatever, drawing people in... You post DONKEY BALLS in the lounge and it may show up on a search...

So what if Kevin Wants to sell me a rear seat for $50.. It Helped me out and I am sure that he made $.10 after labor to remove, ship, gas to the post office..

It's crap.

QFAMFT!

DrKillJoY 02-27-08 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by CasperIV (Post 7918373)
Wait, what if I can prove that I only break even on the products I list? Does that mean I have to pay advertising fee's even though I'm essentially operating as a non-profit? For instance, if someone was a shop that normally didn't list here, but wanted to empty inventory at cost + shipping, they would have to sign their soul over to essentially give away product because they list 2 or more?

There is no "non-profit" consideration for the classifieds. This isn't about someones profit and loss report.

It would be difficult for anyone (especially someone in buysiness) to try and liquidate any sizeable amount of inventory without being noticed. Remember we are humans not machines we can read and understand context clues.

Your not going to be able to work in some loophole, because there isn't one. We review each issue on a case by case basis (much thanks to rx7doctor for that legwork) and when needed confer on what action to take, although some have much clearer paths than others.

rogrx7 02-27-08 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by RRTEC (Post 7918928)
THe info posted here is FREE revenue for the IB staff. Do WE get paid for the writeups that draw people to the site??? NO. DO I ASK FOR $ for my contributions?? NO..

We are unpaid teachers in a school about Rx-7's.

They use the info that the PUBLIC posts up here to generate click though revenue...

Of course the policy needs to change. Everyone who posts in the tech sections adds literature to the site, each thread has the ability to show up on google searches, ASk searches whatever, drawing people in... You post DONKEY BALLS in the lounge and it may show up on a search...

So what if Kevin Wants to sell me a rear seat for $50.. It Helped me out and I am sure that he made $.10 after labor to remove, ship, gas to the post office..

It's crap.


WINNNNN!

RRTEC 02-27-08 09:13 PM

I made a writeup the other day about modernizing s4 tails.. So far 4,226 views that is 4226 clicks to MY THREAD Adsense pays per click via an unknown ratio.. My BLOG makes about $5 per 1000 views.. So that would be about $20 they made off my Thread... hMmmm..

jhammons01 02-27-08 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by rx7doctor (Post 7916976)
For the record, you are not me. Further more I am involved for the betterment of this Club for better of worse. Meaning I am not going to cut and run just because of issues like this. I am not going to abandon my fellow members .

I've been out all day....this thread exploded from the 7 post I saw this morning...bujt damn

RX Doctor. Kevin IS you fellow member, by standing by idle you have abandoned him.

while I am posting. I like how Kevin was bad for posting under other names.

Why would a guy with a GOOD name like Kevin's forgo that good will and post a for sale add with an unknown name?

This makes no sense at all. So Kevin did this first? or did IB threaten him so he went to drastic measures.

The latter is the truth.

You guys know this is happening over at Corvette Forums as well. another IB owned forum. They are jumping ship like crazy.


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