wb123

Just wanted to know if anyone has been pulled over and charged with stunt driving and speeding.

I was caught doing over 150khm on a Ontario hi way. The officer gave me a ticket for speeding as well as a stunt driving ticket.

I need some advice in terms of how to approach this problem I am currently faced with.

2Fierce

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Get a lawyer. Don't speed.

Zhé

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man you got lucky you're not charged with street racing,
and i think you can just get a ticket fighter, they're usually 300$ to fight off a charge, some of them can even wipe the offense right off your record

PKock

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My advice is pay your fine, good luck with insurance, and quit driving like an *******.
PK

arrowspeed

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listen to Zhe & 2Fierce, anything over 50km/h get a lawyer or more than one charge. $300 is a lot less than what you are going to get as an increase for insurance.

2Fierce

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stunt driving is the street racing ticket. I'm surprised they didn't impound your car and suspend your license for 7 days...

thewird

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It's going to be more then $300 for that type of charge but yes definetely get some type of legal help as it will save you money in the years to come. If I remember correctly Charn was offering his services to rx7 owners. Not sure if he's still willing considering he doesn't own his 7 anymore.

Not to rub it in (And I shouldn't be the one saying this as I've broken a number I will not disclose here), but really, take it to the track. It would have costed you less and been a lot more fun.

I can suggest someone who got rid of my careless driving ticket back in the days when I had a diesel Jetta and did this to it. (the concrete wall wasn't better off ^_^)



thewird

CloudPump

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First off, stop driving like a moron. There's no excuse for going 150 km/h.

Second, you're in trouble. 50 over is a major ticket. All speeding tickets from 1 over to 49 over are minors and are rated the same against your insurance, 50 over is a major (severe, criminal, whatever you'd like to call it) and excludes you from the regular market.

Over and above that, your stunt driving charge is a criminal as well, also excluding you from the regular market. Two major/criminals will generate a VERY hefty surcharge against your insurance for the 3 years they will remain on your record.



If you fight them, you'd better win. A reduced fine is not going to make any difference on your insurance. Additionally, the only way for these to be "wiped" is for you to win outright.

-Geoff

JDK

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Some people never learn....

drezjdmrx7

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Let me give you some real advice since you're getting flamed by everyone here. But what do you expect i would say 90% of us are more mature and don't speed on this forum or at least this section....So first of all you're going to get fined regardless minimum 2000 dollars and up to 10,000 im sure its your first offence they'll probably give you a 3000 dollar fine and 6 months to pay it if the judge if feeling good that morning also depending on your lawyer he might get it lower. It wont be held with the officer present because now its just you and the crown. There's not much sad stories or excuses you can give because their really harsh on this type of ****. Just man up to it agree what you did was wrong they like when you take fault for your own actions they might feel generous since you're not wasting court time. They'll give you a chance to tell them why you did it and why you wont do it again. I've seen some of these clowns in the court room when i had to fight a red light camera ticket. No one there didn't get fined less than 3 grand. Your insurance will most likely go up upon your policy renewal.

Don't speed if you have to get somewhere on time just leave earlier and if you can't leave earlier just be late.

orion84gsl

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Better late than dead. Get a lawyer. Good luck.

2Fierce

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I feel so bad for you man. Our laws are outrageous, and at first I was entirely against them...but then I grew up.

Terrh

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My advice to several of the people that have posted in this thread: stop being judgmental ********.

CloudPump

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The police officer does not have to be present for a "to be spoken to" date, this is your first interaction with the court where you DO have the option to plead guilty if you so chose, you can also ask for 3 weeks to consult with a lawyer. After this they will set a "first appearance" date, there will be no cop present for this either. At this point you (again) have the option to plead guilty or to set a date for trial (with or without counsel). If you chose to go to trial, at THAT point the police officer is required to show up as you have the legal right to challenge any evidence he has provided the crown, and as he is a (very) key witness to the events.

If the officer doesn't show for trial (which doesn't happen often, but DOES happen) you can get the case tossed (make sure it's tossed without prejudice).

Your insurance will not "go up" on policy renewal. Your insurance company will not renew you. You will hit a filed declination rule that your company (and all standard market companies have) that states you will not be offered terms of renewal with a major conviction.

You will be forced into the high-risk market, Jevco, Perth, Pafco, etc. to obtain your insurance. Your two majors (50 over is a major, stunting is a major) will generate a 100% surcharge (over and above their base rates) on your policy. Combined with factors like your age and where you live, your rates will most likely be astronomical for the next 3 years. Tickets stay on your insurance record for 3 years FROM THE DATE OF CONVICTION NOT THE DATE OF THE OFFENSE (so if you delay and go to trial and lose, which can take up to a year, it will be 3 years from the date you lost the trial, not 3 years from the date you were pulled over). Tickets do not decrease in their rating against you year to year like an accident does. They're just as rateable 2 years 364 days from when they happened as they were on day 2.

-Geoff

arrowspeed

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Even if the cop doesn't show since it is a serious crime there is a chance that the court will adjourn the case due to the circumstances until the cop is free to show. But in the end it is always the decision of the judge. Not to scare you, but even for my 45 over ticket, the judge decided to adjourn the case because it was in the 4 demerit point range even when I decided to challenge the evidence. But due to that my court date is pushed back to 18 months and 3 days from the date of infraction so I can file a 11b charter motion. Good luck though, anything criminal or over 50km/h you should definitely consult a lawyer there's this website which was pretty helpful called fyst.ca, and it gives pretty good info so you at least get a better understanding of your situation.

FC3Sdrift

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Hey check out this page , they'll tell you what your best options are www.ontariohighwaytrafficact.com

Smitter

The Flamers on this thread are unreal. If you can own an FD without hitting 150 km/hr from time to time i would almost consider you to be gay. Speeding is wrong, bottom line. Just pick your spots, preferably the track

RXeckless

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I was not going to pipe in but the above statement is true. That being said the only safe place is on a track and a lot cheaper in the long run. The only different between the OP and the flamers is the OP was caught, sometimes your at the wrong place, at the wrong time and just being stupid. Many years ago I did **** like that, wb123 your were dam lucky they didn't impound your car! Go to court, plead guilty and hope the court reduces the charge or lessens the fine.

djphonics

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I just wrote a lengthy response, and i got logged out, and it didn't post, and i'm not going to re-type it all out. so...

Pay the money, and get a real lawyer, with real experience. This is not a ticket to ask ex cop john, to ask old friend at the court house to wipe it or lower it for $300 or what ever stupid price. Give me the $300 and I can show up at a court house for you too.

Secondly, each insurance company is different and view their tickets differently. They view everything differently. RBC has the same view previously mentioned, 49 km/h over is minor, 50+ is major. Some do have different policies although.

Do NOT show up to your first court date unprepared. A first attendance meeting is quite different from a court date. the first attendance meeting is meant to essentially come to a mutual agreement.

Once again, get a real lawyer to defend you. I understand that you will pay more to the lawyer then the fine is worth. But the insurance factor alone would be worth over $12000 to me over the course of 3 years.

Also, 3 years and a day after any conviction, switch insurance companies. (at least price shop)

R.P.M.

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I've been charged twice with this bullshit stunting law. Both times driving by myself on a country road with no-one around except a cop hiding behind trees. Both times my car was impounded.

Cost me alot of money.

Wish there was a way to weed out the retards from the legit drivers. The retards always ruin it for the rest of us.

djphonics

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It is legitmately a very poor law forced upon us due the fact the a particular politician needed more votes.

misterstyx69

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Solution: go give Dalton Mc Guinty a "Hummer" and he will change the Speeding laws in Ontario,and your Case will Go away!
I can see 150Kph on the 401 but on a Hwy?..no.
Good Luck in Court.

CloudPump

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There is some mis-information in your post.

All insurance companies in Ontario regard a 50 over as a major. Every single one of them, unfortunately it's the law. However there are a few insurance companies that BUMP UP a 40 over to a major, off the top of my head, Jevco is one.

Switching insurance companies after 3 years, good advice, but will likely be forced upon him regardless. Many high-risk insurers will decline to renew you if you are a non-surchargable 3 star driver, which is exactly what you become after your tickets drop off.

-Geoff

Terrh

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I've gone over 300km/h on a county road before. I promise I'll do it again. 130km/h on HWY 3/7/etc (or a deserted construction zone on the 401 on a sunday at midnight) is considered stunting.

According to the letter of the law, so is losing traction on snow and turning left after the light turns red.

JDK

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********...Lol