Anyone care to find out what he drives? If its a BMW of some sort, with a hint of upgraded rims or something the like, or any other politican thats up there with him, or drives a porche or something, why don't we start by those cars ?

 

Probably a Buick Lucerne or something similarly bland...

 

doesn't matter.

they aren't even targeting modified cars, they're targeting people who "on the balance of probabilities" could be SR.


find his plate number, phone the cops that he's SR, and they should "crush his car"

maybe they can crush him too

 

Sure, if I'm caught racing, crush my car. I wholeheartedly agree with this.

But to sieze and crush my car on the probability that I might street race? Well, if we're talking about my rx-7...then I want any car with 200+ hp crushed first. Thats right, every car. Then any car with more torque. And rear wheel drive. And since there's no replacement for displacement, crush all those pesky buggers with more that 1.3L...

Oh, you mean thats an absurd proposal? yeah, well so is proposing to crush my car because I 'might' be a street racer.

 

FACEBOOK!

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2315387808

"re-elect Micheal Bryant" my ***

 

CBC report on the new Mitsu Lancer commercial and Street Racing.

The highlight of the report is the MINT FB being worked at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzFTm6F05T4

Anyone know what shop this is??

 

Something tells me that's Daniel Cojocaru @ Mean Street Speed and Custom...




(Said so right in the video when they introduced him :P)

 

More madness from Julian Fantino:

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/229429

As per Fantino, if you are ever caught going 50 over the limit, you are automatically a street racer, car will be siezed and crushed.

If that didn't throw you over the hill, he is also proposing to having planes fly over our heads so the OPP can make aerial busts.

"Fantino said the OPP planes would pay for themselves in increased traffic fines and tens of thousands of lives would be saved."

This idea sure sounds like a cash grab to me ......

The only one that made sense in this article is from the past president of Canadian Association of Road Safety Professionals, focusing the issue on public education, the root of the problem.

I also love how the reporter rolled all the highway collisions and reporting them as racing accidents.... wtf.

I am going to be the ultimate bureaucrate and suggest CAPTIAL PUNISHMENT to be brought back to punish street racers and speedsters alike. Money is not an issue to a lot of people .... Money gone, money can be made again... but once your head has rolled, say bye bye. Oh FYI, the gov't would have full control of your assets once you are executed.

 

My tax dollars buying them a plane? And can someone please tell me if there have even been "tens of thousands" of people killed due to speeding in Ontario, ever?

 

Alrite some food for thought:

Police impalas top out at 210 kph. I would imagine that most "street racers" vehicles are more than capable of attaining this velocity with ease. My concern is that if this proposterous bill comes to reality that in fact the roads will become more dangerous due to the fact that people are not going to be interested in stopping for the police only to be arrested and have their cars subsequently crushed. Just a thought, but I really do not think the appropriate research or logical approach is being taken here at all.

 

no there hasn't been that many people killed due to speeding only. i'd be willing to bet the majority of accidents aren't caused by excessive speed.
hell more people have probably been killed by large animals compared to speeding or "street racing"...

 

I suspect if the OPP did get planes they would not even use them for speed enforcement due to operating costs. There is no way they would break even without giving out an absurd amount of tickets.

Also, its easy to go more than 50+, for instance passing a tractor trailer in an 80 zone.

 

Or if you're like some of the dick heads in hamilton, you park yourself between a 50 zone and 80 zone and clip off every guy you see doing 100km/hr in the 50 yards before the 80 sign.

Damn street racers

 

i got that ****** ticket once on trafalgar rd. north of dundas

 

The real question should be this.

What are they trying to cover up ?

This is obviously a diversion tactic, there's a significant amount of barking but little bite to it. As we all should be aware, Bryant's rant was nothing more than hot air that is un-constitutional, and just plain ignorant. They, being Bryant and his lackies as well as the media are trying to divert the attention onto the "street racer"

Granted there are a few people out there who do not use their vehicle properly and tarnish the image of those of us who drive like grannies (like me). I get the impression, that a lot of the hype, is caused mostly by the movies (FF etc..) and that people who live in nice respectible (white) neighbourhoods like to keep them quiet and safe. But when a car drives down the street, not necessarily speeding or driving dangerously, just LOUD and somewhat flashy looking, what do these quiet little xenophobic communities think? They've seen the ads on the tv, and the promo's for the movies and they associate loud car with "street racer"

I have a perfect example of the above. I own Mean Street Speed and Custom in Mississauga. We're located in a fairly low traffic industrial area (along with 4 or 5 other shops) Ie: Ultimate Auto, some Porsche place and I think there's an RX-7 place just down the road. But in the midst of an industrial area, there is 1 (one) residential house, just behind the parking lot for the Bingo Hall on the corner. One of my clients was out and about in his stock EG civic, with a tripod tapped to the rear seats, he went around my buidling (which is private property) a few times to see if it would fall over as he e-brake slides around a corner. So he's making noise and going a little fast. Within 15 min there's 4 cruisers at my garage inquiring about some street racing activity. We tell them the story, they laugh they check out or projects, we have a nice chat. They told us that they had a report of some major racing activity. Which is BS, and they know it.

The police don't care, because it doesn't happen to the extent that the media and the government are trying to convice everyone of. They know where the hot spots are, they know who the "real" street racers are.

38 deaths, in 9 years makes up for 0.12% of all automotive accident related deaths in that time period. (based on U.S. statistics) An astonishing 12.8% of deaths are caused by people adjusting thier mirrors, talking to the passnegers, or tuning the radio. 40+ odd % are by drunk drivers.

so whats more important statistically, Drunk drivers or street racers?

Might I also mention the two individuals involved in the corvette race on the 400 were U.S. citizens... Not Canadians, why should the actions of people visiting from another country effect us in any way at all. Not to say that I don't feel bad for the victims.

People see a modified car, and make the wrong assumtion of street racer, because that is what the media has told them, and they beleive it. Because 95% of all Canadians, are poorly educated, ignorant, and cannot think for themselves. They may be lawyers, docotrs, PHD's etc... But when it comes to using you own damn mind to think about what the worls is telling you, they're all out to lunch.

Where does this leave us ?
I for one am scared, as should you be. We now live and drive in a society that has already made up thier minds about us. They are trying (unsuccessfully) to take our cars away from us weather we've done anything or not.

Violation of canadian rights and freedoms. Let's all move to Europe.

 

Europe is no better. Speed cameras, the EU trying to limit the autoban, million dollar gas....

Your best bet is to move a-way up north, or to Texas, Colorado, or New Hampshire.

Beyond that, and your "Blame Whitey" point, I could not agree more. The last street racing activity I witnessed was a pair of 30+ year old guys in a BMW and a Volvo playing "My ***** extension is faster than your ***** extension" in heavy traffic at 60-80 kph above the flow. In fact, Volvo almost knocked me off my motorcycle as he undertook a "slower" car.

I worry WAY more about the morons who road rage, "block" you from passing them, and drive their transports at 130+.

 

Minority Report here we come, it will come down to probabilities if we let it.

 

I'll bet this goat bastard was probably droppin the hammer down sunset strip back in his day too...big honkin carbs, cheap gas, big displacement motors, no emissions....good times

 

this is a scare tactic and look how well its working....

in the article from Julian Fantino, they tried to link a 15yr old who stole a car and crashed into a taxi at a high rate of speed as a street race...

it wouldnt take a tuner with lots of money for a lawyer to fight and win a court case, you would be able to win this without a lawyer all you would have to do is read the charter of rights and freedoms to the judge and he would saysomething like "this case is dismissed on grounds of lack of evidence of proof of street racing"

if this was possible then all those races as mosport or shannonville wouild have a crusher parked outside with a whole dept of cops to see it happen... because after all if you were just racing at a legal race track and took your car onto the road you must be all rilled up and then you will street race all the way home...

once again this is a scare tactic and its working...

 

To your last point, the cops do park outside of tracks, tuner events, and F&F movies, and ticket the HELL out of anyone in a civic with a loud exhaust.

Kind of goes against their "Keep it off the street" mantra, eh?

My favorite story regarding this profiling goes like this: I once drove my primer black, no exhaust, mismatched wheel 88 Oldsmobile Ciera to Darknights. EVERY intersection on Markham rd. looked like a drug bust. 6-8 cop cars, 3-4 tow trucks, and every "modified" car pulled over and being looked at with a fine toothed comb.

Since my olds was very clearly less-than-legal, I expected the same treatment. Got through the first three intersections without raising an eyebrow... At the 4th intersection, I launched hard, just to see if I could generate some heat. At the last intersection before the fairground, I actuall braketorqued and did a tire squealing launch. No cop even turned their head. Obviosly they were targeting modified cars, and pulling over a 4-door family sedan would have cheapened their publicity stunt.

 

Yup, that's us. Mean Street Speed and Custom. Dan's the owner, I'm the manager. That is an 85 FB GS it's in good condition, but it has some problems.
We're mostly a nissan RWD kind of shop. the upside-down car is a 260Z.

 

I dont understand why they cant wait just to catch you street racing in the act and then threaten to crush your car.... i mean seizing a car thats underconstruction is plain rediculous. I agree maybe it was said as a powerful deterrent for street racing which i dont agree with (thats why there are race tracks people)

Keep your car on the track to go fast but stay within the rules on the road.

 

This is the reply I got from the Premiere of Ontario:



Thank you for your online message about street racing. I appreciate your
taking the time to share your views about an issue that matters to
Ontarians, and to our government. I am also grateful for your kind words
of support for our government's transit plan announcement.

With regard to street racing, our government has delivered on our
commitment to keep communities and families safe by introducing the
Safer Roads for a Safer Ontario Act, 2007. This legislation, which
received Royal Assent on May 29, makes it clear that if you race on our
roads, there will be tough penalties.

To target street racers, our government has increased fines up to
$10,000, the highest fine in Canada. Police can now issue immediate
suspensions of drivers' licences and impound cars for seven days at
roadside in cases where street racing, driving contests or stunt driving
are suspected. The legislation will also help protect police officers on
the job by improving a police vehicle's visibility with flashing blue
lights in addition to the red ones. For more information visit the
Ministry of Transportation's website at www.mto.gov.on.ca.

As you are aware, street racers, especially in cases involving injury or
death, are prosecuted under the Criminal Code of Canada. I welcome the
passage of the federal government's Bill C-19 to specifically target
street racing. This legislation, which came into force December 15,
2006, will allow the courts to impose even more serious Criminal Code
sanctions on those who choose to use public roads for racing.

In an effort to stop street racing, our government is also working hard
to develop effective public education programs that target drivers who
are at-risk for this behaviour by working with key safety stakeholders
in public health and injury prevention. We are also reviewing how the
beginner driver education curriculum can help to discourage this
reckless behaviour and provide support to the police services in their
enforcement campaigns.

Thanks again for contacting me. My colleagues and I will keep taking
your views into consideration as we continue to work in the best
interests of all Ontarians. Together, we will build a stronger Ontario
for present and future generations.



Dalton McGuinty
Premier of Ontario



So they still pretty much have to catch you in the act - Bryant was just speaking out of his ***.

 

That's all fine and dandy, but the following clause still sucks ...

"Police can now issue immediate suspensions of drivers' licences and impound cars for seven days at roadside in cases where street racing, driving contests or stunt driving are suspected. "

Being a little pessimistic right now, if I was at the wrong place at the wrong time and an officer is having a bad day with a bad mood, I can easily be wrongfully accused.

BTW, what is stunt driving? That is a whole new can of worms ...

 

stunt driving is drifting, it is sitting on your sun roof and sterrign with your feet, its that kind of stuff, you know stunting....

as for the lancer comercial i have seen several other commericals with cars weaving in and out of traffic, even getting some air going over a bump in the road, and i think this commerical is for lexus, or mercedes....

for them to pick on one car and not hte rest is BS...