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Old 12-14-06 | 06:28 PM
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FD Insanity Has Begun!

Well. It seems as tho FD's are finally being imported into north america(more importantly Canada) but the reason behind getting one seems to have been misunderstood, as someone is selling a 92 FD recently imported from japan on autotrader for 19K lol. Don't get me wrong, if u can make a business out of it and ppl will buy it for that price, then more power to you. Last I read in a thread posted a little while back, a 92 shouldn't run u more then 12-13K landed. Maybe it's just me lol!

P.S - Check out this website: http://www.terra2imports.ca/import-j...5987293113.htm
Old 12-14-06 | 06:46 PM
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Alot of people have been getting upset over this recently.

As we all know, every car is different. Just because you see a price and see some pics doesn't mean the car shouldn't be worth that much.

Anyone who's serious about buying the car will have to take a look before commiting themselves.

19G's for a RHD FD doesn't sound unreasonable. I'd be worried about the ones going for 12-13G's. Everyone knows the lower the price the more abuse the car has received.

19G's for an FD is considered a bargain. Provided it's a nice car. Not totally mint, but nice enough not to worry about it all the time.

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Old 12-14-06 | 06:56 PM
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I dunno, I gave Billy's FD a pretty good run for it's money in O-town this year...

Of course, it had the handicap of Leight driving it.

Even still, FD's are worth no more than $6k, tops.
Old 12-14-06 | 07:10 PM
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Alot of people have been getting upset over this recently.

As we all know, every car is different. Just because you see a price and see some pics doesn't mean the car shouldn't be worth that much.

Anyone who's serious about buying the car will have to take a look before commiting themselves.

19G's for a RHD FD doesn't sound unreasonable. I'd be worried about the ones going for 12-13G's. Everyone knows the lower the price the more abuse the car has received.

19G's for an FD is considered a bargain. Provided it's a nice car. Not totally mint, but nice enough not to worry about it all the time.

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Eh maybe i'm wrong but from what i'v seen on used FD's being sold in japan they go for 7-10K, and ya 19K for a RHD FD doesn't sound bad at all if it's 95-96+ not a 92. "Everyone knows the lower the price the more abuse it's received" of course and if we were talkin about a 2001 FD which is worth like 40K+ I would have to agree with you but a 92 which is 15 years old, and not worth more than a modded 95 240sx or 97 prelude etc. Any sports car driven in japan i'm sure has been abuse PLENTY. I'm sure alot of used JDM engines really do have 50k on them ,but that's 50K of insane japanese touge milage and that's y they wear done so fast.

You obviously didn't take a look at the website i posted or u would have seen all the other MODDED FD's that are selling for way less. More $$$ doesn't mean it' s better and of course u'd check out the car before purchasing (i'm not sure if it's always possible if ur importing) I was simply trying to state a fact. I personally don't care, when i'm ready to buy, I'll go straight to the source and for 6-7K less I'm sure i could handle a few problems.

PS - If ur trying to sell a car and ur NOT listing all the things that make it worth 6-7k more. ( YOU NEED TO TAKE A BUSINESS CLASS).

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Old 12-14-06 | 07:37 PM
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I am with andru on this one. I will be ordering my FD withing the next couple of months. I am going to be getting it directly from one of the japanese auctions. My total cost on the car will be approx 6grand and that will be for a 3.5-4.0 auction grade car with around 70-80,000km. I am going to be fairly picky with what I buy and only buy a car that apears to be stock to try and reduce the problems with the car. I will let you all know how things go with this as I will be shopping very seriously once the new year hits. Right now I am just doing as much research as possible to find the best place to buy my car from.
Old 12-14-06 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Feds
I dunno, I gave Billy's FD a pretty good run for it's money in O-town this year...

Of course, it had the handicap of Leight driving it.

Even still, FD's are worth no more than $6k, tops.


where can i get a running fd for 6K???
Old 12-14-06 | 07:47 PM
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I found a nice yellow moded FD from Japan for 5500USD once. I wish I bought it.
Old 12-14-06 | 07:48 PM
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go to www.japaneseusedcars.com and find near the top where it says estimates. click on that. Then on the left hand side go to where it says "mazda" and hold your mouse on the bottom one. You will then see a list that comes off to the right side and click on RX-7. Then at the bottom scroll through to page 40ish i think or until you see RX-7s that are from 1992. You will then see info on these cars such as km's, color, auction grade and a FOB price. That fob price is in japanese yen (for approx conversion just devide it by 100). That FOB price includes all fees to get the car out of Japan, you are then responsible for shipping (approx $750-800 USD) and for all fees to bring the car into canada (12% or so duty on purchase price of car only+ probubly around $500 or so misc costs). You will see that you can get a decent FD for around 450,000JPY + about $2000 CAD in extra costs you then have yourself a FD imported and waiting for you in vancouver for around $6500.
Old 12-14-06 | 08:25 PM
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Good old Feds... in with the comment...

I'd be happy to see a few more FD's on the road. What worries me is the availability of these cars. Meaning, we'll probably see alot more "ricer" kids trading in their Civics for used RHD RX-7's.
That's the thing that worries me the most.
Reputation of the FD will go down...

I wonder how this will effect insurance? What do RHD RX-7's fall under?
Old 12-14-06 | 08:31 PM
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I agree with you that you will probubly see alot more ugly FD's on the road. But as most FD owners know, FD's are a very fragile car so most of those ricer kids who are used to the reliability of a civic might buy a FD but once they have issues with it I think that the rest of the FD owners will be able to buy some cheap parts cars.
Old 12-14-06 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Football22
I am with andru on this one. I will be ordering my FD withing the next couple of months. I am going to be getting it directly from one of the japanese auctions. My total cost on the car will be approx 6grand and that will be for a 3.5-4.0 auction grade car with around 70-80,000km. I am going to be fairly picky with what I buy and only buy a car that apears to be stock to try and reduce the problems with the car. I will let you all know how things go with this as I will be shopping very seriously once the new year hits. Right now I am just doing as much research as possible to find the best place to buy my car from.
That's awersome! Please do. That's the reason I started this thread, just to bring to everyone's attention that very old FD's, aren't USUALLY worth what they're said to be and so ppl actually know that these overpriced listings r rip offs unless proven otherwise. Please anyone who is importing an FD for a realistic price let us know how it goes so we can all benefit from each others expericences. Someone should start an official section for this.
Old 12-14-06 | 09:34 PM
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ya the FD craze wooooo , hehe. YA maybe a few kids or what ever you call them will buy FDs. They go buy big exhaust and whoaaaa boost 15-18s on stock ecu with a nice big Intercooler.

Then boom. Then Get the quote of $ 3 -5 grand to fix everything. And then

A) they say **** it and sell it for cheap

B) another rage of what use to be 2nd gen owners trying and doing **** themselves to save money .

and then when you think the FD rage will never end.

The MKIV supra will be legal with the Lancer evolution and FDs will once again be in the back of the list as the sexiest and most dangerous to own.

OHHH YAAAAAA.
Old 12-14-06 | 09:36 PM
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Sorry if above made no sense. A bit tired and coffed out.

PS the MKIVs and evos will be legal end of next year ( 2007 early 08 ) thats why i was stating that above.
Old 12-14-06 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by FC3S.USD
Sorry if above made no sense. A bit tired and coffed out.

PS the MKIVs and evos will be legal end of next year ( 2007 early 08 ) thats why i was stating that above.
so will supras be affordable now? I wonder if the prices of the mk4 will be just like the fd's, almost in half, that would be nice. arent evos really $$$$, even the old ones?
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If any car is overpriced in North America, it's the Supra. I've seen single MKVs go for 15k cdn in Japan.
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HOnestly, not to stir the pot, but really, is an fd worth $25+k? you can get car X (eg. my rx-8) for the same price, and it still has a warrenty, is nicer inside and out, and has no rust at all, whereas even the best kept fd will have a least the slightest bit of rust on all the open bolts, nuts and other things. Sure, fd's are very nice cars, and have worn well with age, but id rather my 25k Rx-8, than an Fd that might cost me another 10k next week.
Old 12-15-06 | 12:02 AM
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Its all up to opinion dufourmike, some people who want a nice DD of course the RX8 is the answer.

But some people prefer the kick in pants or more power or sexy looks, or just plain simple want the RX7.

Will I start the why the 7 is better than 8 etc etc, nope thats just stupid to do.


But some people will go there way for a nice FD. Why do people pay 80 k for a boxter when they can have a rx8 that will perform the same ? And cost **** less ?
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just a quick note, i have seen many of these threads latley of guys wanting to buy these JDM FD's for $6000 cause a legit FD is over priced, each time i have said no response BUT i will say this.....

Any of you kids that bring these FD's over, please make sure its full of aftermarket goodies!!! This way when you blow it up from using cheap Ebay parts cause you cant afford quality stuff, or you just have common age probs and cant fix it. Us guys can swoop in like seagulls and scoop the parts up!!

Not being mean, just a bit of reallity cause these cars are not cheap to upkeep!!
Old 12-15-06 | 01:45 AM
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i posted this in another thread, but basically i think that the value of the car is all relative. sure, you might save a bit of money getting a JDM FD (yet to really be proven), but honestly in the end if you have a domestic FD that costs $20k, i'm willing to bet that to get a similar condition JDM FD you are not going to get it from a $10k JDM FD.

personally i will never buy a non-parts car without first seeing it unless from a very trusted source (i don't consider these importers " very trusted" sources).
at least now with JDM FDs starting to be sold locally, you can go check out the car in person.

in the end though, if there are two exactly same FDs side by side, the only difference in that one has the steering wheel on a different side, there shouldn't really be a price difference. unless you REALLY REALLY hate the steering wheel being on the other side. i have driven both LHD and RHD, and i couldn't care less. just my opinion.
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Mazdabation has hit the nail on the head. FD's are not cheap to own.

Dufourmike,
Remember what we said at Leigh's place?! lol We won't comment any further...

Nobody has touch the insurance issue....
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Originally Posted by Mazdabation
just a quick note, i have seen many of these threads latley of guys wanting to buy these JDM FD's for $6000 cause a legit FD is over priced, each time i have said no response BUT i will say this.....

Any of you kids that bring these FD's over, please make sure its full of aftermarket goodies!!! This way when you blow it up from using cheap Ebay parts cause you cant afford quality stuff, or you just have common age probs and cant fix it. Us guys can swoop in like seagulls and scoop the parts up!!

Not being mean, just a bit of reallity cause these cars are not cheap to upkeep!!

I honestly think that you are being somewhat ignorant with this post. If you are classifying me as one of these kids bringing these cars over who doesn't know anything and can't afford anything you shouldn't jump to conclusions so fast. Think abuot the numbers. I can get a FD with around 80,000k on it for say 8grand CAD for one in really good shape that most likely won't have many problems, or for around 6-7grand for one that won't be as nice. Even if the car does need a new motor, say 3grand, I could still spend around 3grand more for a few reliabilty mods and still have a better car than most fd's sold in Canada for the same price if not cheaper. I am pretty sure that anyone on this forum who is wanting to bring a FD into Canada realises that these cars are fragile and do require more maintenance and time than most other cars. Stop generalizing so much and realise who you are talking to. I agree that the general public who doesn't have much education will buy a fd and blow it up with cheap parts and lack of knowledge, but just because this is what they will do doesn't mean that the people in this forum will do the same.
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Originally Posted by Feds
I dunno, I gave Billy's FD a pretty good run for it's money in O-town this year...

Of course, it had the handicap of Leight driving it.
And the boost controller set at 6psi... can't trust Leighrfdg.
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I dunno if anyone actually took the time to look through the link i posted, but this is what u get for 20k:
http://www.terra2imports.ca/import-j...9478266440.htm

I don't like the front bumper but other then that, this is my FD lol RE AMEMIYA STYLE. Damn this thing even has a roll cage.

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I honestly think that you are being somewhat ignorant with this post. If you are classifying me as one of these kids bringing these cars over who doesn't know anything and can't afford anything you shouldn't jump to conclusions so fast. Think abuot the numbers. I can get a FD with around 80,000k on it for say 8grand CAD for one in really good shape that most likely won't have many problems, or for around 6-7grand for one that won't be as nice. Even if the car does need a new motor, say 3grand, I could still spend around 3grand more for a few reliabilty mods and still have a better car than most fd's sold in Canada for the same price if not cheaper. I am pretty sure that anyone on this forum who is wanting to bring a FD into Canada realises that these cars are fragile and do require more maintenance and time than most other cars. Stop generalizing so much and realise who you are talking to. I agree that the general public who doesn't have much education will buy a fd and blow it up with cheap parts and lack of knowledge, but just because this is what they will do doesn't mean that the people in this forum will do the same.

I think Mazdabation is referring to the general public, not us on the forum. Ask any FD owner on here what the cost of insurance and maintenance is.

It would be like buying a sport bike. Sure it only costs $12000 or so to buy but expect to pay that much in just insurance in a few years of owning it.

Do a search on here for FD's for sale and you'd see plenty of "FD for sale, can't afford to maintain it" type threads.
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The value of the FD is supply and demand as is with any "collector car". Even with the import insanity these cars are and will still be rare. Wait a few years and I'm sure the value will creep back up.



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