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Old 12-13-10 | 11:16 PM
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Those 20 inch rims really make it stand out. Could you say what off-set, rim and tire width's you used front and rear?
Old 12-13-10 | 11:30 PM
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Thanks guys, I'll double check the rims and tire sizing when the owner brings the car back in Feb.
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How did you remount the power steering to be where the AC was....? any info/pics would be great...

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ALOT of work, I actually used the factory FD aluminum bracket, modified the mounting holes, cut about 3" off the bottem, welded in some aluminum plate....sounds easy, but I bet I spent 5 or 6 hours making it work.
The belt lines up perfectly with the crank pulley too! haha.

Oh and also its a KRC power steering pump and resivoir, meant for a V8 or something.
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When's the dyno numbers comming
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Thanks guys, I'll double check the rims and tire sizing when the owner brings the car back in Feb.
That would be awesome. I'd like to know if 345/355mm tires would fit back there to get the power down to the ground.
Old 12-14-10 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by FC3Sdrift
When's the dyno numbers comming
It made 464whp and 371ft/lbs, did you not see the dyno graph on the last page?

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That would be awesome. I'd like to know if 345/355mm tires would fit back there to get the power down to the ground.
Oh well I know the rear tires are 295 wide, stretched onto the rim slightly.
Old 12-15-10 | 02:31 AM
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It made 464whp and 371ft/lbs, did you not see the dyno graph on the last page?



Oh well I know the rear tires are 295 wide, stretched onto the rim slightly.


nope I must have got distracted looking at the pictures HAHAHA
I see it now... sweet
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Why would a street FD use anything else? Some people just don't get it.

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Marco, I'd love an explanation. I feel the same, I look at pfc's as a half-breed ECM, like a megasquirt only more plug and play (less issues).

Maybe I don't like it cause every below-budget 13b/sr build is using it... iono
Old 12-16-10 | 08:45 PM
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BEAUTIFUL! Gonna bring it out to the spring meet? or maybe a R.P.M meet? I can't wait to see it in person a Veilside RX-7 is like a celebrity amongst the community.
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Need more pics.
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Good call Callsign Vega! you as well
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Here are a few more a buddy took for us before the car went back to the owner for the winter


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wow im not gonna lie this is the first fortune kit i have ever liked. nice build. makes me wana get into the garage and complete my car lol
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Just beautiful. Did the owner not want the headlight lexan covers installed or was that one of the last bits to get sorted?

The cars color choices with the 20" dark/bright rims with air suspension really make this a stellar fortune example.
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Thanks guys.

Yes the lexan covers are one of the small touchups left to do over the winter.
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i like it with out them.. looks GREAT
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the fact that you can see you three guys in the front bumper reflection in the last shot is a nice touch... looks like it was planned that way lol
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Actually it wasnt lol, I only noticed once I received the pics from my buddy. oops
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I have to admit this Veilside conversion came out pretty damn nice.

Originally Posted by Righty
Marco, I'd love an explanation. I feel the same, I look at pfc's as a half-breed ECM, like a megasquirt only more plug and play (less issues).

Maybe I don't like it cause every below-budget 13b/sr build is using it... iono
"I look at pfc's as a half-breed ECM"

What exactly does that mean in the real world? Think about it, what do the majority of owners truly want when getting a standalone? Put simply, they just want it to work with as little hassle as possible.

What does the PowerFC give you? Well, the first is a simply take out your stock computer, cut 4 wires if you have a LHD, and plug in your powerFC. If your car still has the stock twins with stock engine, your next step is start the car and go about your business. Different injectors? No problem, after a few quick settings changed on the commander your up and driving again (not boosting) until you can get the car fully tuned.

What else does the PowerFC do for you? The PowerFC is the most used ECU on the FD. With that comes a TON of tuner support both on this forum and from the rotary tuners. Most importantly, the tuning parameters of the PowerFC are simple and include all the OEM logic for all controls. That means you start with something that is pretty much a stock computer but you can change everything while maintaining the ability to keep the car running as close to stock as possible (which is truly what owners want) regardless of your modifications to the car.

Also, how often do you hear about a PowerFC failing or causing issues? Pretty much never and on the rare cases, quite a few of them have been due to user error (like running low imp. injectors without resistors or a driver box). They're have been a few cases of failed injector circuit but the possibility of it being caused by previous mentioned issue is high as they are usually bought used and are old.

The only real reasons anyone would want to install something like a Haltech would be for added features. Things like launch control, logging a extra inputs. having custom triggers, and possibly external injection. However, usually these are special cases and are for people who setup and tune their own cars. The owners who want these features are really few and slim. Often this added complexity causes issues and can possibility lead to blown motors because example: X and Y wasn't right, so Z failed and motor went BOOM.

There is probably some things I missed but was just trying to give a general idea.

Basically instead of looking at why the PowerFC is "inferior" to other expensive and complicated standalone's, you should consider looking at what doesn't it have that is REALLY and truly needed for the tuned performance rotary.

thewird
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This is so nice.......
Old 12-29-10 | 10:17 AM
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wow! this is probably the first Veilside build that I've ever liked!! really nicely done!!! great job!!
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first luv the car definitely the nicest VSF I have ever seen and one of the nicest rx7s ever.

secondly I'm dieng to know how you set up the air ride, could you point me in the right direction on your air ride suspension?
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i hope your customer brings that to performance world 2011 this weekend
Old 03-09-11 | 11:20 AM
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We are working on it right now to get it ready for the show. Hope to see a bunch of you guys there to see this in person!


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