His quote from the latest competing forum is a complete fabrication. I've not only never sold advertising to classicauto, but I've never sold stickies in the regional forums. If he sent money to me he should post proof. As far as I can tell his statement was a knowing lie with one purpose, to slander me.

 

I know Joe and his father to be honest hard working people, never heard of them being liers....

 

I'm sure that's the case, but he's let what happened with the magazine becaome his motivation to start a personal tirade against me. Look at his posts on that other forum. And what I quoted above is a complete fabrication, if not he should post proof to support his claim.

And if he can't do that he should apologize on both sites.

 

It his hard to believe you when you are responsible for the below communications:

You started a thread titled “Where the F*ck has Ryan been?” You were making everyone aware about how wonderful your life is and inevitably minds turned to Rx7tuner magazines, as you are the easy scapegoat on the topic.
In fact it was a moderator that asked you sarcastically…
Then another member inquired more seriously and sited previous conversations with you on the topic…
You gave an explanation and offered to rectify the issue…
That Monday was 13 Mondays ago and you have still done nothing that you committed to doing as far as I know. This is why your word means ****. And please don’t give me some crap about losing part of your thumb. Frankly you could have lost part of your dick and it still shouldn’t prevent you from maintaining your commitments. The above behaviour is not indicative of leadership material. You owned a site that many contributed to building and reaped the profit when selling it. You got lucky, plain and simple. Follow through on something other than registering a domain name and you’ll get some respect.

 

I figured you'd chime in ... another guy with a chip on his shoulder because your mags were lost repeatedly by the Canadian Postal Service.

I sent his mags out last week, as I told him. $29.10 to send a box of magazines, more money than the subscription was in the first place.

It's clear that he created the lie about buying sticky threads because he's mad about what happened with the magazine. So what, you're defending actions like that?

 

No, just stating the obvious, which is that you have no credibility. Exactly what I posted in your comments thread, which someone deleted.

 

I realize you're part of the 3% that hates me because you feel like you've been wronged. But answer my question, does that make it alright to fabricate slanderous lies? If you do think it's alright, I couldn't care less if you view me as credible or not.

 

Classicauto has never done anything wrong and has gone out of his way to help me out and I never heard a negative remark until now. So I wonder about the truth.


If you have anything to do with the RXtuner magazine then I would be another one with a chip on his shoulder against you.

Where is my two year subscription! The one year subscription got me 3 magazines. The two year NOTHING!. But personally I don't GAF about that anymore nor is this the thread topic......................

IAN

 

OK, I'll bite.

Dear Master, it would be so wrong if someone wrote lies about you on an internet message board. It is not like you duped many members out of their hard earned dollars previously. Why would anyone accuse you of such a thing?

And for the record I did not order your magazines. I paid full pop at the news stand since that was the only way to get them. I simply don't like you.

And trust me the number that dislike you is probably far greater than 3%. 3% is probably the number that have the ***** to tell you in "your house" as you put it.

The Canadian section has been so boring lately!!

 

Just curious what the other forum is….anybody know?

 

Since the thread states Classicauto is a liar, I must also state he has gone out of his way to help me countless times and has been a great deal of help to me. I'm only chiming in incase someone sees this thread and thinks he may be dishonest.

There's a handful of Rx7 guys that I have met that have been extremely helpful and kind to me, and Classicauto is one of them.

 

Hmmmm I also don't know about this forum... care to fill me/us in? What happened to the rule about no user names in the thread title? Double standard or what? Rules are rules... You made them, maybe you should follow them too? Going to take your ball and go home now?

As far as I can see, I have never heard a bad thing about Joe, seems like a stand up guy, now I have heard things about your "magazine".

I guess you have no idea at all how tight the Canadian forum is, specifically the Ontario members, I don't think anyone is going to buy your "claim" that Joe is a liar.

 

rotarycarclub.com

Probably get banned for saying it.

 

Thanks Charn! Almost stopped in at your house this weekend, but ran out of time!

 

You guys can be as tight as you want, and you can all be as angry at me as you want. But Lawyer, you're deflecting my question - is making up lies about people you don't like the type of behavior you condone?

And all I'm really wanting for here is Joe's response.

I feel pretty silly for spending that $30 to send his box of mags now.

 

Why do you feel silly? You spent money on something someone paid you for... and didn't deliver on? Isn't saying you will provide a service, and not deliver on it considered mail fraud? Which is a felony if I'm not mistaken.

 

Why do you only address the one thing I said tongue-in-cheek? I said that jokingly, although I admit it may be hard to tell that from my post. What about the other things that weren't jokes?

 

Because I can already see the way you are, and treat people that pay you. You just seem to want people to feel sorry for you, like when you posted that thread about you blowing the end of your finger off, now gun injuries aren't funny, it's kind of like karma coming back and biting you in the ***.

 

Ryan,

Truth be told I have no actual proof in the form of PM's or a payl recipet (anymore) because I've had to clean my PM box many times since then (we're talking years) and I didn't make the purchases through my shop, I bought them out of pocket - otherwise I'd still have a recipet in my boxes of taxes which I keep for 7 years like all other businesses.

The thread I can still find is here: https://www.rx7club.com/canadian-forum-42/classics-paint-info-401654/

A loley 1,400 something views after that many years lol

Only thing I can really tell you about the transaction was that I originally contacted silverrotor about getting it and then I dealt with at least three admins until I finally paid somebody and I quite frankly don't even remember who because I didn't think it would matter at the time. I knew you owned the site and presumed it was trickling upwards to you in some way.

As far as I'm concerned Ryan, you deserve every BIT of slander you get. The only person I've ever seen slander me on this or any forum (or quite frankly, in my day to day life) is you on this occasion, and its for something you've done or were involved in - and yes tied into the wrongs you did with that magazine. So what is big deal if someone says something bad about you? Are they right, is that what bothers you?

I frankly could care less about what you think about me or what you remember about what happened years ago. Last I checked with you, your memory is COMPLETELY shot because you've left a "box of my magazines" in your basement for years and haven't remembered to mail them to the person who has beat that dead horse on your own forum quite frequently. I find it hard to believe you have such sharp recolection.

I'm sure you're a nice guy, I'm sure you're not an evil cave dwelling monster who sucks the blood of children, but if you can't live with someone disliking you and tellign others of the crap your pulling and doing it where you can't delete it then you really need to just start doing less people wrong.

My input is done here

EDIT: Actually I'd like to say one more thing.

You must have actually shipped my magazines because I think I understand what happened here. You sent them after all this time, and found me STILL bashing you and venting my frustrations about how I've been screwed by you in the past and you get mad that I'm not grateful for you finally sending the magazines?

No? Well it was a good guess.

But just waht was the point of "calling me out" here? You feel so wronged by someone else that you have to voice your opinion? Boy, that DOESN'T sound familiar to me I tells ya!!

 

It sounds to me like you admit you're lying? Paypal keeps record of every transaction, ever ... mine goes back almost a decade. If you had record of it, you'd have found it and posted to prove me wrong.

I think you need a Dictionary. Slander is the original perpetrator, not the one who points it out.

If you did pay me I'll gladly give you the advertising you paid for. If somebody here misrepresented themselves as the person to speak with about advertising and accepted your money, you'd have record of that too. But it would be the first time in the 11 years of this site that it has happened, and your anger would be misdirected.

But when you admit you didn't pay me or anyone else and that you made the whole thing up, you should apologize.

 

lol

Whoa thanks for the tip. I didn't realize that you could download the whole history, heres one:


Now, I do sincerely apologize Ryan, it was $200 not $250. I must be getting old.................


"2/16/2005","20:00:02","PST","MazdaSource.com","Payment Sent","Completed","USD","-200.00","0.00","-200.00","classicautobody@hotmail.com","ryan@rxtune r.com","94N35649409503405","Verified","Non-Confirmed","","","","","","","","","","","","","", "","","","","","","0.00","1129 Regional Road 20, RR#2","","Hagersville","Ontario","N0A 1H0","Canada","",

EDIT: I'd post the whole document, but it may have personal info.....what are the numbers fo anyway? BTW I'm looking for the other one right now.....

EDIT2:

"4/29/2005","06:21:13","PST","MazdaSource.com","Payment Sent","Completed","USD","-250.00","0.00","-250.00","classicautobody@hotmail.com","ryan@rxtune r.com","25499089F67405539","Verified","Non-Confirmed","","","","","","","","","","","","","", "","","","","","","0.00","1129 Regional Road 20, RR#2","","Hagersville","Ontario","N0A 1H0","Canada","",


Also, maybe it was just that I got the first one mixed up with the second....ccan't be sure.

 

^^^ GOOD JOB Joe,

NOw mister owner...give him his advertisement...(and apologize already).

 

Well wha-da-ya know, you did send $200 - I have that in my records too. I've never sold a sticky though, and wouldn't have at the time either. The only note in the Paypal was

I had been talking to Merciless about it - he can provide you with the details

And I don't see any follow-up from you at the time via PM or email, nothing from Merciless either. I simply missed the paypal transaction, and you have to admit you never said anything to me about it over the last 2 years. I've never taken advertising money and not delivered. So I'll sticky your thread now, although I've never sold a sticky so coming up with a term is whatever you say you negotiated with merciless.

I'll trust you to tell me whatever term you agreed on with Merciless.

This honestly is the only time I know of something like this has happened. NO other mods have negotiated deals without consulting me first. And if they have, I need to know about it!

 

You guys are wrong about me ...

It's misunderstandings like this, that are left open and unresolved for years that become the root of all this hostility.

 

lol, so thats it?

Well please, leave the sticky up for as logn as you feel I really don't recall waht I negotiated, but just so we're celar, this is no excuse for screwing up.

I never contacted anyone? lol Because that really goes a long way with you Ryan. How many times did I get in touch to remind you about the mags?? You think it was worth my effort for the stupid do-it-yourself polish thread???