I just found this car on the CASC forum for sale. The gearbox alone is worth 10K to replace! If your thinking about a time attack or race car this would be it! I dont know the owner etc, but if the parts list is accurate this is the deal of a lifetime!!

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Last raced August 2013
-peripheral port 13b dry sump with Individual throttle injection Microtech stand-alone ECM - finely tuned
-Sainz 5 speed gearbox with Mosport and Shannonville gear sets
-ford mustang drive shaft
-Griffen aluminum rad
-Diff and Gearbox coolers
-turbo II brakes
-Koni Single adjustable shocks
-8 REAL wheels, 16X10
-fiberglass Fenders, doors, and front valence
-spare diff, suspension etc
-has run 1:29's at Mosport
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- Professionally rebuild engine in August 2013 by Mazdees
-Log book all updated and passed inspection

Priced to sell at $15,500 or best reasonable offer
Contact Andrew Elliott at andrewdelliott@outlook.com
Pictures upon request

 

For sure a great buy!! But I rather build imo rather get the learning experiance then just throwing cash at something and dealing with previous builders hidden problems but great deal for sure

 

I know that car from way back when it was first built. very well built and with a fresh motor and race box a very good deal. Also, there is no way you can even come close to building a race car like this for twice the money. I know as I built my car from scratch and have over $20,000 in it. This car can go about 7 seconds a lap faster than mine and it is a bargain.

Somebody who is thinking about going racing, this car is great, it more than likely needs some minor cleaning up, but with a couple of grand more you will be in the 28's for sure with a reliable Mazdees PP motor.

The key with this car is the Saenz box. Worth at least 2 seconds a lap at Mosport alone. I also know the owner and the car will be decently maintained, but not immaculate. Because Racecar......

Eric

 

Where's Ian? Sounds like it has his name all over it.

 

Of course no arugment on the price and how much parts cost, but as you can see on my build thread I am aswell building my fc from scratch and I do take note of how much I spent and how much I have to spend on parts and they aint cheap!!

 

isn't this canjams old car? Pretty sure it is...

 

Guys, there is no way you could replicate this car for less than 50-75K unless you make the parts yourself. The silly part is after you spend years building it, all the money poured into it, your car is still worth about 10-20K if you can find a buyer for a rotary powered race car. Just trying to save you guys 34 years of experience it took to realize this myself.

 

Sounds like it, I wonder why they are selling?

 

LOL. Priority's change. Job Stability, Little son, No place to store.....

 

I tuned that car. Andrew wants to run a VW I think, thats the reason for the sale. It's a very "because race car" car but everything is there that needs to be there.

thewird

 

In 2010 this car was for sale in Cambridge for $11,500, I don't know what Andrew paid for it, but I bet he put more $$$ into it then he's asking now.

How much power did it make Marco?

 

Ya but your son will be old enough to show off your car to his friends. Or try to take it for a joy ride when you are asleep....

 

Ya I saw that car at Mazdee's last month. It was on the hoist at the time but looked pretty cool from underneath. I know zero of race car stuff, but looked cool all the same.

Funny how priorities work sometimes ?????

It's rare to ever get back what you paid to have fun with. Even woman work that way!

 

Not sure what its making now. If memory serves it was making around 250 rwhp on Joe's Mustang dyno with the original tired engine. It got an engine rebuild over the winter and didn't see a dyno after that but I tweaked at the track based on Andrew's feedback. Andrew said the pull was a lot better so whatever that is worth LOL.

thewird

 

This past summer Andrew got a 1:36.6 out of it at the BARC Event. Okay times, but no where near where that car could be, especially with over 250 rwhp. It must have been a handful as Andrew can drive. It just needs some freshening up and new tires and you should be at least 4 seconds faster. Freak, the cars a dry sump as well. It is a lot of car for the money and should be a bullet in the right hands.

From what I have heard, Andrew is building an Audi (he works at a Volkswagen Dealership so it makes sense) and needs this car gone.

FWIW.

Eric

 

Geez, 1:36 but the car has run 1:29's....

No wonder he opted to have the engine rebuilt!

 

The car has run 1:29's but this was never done by Andrew driving. He is an OK driver but his throttle control needs some finesse. He corrects a lot mid corner but maybe he never got used to the car though. His primary reason for selling is because if he runs a VW, he will get sponsorship.

The value of the car is definitely there but only to the right buyer like anything.

thewird

 

Anybody want to go splits on a part-out? I REALLY would love that gearbox.

 

Hmmm a peripheral port dry sump 13B would be pretty badass in my Rx-4..... I think I'd probably start breaking other parts quick.

 

Tell me about it. That's why I want the gearbox.
I actually really want the 13B PP and dry sump too, but at that point I might as well buy the whole car, and no budget for that.

 

What's this car look like? Is it an FC? I guess I'll have to email him lol

 

aaaand this is why I'd never go n/a.

so much money and gearing required instead of slapping a turbo on, not giving a **** about proper ratios and still being faster everywhere.

That said, this car is a fantastic deal for a race car, and it's already built. N/A has to be easy to drive and reliable, and worst case if you didn't like it you could sell the driveline and swap in something cheaper/more powerful (LS1 or turbo rotary) if you aren't using it for wheel to wheel.

01Racing really hit the nail on the head though - "bought not built" is far cheaper.

 

theres a photo of it on the casc forum, it used to be white, now its red.

 

I understand your point about Turbo vs NA, but I have seen a whole bunch of guys try to go racing with a Turbo Rotary. They sink tons of $$$$ into it to try and get it reliable and in the end they end up with a 5 lap car. A car that can go fast for 5 laps, then needs to breath on it for a few laps to cool it down and stop something nasty from happening. Even the guys that were successful racing Turbo FC's and Fd's will admit that when they are alone on track, they can give it for a relatively large number of laps, but in traffic with reduced airflow, about 5 laps before they have to drop back to let things cool. That is why, even at their peak of newness and popularity even FD's were only raced by a few guys and Turbo FC race cars were like hens teeth.

This is why, most racers use NA BP's and PP's or 3 rotors. These give decent power, fit into class rules a lot better and are reliable. If they need more power and a 3 rotor is not possible, then they go to an LSx swap or something. The reliability thing in traffic, is why guys go NA and spend mucho dinero on gearing, boxes etc.......

Eric

 

malcolm strachan used to race an FC t2