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Old 02-24-14 | 01:01 PM
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Timing seems to be a recurring theme these days. I'm having timing issues on my FB also, nothing as technical as your problem though. Seems I need to weld the weights in the distributor (got rid of vacuum advance decades ago) and set the timing to 20 - 24 deg. Reason I found this out is because on the last dyno run I realized that my curve is really flat and I only got 185 rwhp with the new carb setup and direct fire ignition. That only represents a 20hp gain over the 'stock' figure I posted 3 months ago and nowhere close to the potential of the current arrangement. Have to do the research to find out if I can handle the welding bit myself or if I need to go to the shop and get it done.
Post a video of the monster running when you get a chance!
Old 02-24-14 | 01:09 PM
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BC the other shoe

On a better note, this is the second part of my never-ending project. Rebuilt 13bt, T2 tranny, BW366 turbo, Microtech LT8 (going Adaptronic in the near future), water-meth injection kit A whole storage locker full of goodies!
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Old 02-24-14 | 01:16 PM
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just looked at the prior page, i will read up on your build tonight. i run a V88 and it works fine... i assume you have logged this issue. what do the logs show?

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Old 02-25-14 | 05:40 AM
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marcel, you've done this already? i have seen different values needed for this between a 13b and a 20b, i'll dig up my settings later on and post them up for you to compare with, howard can you do the same so we can get this thing up and running and making some stupid amounts of power!!!

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Old 03-04-14 | 01:41 PM
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Yes I sucessfully completed that procedure , first I physically verified TDC at the crank/pulley and locked the ECU to TDC (set maps to 0 deg and have TDC mark lined up perfectly with pointer) , after this I looked for the -20ATDC mark following the above procedure and it to lined up perfectly. Just to be sure I also visuslly compared the trigger wheel marking positions with an old drawing I have from HALTECH and it was spot on.
Old 03-12-14 | 08:16 PM
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Success at last !!! the problem turned out to be a damaged power wire to primary injector #1 ! I used a pre-assempled connector so i am not sure if it was purchased like this or if it happened during installation. I came across this by chance too , whilst conducting checks on the injectors (for the millionth time!) I could not determine which of the two primaries were clicking so I proceeded to snip one of the wires on the #1 (since i realized that I connected the secondary wrongly and would have to remove the entire intake manifold to correct it), as I touched it with the pliars it shorted out and burnt a main fuse ! I realized what was going on and looked at the wire more closely only to see that it was ALMOSTt completely severed which would explain why I was getting good voltage when tested ,but obviously at higher operating frequencies delivery of the correct amperage to the injector would become a problem (as i experienced for soo long!).
Old 03-12-14 | 11:19 PM
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Awesome to hear! told you it would be something simple; now on with the progress!!!!

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Old 03-15-14 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by brad89au
Awesome to hear! told you it would be something simple; now on with the progress!!!!

Brad.
Sorry to disappoint but the problem still persists , I am going to send the ECU back to ViPec to be checked out.
Old 03-17-14 | 12:57 PM
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Damn! Sorry to hear that you didnt rectify the car's issues by repairing the power wire to the injector. At least now you've confirmed that everything else is ok and the ECU is the issue. The process of elimination wins again!
Old 03-17-14 | 04:04 PM
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Hey sorry but I have to rewind a few pages.. Did you get your coil on plug ignition and the traction control from rice racing?
Old 03-17-14 | 04:08 PM
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hmmm... just out of curiosity..have you thought about going with Adaptronic?
Old 03-18-14 | 09:32 PM
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marce another issue i had when trying to get my engine going after wiring in my LINK was the injector wiring, i had them ****-about-face, for example i had prim1 and sec1 wired up as prim1 and prim2 so it was trying to idle on two injectors on the one cylinder. a quick use of the injector test feature showed where i had gone wrong.

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Old 03-25-14 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by brad89au
marce another issue i had when trying to get my engine going after wiring in my LINK was the injector wiring, i had them ****-about-face, for example i had prim1 and sec1 wired up as prim1 and prim2 so it was trying to idle on two injectors on the one cylinder. a quick use of the injector test feature showed where i had gone wrong.

Hello Brad , this possibility was considered awhile ago and the injector wiring double and tripple checked and found to be correct. last sunday we installed a brebnd new V88 and got the same issues!I am going to swap out the NEW injectors for the old school BOSCH ones to see if this ia a factor.
Old 04-04-14 | 12:46 PM
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UREKA!!!! turns out the issue was really located at the NEW ID 1000 primary injectors but it wasn't what I thought! After pulling the intake manifold apart I removed the primary rail to access and swap out the injectors for some old 450s to see if anything would change. With the rail in hand I pulled out the ID's and looked into the injector bores in the fuel rail , to see that the alignment between the fuel rail and the injector bores was grossly off(the injector tops left an impression in the aluminum ) , causing the injector bores to be blocked by the rail reducing the hole by approximately 70%!!! this was a strangely EXCELLENT find !! .After drying my eyes I quickly got my pencil grinder and opened up the bores in the rail to restore the alignment , re-assembled it all and ..............sure enough it started right up and idled in the 13,s!!!! IT FINALLY WORKS!!!! I think I need to take the blame for all the heart ache though , the manufacturer of the fuel rail makes an excellent product , but because I am running an aftermarket intake manifold set I had to make custom supports/spacers for the primary rail , apparently this threw off the alignment of the bores , goes to show that everything should be checked and re-checked especially when making modifications to stuff! Thanks every one for you interest and assistance.
Old 04-04-14 | 02:30 PM
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Great news. Sometimes it's such a small thing that causes big head aches. Now let's see some videos and data
Old 04-04-14 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcel Burkett
UREKA!!!! turns out the issue was really located at the NEW ID 1000 primary injectors but it wasn't what I thought! After pulling the intake manifold apart I removed the primary rail to access and swap out the injectors for some old 450s to see if anything would change. With the rail in hand I pulled out the ID's and looked into the injector bores in the fuel rail , to see that the alignment between the fuel rail and the injector bores was grossly off(the injector tops left an impression in the aluminum ) , causing the injector bores to be blocked by the rail reducing the hole by approximately 70%!!! this was a strangely EXCELLENT find !! .After drying my eyes I quickly got my pencil grinder and opened up the bores in the rail to restore the alignment , re-assembled it all and ..............sure enough it started right up and idled in the 13,s!!!! IT FINALLY WORKS!!!! I think I need to take the blame for all the heart ache though , the manufacturer of the fuel rail makes an excellent product , but because I am running an aftermarket intake manifold set I had to make custom supports/spacers for the primary rail , apparently this threw off the alignment of the bores , goes to show that everything should be checked and re-checked especially when making modifications to stuff! Thanks every one for you interest and assistance.

Nice, glad to see you got it running, im also running a Projay Typhoon and when I talked to Jay @ Projay he told me that the Typhoon intake was really design not to use primary rail, but I anyways went ahead and installed one since im only running 6 ijectors at this time and didnt want to run the outer projay rail. Im using the Cj motorsport primary fuel rail for 48mm ID1000 and all i had to do it was shave about 1/8" from one of the sides of the 8an adapter fitting lock nut that i had to use to convert the rails from 6an to 8an.

Any videos of the startup.
Old 04-07-14 | 05:52 PM
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Nice, glad to see you got it running, im also running a Projay Typhoon and when I talked to Jay @ Projay he told me that the Typhoon intake was really design not to use primary rail, but I anyways went ahead and installed one since im only running 6 ijectors at this time and didnt want to run the outer projay rail. Im using the Cj motorsport primary fuel rail for 48mm ID1000 and all i had to do it was shave about 1/8" from one of the sides of the 8an adapter fitting lock nut that i had to use to convert the rails from 6an to 8an.

Any videos of the startup.
Hello there , would you happen to have any photos showing the fitment?
Old 05-14-14 | 06:59 PM
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Hey Marcel, glad to hear that you solved that issue with your injectors and fuel rail. Looking forward to seeing a video clip of that monster in action!
Old 02-09-15 | 06:51 PM
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Any updates marcel?
Old 02-10-15 | 06:50 PM
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Man I'm pumped to see this up at the top with a final fix!!! GO MARCEL!!!!
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