wow another one? U have a black, silver, blue and red now? lol Nice man. I have no idea what u do...but right now I want ur job...lol. I am in for this build as well.

 

Another one... but I no longer have the black one.. its gone and now I've heard its white And the red one will be some other color, which I'm still deciding on a color.

Job, I don't have a fancy job.. just don't spend it on stupid **** like I used to when I was younger (drugs, alcohol, cigs, etc). You'll be surprised what I used to spend on stupid stuff...

 

You are so right man! the little things always add up! I never had those bad habits but I firmly believe that people spend way to much money on crap! If everyone wrote down what they spend everyday they would see.

I chose to save every coin I get as change from anywhere in a container and have already bought a Scoot hood and a new radio within a year! And thats just from one years worth of pocket change!

 

Over the week, I been prepping the 20B for a test drop in in the new shell so the fabricator can make the V mount, turbo manifold (ditching my old one), and other things.

Anyhow, Here are some pics of the engine with Defined Autoworks mounting kit.







More pics later on today as the engine will is going in in 3 hours.

 

Very true!!! a lot of people ask me how I afford certain nice things. But I don't drink....and I don't smoke... And every last bit of spare change goes into one of 3 big glass jars. 5 cent jar, 10 cent Jar, or quarter/dollar coin jar. Last year it came out to 745 bucks and the quarter jar wasn't even full

So what are your plans for the 20b fd? what will you be using it for?

 

Good man!!! That's pretty much what I do... Only spurge I do is eating out and buying FD parts.. Besides that, I'm a simple person

Just trying to finally build my 3 rotor that I been wanting to build for like 7 years.. Now, I'm getting motivated and have a purpose to build it.

It will be more track inspired car and hopefully I'll do some track events and let my friends son do some time trials with it (he was a former enduro cart champ).

Anyhow, this morning, I had a chance to test fit the motor in the new shell...









There are some issues with the TB elbow and few other things.. The fabricator, Walker Morgan from www.MPFab.com is going to fix all the issues and build me an amazing V mount set up!!

 

Looking good as always Phil. The v mount should work great and I'd be interested in the temp readings you get. I've tried everything and am still concerned about engine temps.

 

been following this since page 5...so officially subscribed thanks to that 20B

 

I realize you've probably got a handle on this but ...if you're really interested in doing it right - keep in mind the drive-shaft angle. Those mounts look all kinds of wrong in respect to setting the height of the engine. I've spent a lot of time under my 20b cars with different ideas on setting the height of the engine in relationship to the rear diff in stock form (rear sub-frame).

again, i'm sure you've got a handle on it but ..badness will likely go wrong and eat up time & money if ya dont correct it early on.

 

Yeah, I did think about that before I got this kit... but not sure if small degree is going to make that much of an issue.

I think the kit raises by 1 inch or so?? Lets say the height maintains from the engine back to end of the transmission.. which that height to the diff, and the length of diff is say 30 inch or so (I think longer), its still less than 2 degrees off.

I guess I'll find out.. worst can happen is break the tranny or diff (which I got a spare of both).

 

Here is some mullet links to get the idea:

http://www.wolferacecraft.com/pinionangle.aspx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gruRAzTaBrA

 

Jason,

Not sure if you also consider the fact that FD's have something called Powerplant frame which links transmission to the diff.. It will line up the drive shaft better by connecting the transmission and diff as one unit "like". I personally don't think I'll have any issues with it but if I start to, I would try to fix by diff placement vs. trying to re-engineer steering and sub frame etc.

 

Oh neat, a power plant frame? where is that found on the car?

I guess I should buy some tools and work on the cars myself huh?

 

Why don't you go with the cobra 8.8 conversion? Does away with the PPF and wheel hop.

 

Now it makes sense about your posts

If you got time, I suggest you do that

Naw, I thought about that few years ago when JimLab was building those.. But it might be an over kill and I have so many transmissions and diffs I rather go through them myself before deciding if I need to do cobra conversion.

 

You know Justin Samberg makes a full bolt in kit right? It's not a prototype or anything like that. You can order one right now. I have it on my car and it's becoming the standard on norotors. You can use for factory transmission as well. You'd need a new driveshaft though. You could buy the whole diff unit and DSS level 5 axles for the cost of an aftermarket FD diff. I just figured with a high powered 20b turbo, you're gonna be poppin diffs left and right.

 

Yeah, I saw that they were making those kit. Like I said, I did think about it.. But I also wanted to experiment and see how quick I could destroy/last a stock tranny and diff. Also, I'm not going to be launching this car so I think it might be ok... We shall see.

 

I think you'll be fine. I'd add a TweakIt or PFS cradle if you want some insurance.

 

Happy Cyber Monday everyone

Yeah, I agree with you... I think it will be fine..


I don't have much update as I did absolutely nothing over the holidays.. I'm going to start working on the SSM FD for engine swap and suspension swap.. then going to tear down my MB.

 

I guess I should update this thread a bit...

Here is what I been doing since...

December 6th, 2011 I got a call from my fabricator and he said he checked on the pricing for the Stainless 321 and going to order some for the new manifold set up. This means, my old SS 321 manifold with Racing Beat header flange is for sale!!! If you are interested let me know

Here are pics of my old flange set up!

Here are the pics and placement of the turbo.. Turbonetic T76.





In the car with Hinson 20B /Pettit Subframe with this manifold with Garret T76 with T3 flange.










December 8th, 2011 - My fabricator/friend Walker Morgan has explain to me how he was going to build the new 20B manifold. We've decided to use bit more expensive, 321 Stainless for the new manifold. I'm excited to see how its going to turn out!! Until then, I need to start working on the wiring for the car..

Here is a translated DSSC wiring diagram... Only one in the WORLD!!!




December 13, 2011 - I didn't get much accomplished over the weekend... Kid, wife, holiday season, plus my old house that i'm trying to get rid of is sucking all my spare time I have.

Yesterday, I finally ordered my new wheels for this car from WORK Wheels.



I'll most likely use these on the street and my RAYS/VOLK RE30s on the track.

WORK CR Ultimate is their newest Emotion Series that are much lighter and stronger than previous CR series. I'm super excited to get them and now they are available in 10.5 width.

 

again...hate you and love you at the same time....

 

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So we're going to see this bad boy on the Dragon this coming year huh Phil ?

 

Eddie, you know when its done I'm going to let you drive it right??

I highly doubt this thing will make it to DGRR.... I'm also waiting on few things so it might take longer than expected.

Anyhow, more update

December 16th, 2011 - I've received some sneak peek pictures of the turbo manifold yesterday. Walker Morgan from www.MPFab.com did an excellent job.

Here are few pics from the pics he sent me!









Its made with Stainless 321, which Walker did his magic on them to look like this... Not sure if many of you seen how 321 comes form suppliers, but they looked horrible.

I'm heading over to the shop on monday to take some high res pictures with my dslr and also bring him the mid pipe and catback for him to test fit to make the DP.

Those of you who haven't heard of MPFab.com, he has worked on several exhaust systems for high end SEMA cars and custom hot rods. He also developed turbo kids for bikes and other sport compact cars.


For more information about them, go visit: www.MPFab.com

December 19th, 2011 - I went by MPFab.com this morning to drop off my titanium catback and a midpipe so, he can start working on the turbo placement and DP. I also had a chance to take a look at Walker's handy work. Man was I impress with his fabrication skills

Here are some better pics I've taken.







I have yet to see bottom mount turbo set up on a rotary and I'm excited to see how all is going to turn out!

 

Manifold looks awesome.

Twins Turbo has done a few bottom mount manifolds for FD's before:

http://www.twinsturbo.com/index.php?...Itemid=9&gid=3

http://www.twinsturbo.com/index.php?...temid=9&gid=17