The Griffin

It's valid for a year after the e-test.So in other words ,you have 12 months after the e-test to renew your plate sticker(In Ontario).

87cncnu

Heard something on the radio the other day about them eliminating the 20 yr excemption!!
Something about it not making sense that the oldest, and potentially most polluting cars, are excused. When you think aboout it.......

dufourmike

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but how many are on the road, it just like planes and transports, clearly they polute more, but how many people drive planes to work?

Whanrow

Anythings possible. However supposedly only 2% of the vehicles on the road are over 20 yrs old. I remember reading that when the etest expanded to Eastern Ontario.

87cncnu

For Ontario cars!

Looks like the etest legislation will change Jan 1/06. New car exemption is pushed out to 5 yrs before the first test required, and the rolling exemption for 20 yr cars will dissappear!

Also stiffer fines for "false" certificates. Don't know if thats for the owner or the testing site, but I guess ya gotta figure both.

Whoever corners the market on air pumps can probably make some $$.

dufourmike

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it just went from, god this ting is a waste, to lets keep it longer?


canadian goverment rocks

Terrh

iTrader: (7)

yeah, I heard the news.
I think it's pretty ****** retarded.
here's how it works now, from what I gathered:

year 0-5: no etest required.
6-11: etest every other year.
12+ etest YEARLY.
20+ etest STILL YEARLY WTF.
30+ yay no more etest for you, as long as you legitimatly pass the last one. All cars built pre-1980 must pass 1980 emmissions standards. so that '76 whatever POS you want, yeah, it has to pass emmissions regulations the factory didn't design it to pass!

so make sure you buy as long of a sticker as you can when you renew, and renew before dec. 31!

doridori-rx7

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This is only true in a perfect world, MTO can order you to take a new test if he tests you on the spot and you fail, your certificate is then useless.

The certificate must be renewed ON the renewal of your car in the YEAR of renewal for that car.. so, if you have a car that you bought 3 months before your lic renewal, buying the car means you have to get it etested, so you do... 4 months later you have to redo it.. no if/ands/buts .. you have to get one before you renew the lic.. I know I had this happen.. 4 months between two etests.. BOTH required.

it's truly pathetic.

Whanrow

For those who don't want to search around, here are the specifics from the government website.

"This package of new and proposed changes can be summarized as follows:

Focusing on vehicles most likely to pollute:
• Two additional newer model years for light duty and heavy duty vehicles exempted (effective January 1, 2006);
• 20 year old rolling exemption of light duty vehicles eliminated. Testing of model years 1988 and newer (effective January 1, 2006; will be implemented January 1, 2009);
• Annual testing for vehicles 12 years old and older (i.e., starting in 2007, 1995 and older vehicles (back to 1988) would require annual testing).

Effective repairs to achieve emissions reductions:
• Increase the repair cost limit from $450 to $600 so that more vehicles can be more fully repaired.

Reducing the Regulatory Burden:
• Eliminate the test requirement for transfer of vehicle ownership between family members and for leasing (buyout by lessee).

Stronger Compliance Program (implementation January 2006 and continuing over time): (read tighter standards!!!)
• Making regulatory amendments that would strengthen the anti-fraud provisions and make it easier to investigate and prosecute Drive Clean fraud and strengthen enforcement of program requirements (effective January 1, 2006);
• Realigning Smog Patrol resources to focus inspections on high risk transportation sectors such as heavy-duty vehicles, including out of province vehicles, and commercial vehicles such as taxi cabs and other high mileage vehicles; and,
• Safeguarding motorist compliance through an improved information technology platform and implementation of new, robust security features, moving toward elimination of paper certificates.

Modernize test procedures:
• Implement On-Board Diagnostics (OBDII) testing for 1998 and newer light duty vehicles that have OBDII systems as standard equipment."

I remember when DriveClean first came out. They said that it stopped at 20 years as only 2% of the vehicle on the road were that old. This whole thing is a crock.

They encourage public input as part of their decision making process. Why not step up and try and do something instead of all of us just just "taking it" like good little Canadians always do?

It must be in writing to this address:
Comments should be directed to the following Contact Person:
Christopher Paulin, Senior Program Advisor
Drive Clean
40 St. Clair Ave. W.
Toronto, Ontario, M4V 1M2
PHONE: (416) 314-0375 FAX: (416) 314-4160

Additional material in support of this notice is available by clicking the following hyperlink(s):
http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/envision/en.../PA05E0019.pdf


All comments will be considered as part of the decision-making by the Ministry if they:
1. are submitted in writing;
2. reference the EBR Registry number; and
3. are received by the Contact person within the specified comment period

Here is the EBR number: EBR Registry Number: PA05E0019

Let's step up as a community and at least put in our 2 cents worth!

Black13B

iTrader: (1)

That sucks..


I wonder if I can lean the car out enough down low to pass..