Rx7 Wagon
#26
Not too much to report.
Actually got the car out a few times recently.
Snapped some pictures on an extended errands/shopping session
Clean-ish engine bay. Shiny new bolts for the overflow and washer tank necks.
Here's a couple pictures of the repaired sun visor barrel(left). It's been holding up really well.
You can't tell one has been sliced in half and glued back together.
Just in case they repair doesn't hold, I picked up some of these cool 3d printed barrels: https://www.rx7club.com/group-buy-pr...p-buy-1104780/
Options are always good.
The woman person has informed my my parts queue is unacceptable. Some stuff to be sold, some to be installed, some to be squirreled away in storage.
I really wanna redo my radiator, AST, and hoses. But, I've been super busy and some nice parts side tracked me.
And, I change my mind a lot. More than the woman person, I think.
Nobody eats at the table anyways...
Lucky Strike Extra: Saw this super sweet motored bicycle, whilst out on the town.
Actually got the car out a few times recently.
Snapped some pictures on an extended errands/shopping session
Clean-ish engine bay. Shiny new bolts for the overflow and washer tank necks.
Here's a couple pictures of the repaired sun visor barrel(left). It's been holding up really well.
You can't tell one has been sliced in half and glued back together.
Just in case they repair doesn't hold, I picked up some of these cool 3d printed barrels: https://www.rx7club.com/group-buy-pr...p-buy-1104780/
Options are always good.
The woman person has informed my my parts queue is unacceptable. Some stuff to be sold, some to be installed, some to be squirreled away in storage.
I really wanna redo my radiator, AST, and hoses. But, I've been super busy and some nice parts side tracked me.
And, I change my mind a lot. More than the woman person, I think.
Nobody eats at the table anyways...
Lucky Strike Extra: Saw this super sweet motored bicycle, whilst out on the town.
#28
Cool Charge Intercooler Duct
Here's an add that shows the two side by side: https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...-duct-1068554/
Yes, it's a TurboJeff battery tray. The size is 51r, a common Honda battery size. All the feedback I have about switching to something smaller involves a batter tender. The 51r one has never let me down, even after sitting for a good long time with the alarm on.
Last edited by Narfle; 03-06-17 at 10:56 PM. Reason: Clarificaiton
#29
Thanks! Just trying to take good care of it for now. Sold the duct with the IC, but Pettit sells a stand alone duct that lots people use for various applications, including the Greddy.
Cool Charge Intercooler Duct
Here's an add that shows the two side by side: https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...-duct-1068554/
51r, a common Honda battery size. All the feedback I have about switching to something smaller involves a batter tender. The 51r one has never let me down, even after sitting for a good long time with the alarm on.
Cool Charge Intercooler Duct
Here's an add that shows the two side by side: https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...-duct-1068554/
51r, a common Honda battery size. All the feedback I have about switching to something smaller involves a batter tender. The 51r one has never let me down, even after sitting for a good long time with the alarm on.
#30
You might want to PM TurboJeff and see if he has any extra battery trays. The fitment is very nice.
Otherwise Elite Rotary makes a smaller battery box for the PC680, IIRC. Braille doesn't list their batteries with common sizes, but you might be able to squeeze more power into the smaller format with a braille or similar by checking the measurements. They expensive, tho.
#31
If you haven't done your Radiator upgrade yet... I just pulled a like new Koyo N flow from my CYM when I went to the Greddy V mount. Havent listed it for sale yet. PM me an offer shipped. I will make you a fair deal on it.
Mike
Mike
#32
Originally Posted by ZoomZoom
If you haven't done your Radiator upgrade yet... I just pulled a like new Koyo N flow from my CYM when I went to the Greddy V mount. Havent listed it for sale yet. PM me an offer shipped. I will make you a fair deal on it.
Mike
Mike
Thanks for the offer. I sold a koyo to pick up this Ron Davis unit. Although I'm having urges to buy the ARC radiator and have that instead....OCD problems.
HUGE PICTURES ALERT! Resizing: ain't nobody got time for that!
Also working on "upgrading"/replacing the FD fans and motors with RX8 S2 units. Just need to wrap up the wiring and get them swapped in.
Saw a sweet old Ferrari, too. Seemed like the real deal, and no reason to doubt it around here. Now, how to get that much moneys....
#36
Haha thanks for the info and tips. Hoping I can catch up to your build a little bit!
Thanks! Gotta find some time to try my hand at pinning the connectors, or get a good crimper for the fans.
The Ron Davis is hard to argue with, but the ARC has internal fins or "micro tubes" as they call them. And, it's slightly thicker with nice quality.
MICRO TUBES!!!
All depends on who you get it from
The Ron Davis is hard to argue with, but the ARC has internal fins or "micro tubes" as they call them. And, it's slightly thicker with nice quality.
MICRO TUBES!!!
#37
Touche. I read that post from them right after I tried installing mine. I got a good deal on it though 270 I think, bought some smaller diameter coolant hose and an Re-A AST so I could change the lower fitting on it. I've read some people like to restrict flow to the AST from the rad for some reason but I can't recall why
#39
Touche. I read that post from them right after I tried installing mine. I got a good deal on it though 270 I think, bought some smaller diameter coolant hose and an Re-A AST so I could change the lower fitting on it. I've read some people like to restrict flow to the AST from the rad for some reason but I can't recall why
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...s-pill-984737/
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...or-why-714587/
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...k-days-910040/
I'll teach y'all a trick. If you go to google and type in "site:www.rx7club.com" and then put your search terms after that, it works better than the forum search
Let Me Google That For You
Google links are wonky, but the link above spells it out in case I wasn't clear in my explanation. That site is fun when people ask you general or easy questions at work. I've had it sent to me a few times
#40
That's a nice radiator and the RX8 fan upgrade makes me wish I did that with my build. My fans aren't bad but they are just starting to rust. Looks like something I will put on the long list to do at some point.
#41
Messing around with de-pinning and swapping the connectors of my donor rx7 fan motors and the new rx8 fan motors. Wanna wrap this up before dropping in the new radiator, and using the stall time to debate about the ARC rad. A few thoughts:
1. The new connectors are nicer (and easier to de-pin). If you're not into being super stock/reversible, I would consider trying to swap rx8 connectors onto the rx7 harness. I'd, personally, like to leave my stock harness stock.
2. De-pinning the old connectors is a pain in the butt, especially if you've never done it before. I never have. Almost made me wish I had cut and crimped.
3. For the FD clip. After you get the yellow clip off the back, there's a plastic pin holding the spade in place, and there's just enough room beside it to pry it up with a safety pin. Then you can use a small slotted screwdriver to force the old spades out the back. After you get one out the rest are less of a mystery. It helps free up the wires to cut the wire cover behind the plug.
4. For the RX8 clip. Pry out the rubber seal. Pry our the orange cover, with an angle pick or similar. The clips holding the spades are more visible, and easier to work with. There's no wire clip on the back and the wires are more supple, so you can pull them out the back pretty easy.
5. Need to find a source for the FD-style spades to crimp onto the new motors.
6. Need to get some new, non-rusty bolts for the new motors, and probably some loctite for the fan nuts.
7. There's a washer under the FD fan blades. It doesn't seem to go there on the RX8 fans, so I put it on top of the new blades under the fan nut. Will revisit before buttoning everything up.
8. The wires match colors, and that's the common guidance for re-wiring, so just gonna go with that. It might switch which fan speed turns on when, but as long as they all turn on...
9. I only did one of each, so I can take pictures and remember which colors go where on the connector.
10. Saw more cool cars: an amphicar with valid boat registration(never even seen one IRL, pretty sure), and a nice blue bugeye.
Here's a couple threads about the fans:
Mostly working in this one: https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...x7-fd-1085155/
Good info here, too: https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati.../#post12038066
I think this is mostly an aesthetic upgrade. The Rx8 fans may be slower, lighter, less amps, and with better fan blades to compensate. But, I got a nice new IC crossbar from Jim Ellis Mazda online, and I'd like non-rusty motors.
If they end up causing any trouble or not satisfying, I'll buy new FD motors, which are way more expensive as listed, if they're actually not NLA. Sometimes JEM lists parts you can't have, that tease.
I guess I'll have 2x both FD fan blades lying around, some non-molested FD motors, and an extra shroud.
1. The new connectors are nicer (and easier to de-pin). If you're not into being super stock/reversible, I would consider trying to swap rx8 connectors onto the rx7 harness. I'd, personally, like to leave my stock harness stock.
2. De-pinning the old connectors is a pain in the butt, especially if you've never done it before. I never have. Almost made me wish I had cut and crimped.
3. For the FD clip. After you get the yellow clip off the back, there's a plastic pin holding the spade in place, and there's just enough room beside it to pry it up with a safety pin. Then you can use a small slotted screwdriver to force the old spades out the back. After you get one out the rest are less of a mystery. It helps free up the wires to cut the wire cover behind the plug.
4. For the RX8 clip. Pry out the rubber seal. Pry our the orange cover, with an angle pick or similar. The clips holding the spades are more visible, and easier to work with. There's no wire clip on the back and the wires are more supple, so you can pull them out the back pretty easy.
5. Need to find a source for the FD-style spades to crimp onto the new motors.
6. Need to get some new, non-rusty bolts for the new motors, and probably some loctite for the fan nuts.
7. There's a washer under the FD fan blades. It doesn't seem to go there on the RX8 fans, so I put it on top of the new blades under the fan nut. Will revisit before buttoning everything up.
8. The wires match colors, and that's the common guidance for re-wiring, so just gonna go with that. It might switch which fan speed turns on when, but as long as they all turn on...
9. I only did one of each, so I can take pictures and remember which colors go where on the connector.
10. Saw more cool cars: an amphicar with valid boat registration(never even seen one IRL, pretty sure), and a nice blue bugeye.
Here's a couple threads about the fans:
Mostly working in this one: https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...x7-fd-1085155/
Good info here, too: https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati.../#post12038066
I think this is mostly an aesthetic upgrade. The Rx8 fans may be slower, lighter, less amps, and with better fan blades to compensate. But, I got a nice new IC crossbar from Jim Ellis Mazda online, and I'd like non-rusty motors.
If they end up causing any trouble or not satisfying, I'll buy new FD motors, which are way more expensive as listed, if they're actually not NLA. Sometimes JEM lists parts you can't have, that tease.
I guess I'll have 2x both FD fan blades lying around, some non-molested FD motors, and an extra shroud.
#42
You are doing good work. For all the effort and if you wanted to keep it stock reverseable a little easier you could have skipped the depinning and made yourself an adapter harness. Just a thought.
#43
This thread: https://www.rx7club.com/new-member-r...93-fd-1083985/
And, this thread: https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati.../#post12038066
Point here: 250 Housing Lance Armlock - ET type Connector with Tangless Terminals
for the s6 style connectors and spades
Picked up a bunch of s6 style spades from there(already have the spare connectors from the donor motors, but don't wanna re-use the spades), so hopefully I can crimp them on and swap the connectors. Looks promising.
From the other thread:
Also ordered some shiny hardware from JEM, including new fan motor screws. All this slow progress is killing me. Hopefully some new bolts and bits will be easy wins in the engine bay.
The weather turned nice over here, so need to wrap up the radiator business and go for a long drive ASAP.
Last edited by Narfle; 03-14-17 at 01:40 AM.
#44
Not having the connectors in front of me I would say to browse some sites that sell various Denso and Japanese connectors and see what you can match up.
Here is a start
https://www.driftmotion.com/category-s/1847.htm
And
https://www.aliexpress.com/popular/d...onnectors.html
And
https://www.densoproducts.com/Automo...cts-l1351.aspx
More
https://www.prowireusa.com/c-2-conne...FUpWDQodNp0KxQ
Also auction site search. And many, many other online sites.
Here is a start
https://www.driftmotion.com/category-s/1847.htm
And
https://www.aliexpress.com/popular/d...onnectors.html
And
https://www.densoproducts.com/Automo...cts-l1351.aspx
More
https://www.prowireusa.com/c-2-conne...FUpWDQodNp0KxQ
Also auction site search. And many, many other online sites.
#45
Have some of the s6 stuff on order to check if the "generic" stuff works with the FD harness.
Also found the rx8 s2 connectors, they're sumitomo:
??????:Sumitomo Wiring Systems, Ltd
??????:Sumitomo Wiring Systems, Ltd
If everything works out we could make some jumper harnesses. CycleTerminal is kindof dragging their feet on my order. So, might have to do some more sourcing there.
Here's another interesting connectors thread:
https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generati...ectors-877734/
Also found the rx8 s2 connectors, they're sumitomo:
??????:Sumitomo Wiring Systems, Ltd
??????:Sumitomo Wiring Systems, Ltd
If everything works out we could make some jumper harnesses. CycleTerminal is kindof dragging their feet on my order. So, might have to do some more sourcing there.
Here's another interesting connectors thread:
https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generati...ectors-877734/
#46
Have some of the s6 stuff on order to check if the "generic" stuff works with the FD harness.
Also found the rx8 s2 connectors, they're sumitomo:
??????:Sumitomo Wiring Systems, Ltd
??????:Sumitomo Wiring Systems, Ltd
If everything works out we could make some jumper harnesses. CycleTerminal is kindof dragging their feet on my order. So, might have to do some more sourcing there.
Here's another interesting connectors thread:
https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generati...ectors-877734/
Also found the rx8 s2 connectors, they're sumitomo:
??????:Sumitomo Wiring Systems, Ltd
??????:Sumitomo Wiring Systems, Ltd
If everything works out we could make some jumper harnesses. CycleTerminal is kindof dragging their feet on my order. So, might have to do some more sourcing there.
Here's another interesting connectors thread:
https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generati...ectors-877734/
#47
Have some of the s6 stuff on order to check if the "generic" stuff works with the FD harness.
Also found the rx8 s2 connectors, they're sumitomo:
??????:Sumitomo Wiring Systems, Ltd
??????:Sumitomo Wiring Systems, Ltd
If everything works out we could make some jumper harnesses. CycleTerminal is kindof dragging their feet on my order. So, might have to do some more sourcing there.
Here's another interesting connectors thread:
https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generati...ectors-877734/
Also found the rx8 s2 connectors, they're sumitomo:
??????:Sumitomo Wiring Systems, Ltd
??????:Sumitomo Wiring Systems, Ltd
If everything works out we could make some jumper harnesses. CycleTerminal is kindof dragging their feet on my order. So, might have to do some more sourcing there.
Here's another interesting connectors thread:
https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generati...ectors-877734/
#48
BTW, the link to the 09' thread still works for Eastern Beaver. Lots of cool stuff there for a wiring geek.
#49
Yeah, they seem cool. I placed a small order with them too, cause I hand't heard back from CT. But, then noticed the order minimum is $20(or maybe $10, confusing). Anyways, CT notified my they shipped my package of connectors and lances. Really hope it works out. Now I need a special crimper :/. Might have a gang of extra pieces if the Eastern Beaver order ships too. If everything looks legit I'll try to get those rx8 connectors too and make a jumper harness. The saga continues!
#50
Dave,
Here is another good resource for connectors. I was trying to remember this site as it's where I've bought some connectors and a wide band in the past.
https://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/in...lboda10nbm05n5
Here is another good resource for connectors. I was trying to remember this site as it's where I've bought some connectors and a wide band in the past.
https://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/in...lboda10nbm05n5