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Old 08-30-05 | 02:18 PM
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I will be there aswell with about 2 of my other friends.
Old 08-30-05 | 02:26 PM
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My dad is VERY interested in attending on saturday, and we might stay for sunday. Pencil me and +3 guests please =)
Old 08-30-05 | 03:49 PM
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Okay, too many to list! Lots of interest in the meet & greet. To reiterate; on Saturday meet at the telephones in front of the restaurant in the padock. If you are camping out and I haven't spoke to you pm me for my cell # and by Thursday evening we will have a location set out. If you're not camping but want to come by for a drink find us, meet us on Saturday or also pm me for my cell#. Thanks.
Old 08-31-05 | 02:08 PM
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Free Tickets for Indian Summer Trophy Races

Jason, I have a bunch of free tickets for the September 17th Weekend Indian Summer Trophy races. This weekend includes a Touring GT Race and a 3 Hour Enduro Saturday Afternoon. These tickets will allow full track access on Saturday and Sunday, as well as camping and mock grid access.

I will search you out on Friday or Saturday to give you the tickets for all of your B-K motorsports guests.

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Super! Thanks Eric! If you're around Yonge & Dundas today we have a variety of cars on display and I've been down here answering questions about the cars and pumping the race weekend.
Old 08-31-05 | 05:46 PM
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Cheers and I will be there sat.
Old 08-31-05 | 11:02 PM
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Sorry guys...have to bow out...have my little girl.
Old 09-03-05 | 02:34 AM
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Smile hey

I will be there but i am unsure about staying over. We will see.
Old 09-03-05 | 07:15 PM
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Boy did you guys miss out, BK Motorsports were awesome and gave us all a bunch of freebies for coming out including a scale model of the 3-rotor car. Jason great job on setting this up.
Old 09-03-05 | 08:23 PM
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Thumbs up Damn

that was fun. What an experience. We gotta post up that pic of you guys with the models Thanks Jason for hooking us up!
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Sounds like I missed out on some fun damn it. Oh well next year.
Old 09-04-05 | 10:36 AM
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Thanks racer jason for setting up the meeting with BK motorsports. Getting that model was awesome. Another one to put im my garage for my collection!

Also just going there and seeing all those star mazda series cars coming out of the straight shooting flames and reving at 8000rpm was insane. The sound was awesome. Gonna have to go next year again to see this.

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Old 09-04-05 | 10:28 PM
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Indeed, thanks to Jason for arranging that meet.

The 3-Rotor placed 3rd out of 4 in class. One of the P2 cars went out in the first few laps with what was probably mechanical. I wonder how much power that car is down compared to others in class. They've got the reliability on their side but it would be nice if the car was able to win based on a comparable competitive level instead of relying on the others going out due to attrition.

I wouldn't be surprised if they win at Road Atlanta.
Old 09-05-05 | 03:30 PM
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I would kill for one of those models, but I can't say I was impressed with the run of the 3-Rotor. Yes it placed 3rd out of 4 with the 4th dropping early, but how many times was it lapped by not only the other P2's but also the GT1's?? Even the baby blue P2 that dropped early came back for a number of laps and lapped the 3-rotor during it's mild stay. I really hope the 3-rotor was having some engine troubles, it hurt watching it take a whole lap to pass a GT2 car while the other P2's would pass 2 or 3.

Can someone post a picture of their model?
Old 09-05-05 | 05:41 PM
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Can someone post a picture of their model?
No, just keep dreaming about it.
Old 09-06-05 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Eccentric
Indeed, thanks to Jason for arranging that meet.

The 3-Rotor placed 3rd out of 4 in class. One of the P2 cars went out in the first few laps with what was probably mechanical. I wonder how much power that car is down compared to others in class. They've got the reliability on their side but it would be nice if the car was able to win based on a comparable competitive level instead of relying on the others going out due to attrition.

I wouldn't be surprised if they win at Road Atlanta.
One of the crew said their 3 rotor is making 400 ish HP, and they are down about 100 HP on the other P2 class. But HP = fuel consumption, which is a feature of the class ruleset, so there is some equalizing there.

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Old 09-06-05 | 06:04 PM
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What do you mean by fuel consumption = hp?

That's probably the most thirsty of the cars in class.

Did they say that they have any gameplan to squeeze out the 100hp they'll need? That's a tall order. Mazda Japan extracted 300hp out of the 13b PP in highest tune back in the early 70's when they were racing the RX-2 in JGTC. That was carb'd. Maybe there's something to learn from there.
Old 09-06-05 | 07:26 PM
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Our P-Port 3rotor made 480 around 9000rpm. It should make more at higher rpm. Our motor should use about 1gallon every 5 miles.

I think they would be making more hp if there restrictor were bigger. I think they are around 49mm. not to sure.

There car is also about 70lbs heavier than the rest of the p2 cars
Old 09-06-05 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 20B-3Rotor
Our P-Port 3rotor made 480 around 9000rpm. It should make more at higher rpm. Our motor should use about 1gallon every 5 miles.

I think they would be making more hp if there restrictor were bigger. I think they are around 49mm. not to sure.

There car is also about 70lbs heavier than the rest of the p2 cars

Heavier? The advantage of the Rotaries have always been their weight advantage. Back when Pete Halsmer used to drive the RX-7 GTU he had all kinds of weight imposed on his car because he was kicking Steve Millens 300ZX *** all the time. One race in Mosport they had him ad 200lbs to the car and he still won. Now we have a weight problem?

I think there must have been a problem with the car, coming out of the hair pin there would be a long rev to shift then the next sounded kind of early and both sounded like there was fuel starvation at the high end. But then again it's been a while since I heard a 3 rotor on the track.
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They are using last years car which is heavier
Old 09-07-05 | 10:46 AM
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Heavier? The advantage of the Rotaries have always been their weight advantage. Back when Pete Halsmer used to drive the RX-7 GTU he had all kinds of weight imposed on his car because he was kicking Steve Millens 300ZX *** all the time. One race in Mosport they had him ad 200lbs to the car and he still won. Now we have a weight problem?

I think there must have been a problem with the car, coming out of the hair pin there would be a long rev to shift then the next sounded kind of early and both sounded like there was fuel starvation at the high end. But then again it's been a while since I heard a 3 rotor on the track.
The way to build a racecar is to build as light as possible, then in accordance with the minimum weight in the rulebook, you can add your own ballast. The advantage of this is you can add it where you want in the car. Halsmer drove the GTO 4 rotor, and yes they did impose "rewards weight", but that car probably wasn't any lighter than the Nissan to start, it was probably the same weight. The weight penalty is just a result of winning.

Aluminum intermediate housings would go along way to shed some pounds. I don't know why these have never been further developed for use. Cosmo and Bach certainly don't look like they can shed any pounds. Class acts those guys are.

They've certainly got to start making more power though. If 400ish is correct, that's shabby.

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They've certainly got to start making more power though. If 400ish is correct, that's shabby.
Yes I agree. Even if the car was in last place but held itself in the same lap as the other P2's I would be happy. But seeing this car fall behind so many laps to the other P2's and GT1's was hard to watch.

Interesting though, when the cars were lined up on display on the grid there seemed to be a bigger crowd around the Mazda then any of the other cars. I only say this because I had a hell of a time trying to get a "clean" picture of it due to the number of people that surrounded it compared to the others.

I need to get the pictures off my camera, then I'll post some. A couple of the girls holding flags next to the cars were pretty hot!
Old 09-07-05 | 12:22 PM
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Yeah, I noticed alot of buzz around the car in general too. That was good to see. I was amazed at how seamless and high pitched the scream was climbing up the back straight, seeing as how lumpy and broken up the peripheral port sounds when it's limping around the paddock.
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Sweet sounding peripheral port. I also have a couple of mpg shots of it on the track through my digital camera, I'll try to get those posted, I managed to get a couple with no other cars around it so you can hear the engine scream.
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The way to build a racecar is to build as light as possible, then in accordance with the minimum weight in the rulebook, you can add your own ballast. The advantage of this is you can add it where you want in the car. Halsmer drove the GTO 4 rotor, and yes they did impose "rewards weight", but that car probably wasn't any lighter than the Nissan to start, it was probably the same weight. The weight penalty is just a result of winning.

Aluminum intermediate housings would go along way to shed some pounds. I don't know why these have never been further developed for use. Cosmo and Bach certainly don't look like they can shed any pounds. Class acts those guys are.

They've certainly got to start making more power though. If 400ish is correct, that's shabby.
The biggest weight savings the sportbook P2 car can make is to get rid of their current transaxle and get the hewland one in there. Should save them 100 lbs or so off the rear.



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