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Old 05-03-11 | 01:52 PM
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I'm with dominion of canada.

I called them ( they were already my insurance company)
said "Hi, I'd like to insure my 1992 nissan, vin number BNR32-whateveritis"
2 weeks later a card showed up in the mail along with a bill for $90 every month.
Old 05-03-11 | 01:56 PM
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The broker I was with when I had my RHD FD was Cambridge Insurance. They hooked me up with wawanesa, and then later to Lant ( silver wheels ). I am not sure who still does RHD cars but they were extremely helpful when I was getting quotes.

The guys name is Tim Deemert office # is 519-653-6072. I think he has different role now so they might try to give you to another agent. If you have no luck try emailing him directly. tdeemert@cibl.ca

Super nice guy, knows a ton about cars, and also stinky skylines :p

ps. wawanesa does not do modified cars. If yours is modified you might be out of luck.
Old 05-03-11 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Double_J
The broker I was with when I had my RHD FD was Cambridge Insurance. They hooked me up with wawanesa, and then later to Lant ( silver wheels ). I am not sure who still does RHD cars but they were extremely helpful when I was getting quotes.

The guys name is Tim Deemert office # is 519-653-6072. I think he has different role now so they might try to give you to another agent. If you have no luck try emailing him directly. tdeemert@cibl.ca

Super nice guy, knows a ton about cars, and also stinky skylines :p

ps. wawanesa does not do modified cars. If yours is modified you might be out of luck.
Wawanesa does not do RHD cars anymore (as previously mentioned).

In mid-2010 they filed a rule against RHD cars. This means if your car is RHD, they say no.

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Old 05-03-11 | 04:48 PM
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Yes I read that. I am sharing information that might help. The broker I mentioned above helped me find 2 places that would insure rhd cars. He might know more places, and that's why I gave his info.
Old 05-04-11 | 03:50 AM
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Geoff,

thanks for keeping calm and being nice. I'm not usually so pissy, but this issue is upsetting. After the 22nd I will try your methods and report back.
Old 02-17-13 | 11:37 PM
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Hey Geoff I read you post about insuring RHD, but I have one question, when you stump the broker with the filed rule, and I comes down to the vin number, it doesn't come up in the system, how do you go about getting them to recognize that and your car,
Thanks
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Old 02-18-13 | 03:09 AM
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Cloudpump,
would you be able to insure a 86 TII highly modified?It was a non turbo car.
Old 02-20-13 | 11:17 AM
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Cloudpump,
would you be able to insure a 86 TII highly modified?It was a non turbo car.
No more than anyone else could. (more or less).

Facility is the only option for highly modified cars 99% of the time.

The other 1% is when you have a daily driver which is less than 5 years old and you have a locked storage area for your 2nd car you can get specialty insurance. You also need to be over 25 with a full G license for over 10 years.

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Originally Posted by RHDLIFE
Hey Geoff I read you post about insuring RHD, but I have one question, when you stump the broker with the filed rule, and I comes down to the vin number, it doesn't come up in the system, how do you go about getting them to recognize that and your car,
Thanks
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First ask if they have a filed rule that requires the VIN to be identified by the VICC.

If no, then don't worry about it and tell them to write your damn policy.

If yes, then contact the VICC with 4 pictures of your car + a picture of the VIN plate + Firewall VIN and ask to be registered on the VIN exception list. Provide a copy of their reply to show you've registered your VIN with the VICC and that it is on the exception list now therefore it does not require VICC recognition.

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Old 02-20-13 | 02:55 PM
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Wait, you must mean over 27? How can one be 25, with ten years of a full g license!? I got my full license the earliest anyone possibly can, and i was 17 and 8 months... Either way, the option you mention here would put me in the 1%, what would that mean in rate comparison to the other 99%?
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No more than anyone else could. (more or less).

Facility is the only option for highly modified cars 99% of the time.

The other 1% is when you have a daily driver which is less than 5 years old and you have a locked storage area for your 2nd car you can get specialty insurance. You also need to be over 25 with a full G license for over 10 years.

-Geoff
Old 02-20-13 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ItsFun
Wait, you must mean over 27? How can one be 25, with ten years of a full g license!? I got my full license the earliest anyone possibly can, and i was 17 and 8 months... Either way, the option you mention here would put me in the 1%, what would that mean in rate comparison to the other 99%?
Thanks,
No, I mean over 25.

If you move to Canada from another country and get your license translated and notorized you will receive your full G license from the ministry of transportation, credited back to your original first licensing date. Some countries and jurisdictions do not establish 16 as the age at which you can drive.

Canadian Example: Alberta allows you to obtain your learners permit at 15. If you were to move to Ontario at age 25 with your Alberta license (and you obtained your learners permit at 15) all the records that I would have access to a a broker would show you as being G licensed at 15.

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Old 02-20-13 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ItsFun
Wait, you must mean over 27? How can one be 25, with ten years of a full g license!? I got my full license the earliest anyone possibly can, and i was 17 and 8 months... Either way, the option you mention here would put me in the 1%, what would that mean in rate comparison to the other 99%?
Thanks,
Additionally...

I'm not sure I understand your rate comparison question. My reply regarding ages and years of holding a certain class of license applied only to eligibility with select specialty insurance providers. Nothing to do with rates offered.

-Geoff
Old 02-20-13 | 06:59 PM
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Ah yes, me so confusin sometimes.
I went back and reread it all, and it makes sense to me now aha!

Originally Posted by CloudPump
Additionally...

I'm not sure I understand your rate comparison question. My reply regarding ages and years of holding a certain class of license applied only to eligibility with select specialty insurance providers. Nothing to do with rates offered.

-Geoff
Old 02-22-13 | 12:19 PM
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Hey Cloud pump what is the correct response to give to insurance brokers when they ask about other people living in your home - are you legally required to tell them that to get auto insurance or is that just a fact finding mission on their part to pester the rest of my family with insurance propositions?
Old 02-22-13 | 04:53 PM
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I'll answer that one^. They need to know about other members of your household with licences. This is because they could grab your keys and take your car for a drive. If your the worst person for insurance in your household you have nothing to worry about, otherwise you can insist that you get a form (can't recall the proper name of it right now) and have them sign it saying they will not drive it.
Old 02-23-13 | 11:14 AM
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What djphonics said is pretty much right.

The insurance company does have a right to know who else is in your household that holds a valid license, be it a roommate, a family member or spouse.

These people do not need to be listed on your policy if they are insured elsewhere on their own car or listed as an occasional operator on a policy.

If there is someone in your household who has a terrible driving record who is not insured elsewhere you can request that this person be excluded using an OPCF 28a form. This means that they cannot operate your vehicle under any circumstances, even emergencies and if they are caught driving, you will be charged with fraud and they will be charged with Operate Motor Vehicle - No Insurance.

However this prevents their record from impacting your policy.

-Geoff
Old 02-24-13 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CloudPump
What djphonics said is pretty much right.

The insurance company does have a right to know who else is in your household that holds a valid license, be it a roommate, a family member or spouse.

These people do not need to be listed on your policy if they are insured elsewhere on their own car or listed as an occasional operator on a policy.

If there is someone in your household who has a terrible driving record who is not insured elsewhere you can request that this person be excluded using an OPCF 28a form. This means that they cannot operate your vehicle under any circumstances, even emergencies and if they are caught driving, you will be charged with fraud and they will be charged with Operate Motor Vehicle - No Insurance.

However this prevents their record from impacting your policy.

-Geoff

BUT, the drunk next door that's lost his license for DUI twice and has been in more accidents than he can count, can borrow your car all you like without affecting your rates or needing to be on any insurance policy. (as long as he's currently licensed, anyway)

Ontario, where nothing makes sense.

FWIW my RHD cars are currently insured through hagerty, I pay less per year than my previous insurance company wanted per month after they renewed my policy. Because that makes sense too. And I have way, way better coverage now - 30k stated value, completely full coverage, and they know every detail of the car including what mods it has, etc - They don't care, they only want to know what's on it so that they can cover it if something happens.

After dealing with hagerty once, I have a real hard time giving my money to anyone else . They're just /so/ much better.
Old 02-25-13 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Terrh
BUT, the drunk next door that's lost his license for DUI twice and has been in more accidents than he can count, can borrow your car all you like without affecting your rates or needing to be on any insurance policy. (as long as he's currently licensed, anyway)

Ontario, where nothing makes sense. <SNIP>
Not exactly.

If your neighbour is borrowing your car on a frequent basis then he becomes an occasional operator. At what point "frequent" becomes "occasional operator" is a matter for the courts to decide.

Additionally. If you lend your car to someone, you're also lending your insurance policy. If the person you lend your car to has a claim this can impact your eligibility with your company as well as your driving record.

-Geoff
Old 03-26-13 | 02:37 PM
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Hi Geoff,

I tried your guide on the previous page, I called a broker and they gave me quotes for the top three companies, and when i then asked 'does this company have a filed rule about right hand drive' they said yes and when i asked for them to put it in writing that i was being declined because of the filed rule, the lady wouldn't and (can't remember exactly what she said when i asked why she wouldn't put it in writing) but she said it was something to do with the underwriter.

So my question is, if i've gone through the quote process and been given an amount for company x,y,z must the broker legally provide me with something in writing stating that i'm now being declined because of the filed rule? If so, what can i tell the broker so they are aware that i know they must provide me something in writing?

Also, is contacting the insurance company directly instead of through a broker any better to try and force them to either insure me or send me something in writing that i'm being declined because of the RHD filed rule?

Thanks a lot for your insight in this thread, it is much appreciated.

Zac
Old 03-26-13 | 02:56 PM
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state farm will but you have to be with them for 6 months or more with another vehicle and i found them to be more expensive than facility even. as well silver wheels will too
Old 03-27-13 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by fd3sRex7
Hi Geoff,

I tried your guide on the previous page, I called a broker and they gave me quotes for the top three companies, and when i then asked 'does this company have a filed rule about right hand drive' they said yes and when i asked for them to put it in writing that i was being declined because of the filed rule, the lady wouldn't and (can't remember exactly what she said when i asked why she wouldn't put it in writing) but she said it was something to do with the underwriter.

So my question is, if i've gone through the quote process and been given an amount for company x,y,z must the broker legally provide me with something in writing stating that i'm now being declined because of the filed rule? If so, what can i tell the broker so they are aware that i know they must provide me something in writing?

Also, is contacting the insurance company directly instead of through a broker any better to try and force them to either insure me or send me something in writing that i'm being declined because of the RHD filed rule?

Thanks a lot for your insight in this thread, it is much appreciated.

Zac
If the broker is unable to provide you with written confirmation that you can't get insurance with Company X due to a filed rule against RHD cars, you can let her know that you'll be filing a complaint against her with RIBO (Registered Insurance Brokers of Ontario, our regulatory board) which could result in her license to sell insurance being suspended or revoked. The complaint would be for denying you auto insurance coverage that you qualify for without providing a legally justified reason.

(note: if she is an agent, not a broker, you will need to complain to OSFI, Office of the Superintendent of Financian Institutions, they regulate agents)

-Geoff
Old 04-23-13 | 01:00 AM
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Freakin Insurance Company!
I just got off the phone with Hagerty and they wanted me to have a Daily driver..
I got one..an 1988 RX7..(not the 86 that I have tossed my LIFE into.)
they will not do the application as the car is too old..
I need insurance for my HOPPED UP TII...If not it's parting time..dammit..(sorry,end Rant..and exhale!)
Old 04-27-13 | 08:35 PM
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As of today what Insurance companies are still insuring RHD? I'm starting to get frustrated so if you know and want to make me life easier it would be appreciated
Old 04-28-13 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Terrh
FWIW my RHD cars are currently insured through hagerty, I pay less per year than my previous insurance company wanted per month after they renewed my policy. Because that makes sense too. And I have way, way better coverage now - 30k stated value, completely full coverage, and they know every detail of the car including what mods it has, etc - They don't care, they only want to know what's on it so that they can cover it if something happens.

After dealing with hagerty once, I have a real hard time giving my money to anyone else . They're just /so/ much better.
my broker suggested them for my turbo FB as well. (they did list a turbo model tho so that saved me) as for modded i did not tell them that part. 200$ per year with road side assistance.

Originally Posted by misterstyx69
Freakin Insurance Company!
I just got off the phone with Hagerty and they wanted me to have a Daily driver..
I got one..an 1988 RX7..(not the 86 that I have tossed my LIFE into.)
they will not do the application as the car is too old..
I need insurance for my HOPPED UP TII...If not it's parting time..dammit..(sorry,end Rant..and exhale!)
to old... thats odd. I sold my Fb got an 87 FC turbo its insured with no engine at the moment. i just took pics of the car, they covered me for 6200$, its not RHD tho... that might change but just my 10c that they are a great company to deal with. il email my broker and see if she can help us out. with HRD prob.
Old 05-01-13 | 10:21 AM
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so i got a response from my broker:
"Hi Martin - I have confirmed with Hagerty that they would consider right hand driven vehicles - 1985 or older
Other than that we don’t have any other market for 86-and up
Let me know if I can help out anyone from the car club
Karen"

she deals with 3 or 4 specialty insurance company's so i was hopping for some magic. sorry guys.

Geoff is the expert here and his ad vise is looks sound to me!



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