Heard on the Radio the province is looking at some form of air care. The latest idea is a camera that picks up toxins from you exhaust and takes a pic of your license plate. The offender than must take it in for a service to comply with whatever rules they put in place. They also stated that they would be focusing on vehicles older than 1996. We'll that would be most of us rotor heads! Anyways keep the ear to the ground, hopefully we can vote or lobby if the issue is pushed.

 

Interesting idea.. but the amount of vehicles, the amount of cameras, the amount of detectors, I think it would almost be cheaper if the government were to ban all cars older than '96 all together or else run annual emissions test. It seems like a bit of a stretch, but you never no anymore these days. I hope something like this is never introduced.

 

goddamn fascists

its enough to make u think the clowns who make these rules expect to live forever, yet keep doing things that make the populace want to kill them off early

 

damnit..i thought alberta was the good province....what happened!

 

oh oh.. we'll defintely be screwed then. eh Hugh?.
how the hell have u been?
i have been in hibernation for the winter

 

The cameras are better than if they make everything older than say 10 years do mandatory e-testing - few 7's would be likely to pass (I for one have no cat!). The cameras, on the other hand, would only be sending test-and-repair notices out to cars that exceed 5x the pollutants they should have put out new - basically the visible smokers, although I'm sure some heavily modded 7's and a lot of modded diesels, as well as the smoking heaps, may still get snared. With the cameras, at least there's a lower risk of getting nailed - and if you spot it, you could kill the ignition and coast by, and they're targetting the worst polluters only.

The cameras would of course be set up at high traffic locations - ramps along the Deerfoot and so on. They have to be used where there is a single lane of traffic to monitor, which might help a bit with spotting them and lifting or killing the ignition to reduce your signature.

 

lmao Thats classic!! Turning the car off and coasting by. I like most Rx-7 guys have ditched the cat in favor of less heat and more performance. So I think that this may be my solution. Also remember that if they do this that we don't put the key in the lock position and lock out the steering wheel. Only positive here is it is the government and we do get a say in what they legislate so keep tuned in!

 

Alberta air care on cars is the last place they should be looking!!
lets see them start on where the real polluters are in Alberta
the oil co.'s !!
As long as Alberta is busy meeting the demand of the Americans needs
for oil and gas so they can continue to be the world leaders in pollution, I
don't think there is any chance of Alberta meeting any targets for emissions!
in short leave the little guys alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

True enuf, dat. The oilsands are putting out as much pollution as the province of Ontario or something like that (any budding David Suzuki's out there can feel free to correct me with actual numbers). 25% of Alberta's considerable natural gas output goes there to run the extraction process. Time for the province to fast track, rather than stonewall a couple of the newest CANDUs to supply the energy for tarsands oil extraction - we, and the world, need the tarsands, but it doesn't have to be environmental and GHG hell. Could probably go a long ways to making our Kyoto commitments too, even though Kyoto is like a swear word here in Alberta - lol

 

haha im screwed either way, my fd has no catback and my truck runs rig deisel...

 

They dont need aircare. Everyone drives new cars here.

 

^^ exactly the few people in calgary that have a car old enuff or the few people here that have moddified cars is insugnificant compared to the guys with the ford F550 duelies as their daily drivers.

 

Does Alberta have a smog problem in inhabited areas (ie. non-oil sands areas)? While I'm all for environmental regulations, vehicle emission testing is primarly a political tool so that it can appear that a government is doing something when in reality it likey is not. In Ontario there are very, very few cars that are truely improved by emissions testing. The vast majority have no issue whatsoever.

How can a camera determine if emissions are caused by a specific car as opposed to on in front or beside. Can the camera distinguish between smoke and water vapour (ie. what you see when the engine is cold)? If they're going to do it, mandatory testing seems the only logical solution.

CO2 is the biggest problem and polling shows that the majority of albertans do not 'believe' in the greenhouse effect.

 

God dammit. Just one more reason to get the "Transporter" flipping license plate mod, lol.

 

in the 70's auto makers started to put smog junk on cars
catalytic converters etc.
if co2 is the big problem wouldn't getting rid of cat converters be a
great move since the cat converts carbon monoxide to co2?
maybe whats needed is a converter to change co2 to carbon monoxide
lol

the other day it was really warm here broke the record high set in
1802 , my god they had a global warming problem way back then to!!!!!!!

 

CO2, while a greenhouse gas, is not a toxin. CO, NOx, and unburned HCs are (nitrous oxides not so much directly, but they react in the atmosphere with HC's to form smog, which is), and are greenhouse gases besides.

Smog is a problem in Calgary in the winter months primarily, albeit not as severe as places like LA or Toronto. It usually happens when there is a chinook, or one coming (creating an inversion layer of warm air aloft trapping a small layer of cold air below). There is little heavy industry here, so almost all of the pollutants that create smog come from vehicle exhausts.

 

I could see if they wanted to introduce this in the GTA or something, but it seems like an awful waste of money to be picking on cars in AB when they've got oil giants doing far more damage.
Everyone once in a while I do feel sort of bad for the damage I'm sure my car is doing to the environment. But then you spend 15 minutes driving and forget all about it
If you're really worried about it, move out to the country: More windy roads and deserted areas to play in!

 

not to mention trucks are exempt from any kind of emissions in most states and since they arent made to comply with any kind of fuel efficiency standards i doubt the emissions testing that would be agreed on would apply to trucks or diesels anyway. so another attack on the used car and or younger driver.

 

most of the vehicals i help build at work for the oil co, have very little or no attemps to reduce emmisions, one of the vehicals we just finished had a deisel idle of 2500rpm without a load, not to mention it had a very half assed muffler. eventhough i agree that there are no massive oil operations near the city, a lot of the verhicals that are in the oil industry are built, tested, services and transported from the city. but i'd almost be assured that this idea originated from edmonton which has much heavier industries and very little climate effects to dispurse the pollution