FD issue, oil leaking turbo.
02-24-06, 09:47 AM
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FD issue, oil leaking turbo.
Hi -- I have a quick question.
I've been looking for and FD for a long time, and i've found one relatively close by, with fairly low miles for a fantastic price.
Problem with it, is that one of the turbos has started leaking oil, and it's got the "5th gear synchro grind".
I've emailed and rx-7 shop in town, but never got any response.
Does anyone here know if this common? What's involved beyond replacing the turbos or is it indicative of a much more complicated and expensive problem? Also who here has had the 5th gear problem fixed on their fd's?
I asked for a quote to replace the turbos but never got a response.
Thanks in advance for any help.
-Tim
I've been looking for and FD for a long time, and i've found one relatively close by, with fairly low miles for a fantastic price.
Problem with it, is that one of the turbos has started leaking oil, and it's got the "5th gear synchro grind".
I've emailed and rx-7 shop in town, but never got any response.
Does anyone here know if this common? What's involved beyond replacing the turbos or is it indicative of a much more complicated and expensive problem? Also who here has had the 5th gear problem fixed on their fd's?
I asked for a quote to replace the turbos but never got a response.
Thanks in advance for any help.
-Tim
02-24-06, 10:12 AM
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Hi -- I have a quick question.
I've been looking for and FD for a long time, and i've found one relatively close by, with fairly low miles for a fantastic price.
Problem with it, is that one of the turbos has started leaking oil, and it's got the "5th gear synchro grind".
I've emailed and rx-7 shop in town, but never got any response.
Does anyone here know if this common? What's involved beyond replacing the turbos or is it indicative of a much more complicated and expensive problem? Also who here has had the 5th gear problem fixed on their fd's?
I asked for a quote to replace the turbos but never got a response.
Thanks in advance for any help.
-Tim
I've been looking for and FD for a long time, and i've found one relatively close by, with fairly low miles for a fantastic price.
Problem with it, is that one of the turbos has started leaking oil, and it's got the "5th gear synchro grind".
I've emailed and rx-7 shop in town, but never got any response.
Does anyone here know if this common? What's involved beyond replacing the turbos or is it indicative of a much more complicated and expensive problem? Also who here has had the 5th gear problem fixed on their fd's?
I asked for a quote to replace the turbos but never got a response.
Thanks in advance for any help.
-Tim
From what I understand, the Twin Turbos are fairly troublesome and most people remove them in favour of a Single Turbo kit. Less troublesome and more efficient. But not very cost effective. I, however, would see about getting just a replacement unit for the Twins. They are VERY complicated to install, so an expert would be the way to go. Talk to the shop, he's always got some good Ideas. Consider Hooking up the turbos in paralell instead of sequential. They will prove to be more reliable.
As for any transmission problem, Rebuild or Replace. You could probably get a used FD tranny for under $1000. There might be a way to "Mask" the grind, but thats just a short term fix. Trust me. I know mazda transmissions.
02-24-06, 12:00 PM
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Thanks Alak,
The guy isn't and rx-7 enthusiast, and poking through the forums, i'm thinking (hoping) It may just be the one of the oil feed line gaskets. However, that looks like a job that would be very hard without a lift, from what i've read.
I wouldn't dream of mucking with anything under the hood yet.
Is the syncho a problem that would require a transmission replacement? I'm think that the used tranny would likely have the same issues, or about to have them.
It's a really good deal on an rx-7, problem is that i'd have to go throug crowsnest to get it, and i'm not sure I want do that until the spring. Especially with the snow we just got, I imagine fernie got 10 times the ammount (lousy i'm not going snowboarding).
The guy isn't and rx-7 enthusiast, and poking through the forums, i'm thinking (hoping) It may just be the one of the oil feed line gaskets. However, that looks like a job that would be very hard without a lift, from what i've read.
I wouldn't dream of mucking with anything under the hood yet.
Is the syncho a problem that would require a transmission replacement? I'm think that the used tranny would likely have the same issues, or about to have them.
It's a really good deal on an rx-7, problem is that i'd have to go throug crowsnest to get it, and i'm not sure I want do that until the spring. Especially with the snow we just got, I imagine fernie got 10 times the ammount (lousy i'm not going snowboarding).
02-24-06, 02:16 PM
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When I bought my FD, it had the syncro problem, and replacing the tranny with a used one was the cheapest option I could find. I got a used tranny for $750. I still have the busted syncro somewhere. It snapped in two.
02-24-06, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by puma
replacing the 5th gear synchro cost 30$ if you do it yourself, plus the cost of the oil
As per the turbo thing, this is from the owner
FD owner says
A good (I think) mechanic told me it was the turbos. I doubted him on it, but he seems convinced. So, I am going to say it needs it. It seems to have a little oil smoke that comes up along the fire wall by the oil filter, and I can’t see where it is leaking. He says it is coming from the turbo. I layed under there for a couple of hours a few weeks ago and did not see any oil dripping, but do see oil smoke. It does show a little oil leaking on top of the engine on the driver’s side near where the turbo is ducted. This I thought was a gasket leak like you mention, but I don’t know.
I think he thinks the compression is fine, but thinks the oil seals would be what goes first?? That is why he wanted to tear it down and check it out, for a day’s labor. I just figured out a couple of years ago where the spark plugs are, so I don’t know much of anything about rotaries.
I think he thinks the compression is fine, but thinks the oil seals would be what goes first?? That is why he wanted to tear it down and check it out, for a day’s labor. I just figured out a couple of years ago where the spark plugs are, so I don’t know much of anything about rotaries.
He's taking it to a local mazda shop to have the boost checked on the turbos and to have the compression on the engine checked this week, he's a pretty honest seller. I offered to pay for half of the diagnostic, but he said he should probably do it anyways, for the everyones sake.
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In my Opinion(may not mean much..lol)..he should Eat the cost of the Diagnostic..you said he told you he has to get it done anyways..don't offer anything (unless you buy it AS IS)..you do have choices..It is not the only car in the world..and try and find out about the FD's engine as much as you can..seeing "he just found the spark plugs" ..Unless you plan to be buying it havin a good idea it may give you trouble right off the bat..try to get him down on the price (unless after the rebuilt/replaced stuff ,it's still a great price..)..hope things work for ya Crymson..
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Yah, i should have mentioned, i offered to split the cost of the diagnostic but he said he'd pay for it himself.
Even with factoring in the cost of the tranny, canadian compliance mods, import fees, duties,dollar conversion and an a new engine or new turbo's, it will still come in at about 2k less than anything comparable in Canada.
Even with factoring in the cost of the tranny, canadian compliance mods, import fees, duties,dollar conversion and an a new engine or new turbo's, it will still come in at about 2k less than anything comparable in Canada.
02-24-06, 05:22 PM
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Rebuilding 3rd Gen. turbo's is a wast of time and money...best option is to send them to BNR for a upgrade...cost $2500usd. or go single which will =$$$$, Or you can try your luck with a set of used one's.
Tranny would cost you the price of the syncro and it's hub...Like Puma said it's really not that hard to do if you have the tools, time and place.
One thing to remember about a FD is, If you don't do most of the work yourself this car will put you in the poor house real fast....
Tranny would cost you the price of the syncro and it's hub...Like Puma said it's really not that hard to do if you have the tools, time and place.
One thing to remember about a FD is, If you don't do most of the work yourself this car will put you in the poor house real fast....
02-25-06, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Crymson
Shaun, your friend must have sold his pretty fast?
It was up and gone in 2 weeks i think. Did he get what he was asking?
It was up and gone in 2 weeks i think. Did he get what he was asking?
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No, I don' think it's a TSB issue, but it might be worth checking with a dealer.
I believe the synchros break because of shifting from second to fifth rather than second to third. It causes some undue stress. (Maybe I'm out to lunch though... Anyone have a better explanation?)
I believe the synchros break because of shifting from second to fifth rather than second to third. It causes some undue stress. (Maybe I'm out to lunch though... Anyone have a better explanation?)
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