While I have seen Gonzz post before and believe he isn't as bad a guy as these people are making him out to be, I do believe that when something is advertised as "shipped", it should be insured by the seller, unless specified IN THE FS THREAD that insurance is not included. PMs can be altered when you post them on here for everyone to see, a thread post can not. And as I said before, shitty packaging is just plain lazy. If that is the case and the seller knows he packed an item like shit(that insurance won't cover), a refund should be in order. The fact that Gonzz says he sent blue assemblies, and the thread starter is calling them black, seems kind of fishy to me... someone is lying...

I'm not attempting to hop into the negative energy that's very obvious in this thread, I don't need to be told how much of an idiot or loser I am from either side, I'm just stating what I believe good business ethics to be.

On that note, maybe some of you should take into consideration that one of these guys has been a member since 2002, with mulitple previous sales...

You know what's funny is I was just looking at a pic of your car 5 min ago...

Thats funny. Gonzz, thats the "flamethrower".

This is al internet ganster crap. One word vs another, never to be solved. Next time get it all in writing, including insurance. I've had many "properly" packaged items come like crap, so it may not be packaging.

Hey goodfells, I'm I that much taller then you?

That's not mine, you have no proof...






:lol:

Nice shorts, John:rofl:

Again, the insurance is not the issue. Insurance, as already stated, will not address a claim when the cause of damage is improper packaging. The perception by the buyer, well, I agree with you on that part, but I also think that sellers need to be telling their buyers if they are not including insurance, for the same reason. Both sides should be covering all the bases, and in this case neither side did.

however, once again, this does not address the fact that gonzz told this seller one thing once the problem was discovered, and then changed his story entirely to favor his side of the argument later on. That's dishonest, and in the interest of fairness, no matter what you think of gonzz, there should be no dishonesty in such a transaction, from either side. That is inexcuseable in my book.

As far as the insults, take a good hard look at the way this thread has gone. Do you see anyone insulting gonzz in the manner he is trying to trash others? Anyone bringing his parents into the mix? What about what he owns? Anyone? There is a reason why I dont follow suit there, and thats because this thread is here for a purpose. Talking about someone's dad isnt it. I point-blank addressed a specific thing he did and asked him to address it--would YOU trust someone you didnt personally know with your money in the future if you saw them handling such a point as poorly as he is?

There is no need for that shit and there never was--NOWHERE did I pull that garbage on him. In the end, everyone can see the lie and how he refuses to address it.

On a final note, with all due respect, this forum has progressed to the point where a person's past reputation is not indicative of their future reliability. More and more we have seen people who were trusted sellers, turn around and screw someone. Hey, it sucks but it happens. And in this case, some honesty would have gone a long way. Too bad for him that insulting anything under the sun is more important than addressing the issue like a man.

Is Rich in the pic?

roller get a life and stop living off this post!

Which one is goodfella? I never pictured him looking like anybody in that pic

Well, you heard the WRONG fucking story. I've never screwed anyone in my life, period. I have morals and ethics, and make customer service my top priority. If I'm taking people's hard-earned money for parts or labor, thats the least I can do, right?

And I sure as shit am not hiding behind a computer, I've been in situations in Iraq as a convoy commander that would make most people shit their pants......

Edit: That's me in the red shirt.

Timothyandygoh, can you please post pics of the broken parts?

Gonzz,you are completely fighting with people over nothing pertaining to this subject.i really do not recommend getting into "e-brawl" with a very respected member such as rich. If the buyer shows proof of what he is claiming...this thread made take a completely different direction. Just wait it out...

Duchebag: Do you understand English.. GET THE FUK OUT OF HERE.. Do i have to type it in every fuking language? Are you that fuken stupid? Your a fuken moron...

Timothyandygoh, can you please post pics of the broken parts?

I agree, this needs to be settled.

I'm done. Rich, you coming to the Bear Moutain meet this Saturday (just to highjack a little)

well, there's already proof that this seller isnt telling the truth along the way. That needs to be addressed as well. Wait it out, sure, I want to see those pics as much as anyone, but seriously, do you really mean to tell me that this jackass is justified in the way he has acted here? I dont give a shit how "well respected" someone is---when they act like this much of a retard they dont deserve respect. Its that simple.

Hell, you and I got into it in your thread, didnt we? Did I pull shit like this? insult your dad, post up bullshit pics?? Sure, I am a rude jackass, but at least the focus stayed on the problem at hand. When this dipshit learns to do the same, maybe that will earn some respect. In the meantime, respect is earned, and no matter how long someone is here, they are still just as responsible for their actions as anyone else. When I asked you about points in your transaction, you were likewise at least decent enough to argue the issue, not run around talking out your ass all day long. This dumbass isnt. That is why there is no respect. Damn, the moron even follows me around into other threads and hijacks them just to watch his e-wee-wee grow like a chia pet....so please, dont talk to me about how this guy is so well respected.

someday, when youre not a widdle boy anymore and youre all grown up, you might just have a forum of your very own, like this one. And if you do, at that time, you will have all the freedom in the world to tell anyone you want to get out of any thread you like, and it just might mean something.

Sorry to tell you, in this forum, you dont have that ability. Dont cry over it, just man up and address the points. Seriously, is that really so hard for you? Why cant you just knock this shit off and discuss the issue that this thread is about? If you have nothing to hide, why cant you address it?

Roller, me and you did get into a little bit, but it stayed on subject and died. I didnt say gonzz was right, i didnt say he was wrong. For all we know, this guy could he lieing out his ass, and gonzz is COMPLETELY right(dont rip me up, just throwing stuff out there) I would like to see the pics, and we will go from there. Let it get back on subject.

another thing...i dont think you read my post right.(or you read it before the edit, i mixed names up) I was referring to gonzz getting into it with rich, not you.

I say everyone keeps their mouths shut untill we have pictures. As the he said/she said method has never proved to be successful.

You might be too slow to realize, but you YOURSELF labeled the transaction as "HORRIBLE".


I just LOVE how I paid you for a part, haven't received ANYTHING for 2 months, and finally now YOU'RE the one pushing me to start a negative feedback thread.


You have got to be the best damn seller on this forum. No questions asked :uhh:



P.S. Sorry guys I wasn't tryin' to start this in your thread. I'll try and stop now unless Merlin feels the need to keep pushing me forward.

I don't believe that people just "turn bad". Where I can see a person making errors once or twice, I highly doubt he just woke up and said "I've got a good reputation now, let me see how many people I can fuck over".

While I'm not calling TAG a liar, take in mind that nobody knows him, he's been here for a few months, and people who know Gonzz are actually standing up for him. TAG, as I said, this is not singling you out, I am just pointing out the fact that you are new to the forums. That said, just because 1 person is new and the other is a "veteran"(lol), doesn't make the new person wrong OR a liar... I'm just trying to point out some of the obvious facts that it really appears that people have overlooked... I'd be extremely pissed too if people started shitting on my good name, I probably wouldn't resort to direct name calling, but it isn't something I would just ignore...

Guys, if you're going to make a thread, make a thread... I feel like I'm following 2 stories here...

Lets hear about this one. Since his reputation is "flawless" :rlaugh:

you make good points.

but this goes so far beyond someone "shitting on his good name". gonzz is so hung up on shit that he drops into threads where he has no involvement at all, just to hijack the thread and make personal attacks. And all that started in a thread that took place LAST YEAR. I have had no contact with this guy ever since....and before I even posted in this one, he was acting like a little bitch in someone else's thread. So, again, when it comes to respect, it should be easy to see why I dont have any for him. He's still butt hurt because I called him on shit last year?? WOW....some people really need to get a clue.

And no, I dont think that he intentionally set out to screw anyone. I never even came close to saying as much. The problem I mentioned is that he made a claim to cover his ass, and that turned out to be a lie. A person who genuinely feels he did nothing wrong will not feel the need to lie to cover his ass....dont you agree?

I gotcha....but for the sake of saying, I never took this off the subject. The fact that gonzz got caught lying is directly relevant to this thread, because that happened in this transaction.

Where did he make a claim that was a proven lie? This isn't a sarcastic question, I just don't feel like reading all of these pages again to find out where it was he lied about something and was called out on it, I must have missed it.

I have dealt with Gonzz before, but not as a buyer, as a seller. He bought some shirts from me in order to raise money for our dearest friend GuitarJunkie, which passed away. I also met Gonzz in person at the funeral and he seemed like a real cool guy. He also donated a lot of money in return for some decals in Dave's memory so I can assure you that Gonzz wouldn't try to rip someone off for $140, which isn't even that much. That said, everyone else here talking shit should just stop because it seems like no one really knows the TRUE FACTS about what's going on. It seems like people are just coming in here and trying to argue about something to make themselves seem better or something. And for all those people, why get in an argument with someone over something that doesn't even involve you? Stay out of their business if you really have nothing good to say.

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I totally agree... You think I need to rip someone offfor 140.00 give me a fuking break.. I gamble 10X that every week in Vegas...

He can't help it.. He's a inch Certified PI.....Mrs. Fix it all... Post a pic of your internet badge..lol

Where does this RXroller duche live? Anyone know??

As pissed off about the situation as you are, perhaps you should approach it in a different manner? I really don't think that name calling is going to accomplish anything...

And it must be nice to be able to gamble all the time, the nearest casino to me is over 2 hours away:(

I'm just sick and tired of this guy.. None on the forum likes him.. He's just a lurch and troll swimming in the good guy/bad guy section... I'm done till the thread started posts the pics. I know for a fact he's be online and won't post yet. I'm sorry to tell him the paint is a one of a kind mixture.. Can't buy it.. He's fuked...

This thread has gotten completly out of line. That timmothy guy needs to post up some pics. Hes been online and still hasnt posted any. I know lots of people have the excuse of there digital camera ran out of batteries or they dont have one, but in this day and age how can you NOT have a cam to post some pics. Damn cell phones have cameras on them now.

Turbo2FC3S pointed it right on the button, no matter what Merlin says, thats what defines character. (oh and by the way, you need a new laptop, dell sucks!!) and Im glad to see 2 people agreeing with you on your "flawless transaction" history.

Hey Roller, just one more thing. About that turbo transaction, the ad was posted as sold on 1/2/07. The PMs show them talking about trying to come to a conclusion with the turbo on 1/22/07, then on 2/5/07 the transaction was fixed. You said 2 months had gone by but thats like 2 weeks or am I missing something?


But anyways, back on topic, We really do need to see pics. I can defintly vouch for Gonzz underhood paintjob being a unique blue.

Not even gonna address the other stuff as I'd like just this one question answered. The name calling and general childishness that Gonzz has shown in not only this thread but others as well, that doesn't speak at all about what sort of character he has?

We will see in your bad guy thread and we can do the same shit to you.. Let's see what u post.... Get ready.. What's your excuse? 2 months and no parts? Explain and don't keep dodging.. lol

Its an internet forum, you fail to realize that. Its like someone judging me, saying im a horrible person if I went into an AOL chatroom and started talking crazy shit. If his character is so bad to you, how does he have so many people that stand up for him and vouch for him (a good majority of them are people that know him in person)??

I don't care if he's well respected or not. Did you read the post he did. If this is a "well respected person" He wouldn't have done that. I have never met him or bought anything from him or vise-versa... And I never will after that crazy comment. And I really don't care what anyone thinks...This is what he wrote...

Bullshit.

Packing parts like this is totally unacceptable.

Gonzz, grab your balls to remind yourself you're a man, and do the right thing. You fucked up, now take care of the situation.

*sarcasm*Can't pack a part for shit? What's your excuse? Cardboard's too expensive for you? Explain and don't keep dodging, lol olol lololol!111!*sarcasm*

Moron.

Well then if he wants to act like that, he shouldn't be surprised when people judge him by what he says. If people act like idiots, no matter the place, time, or forum, then they should expect to get treated like idiots. He also shouldn't get pissy when he gets it dished out to him instead of the other way around.

Where is the pics of the packaging? Show me.. then i will shut up... At least i sent him his shit.. Unlike what u do..

Your the FUKING idiot.. Dirtbag

Where is your proof??? I'm waiting.. Go ask your buddy roller-wannabe

Just from reading this post I know your a idiot.. Cardboard is to expensive.. What a fuking loser..

Yup, and I still stand by it. I fucking HATE thieves and scammers, and have reached my limit watching people get screwed on this forum. You sent the part out to him, meaning you're neither a thief nor a scammer. But you (allegedly) packed the parts like shit and they got damaged in transit, and it sure looks like you're out to screw the buyer. Why can't you take care of the situation like an adult? Am I missing something here? Did you pack the parts properly and securely?

I sat by and said nothing during the other two goatfuck threads you were involved in. I've also shaken my head watching your profane and immature posts. You won't buy parts from me? I wouldnt waste my time selling them to you.

Wow, this thread has gone to shit, kinda.. However pictures need to be posted on this thread to make the OP's position right. Since I havent seen any pictures im going to have to go with Gonzz on this one. The OP could be pulling shit out of his ass to try and re-claim money because he's "broke." Again, just an idea.


Gonzz, Roller isnt bashing you or degrading you or anything..Hes not an internet badass or nothing along those lines. As long as Ive been on this forum the BOTH of you have been well respected people in my eyes. :icon_tup: I can tell that hes pointing the finger but theres no need for the name calling or trash talking..You've made a good case and now we wait for pictures.

Lets all sit in a circle and sing CUMBIYA!!!!!!:Wconfused

Did you mysteriously get pics sent to you in a PM or email that were all missing here? If so please post them up.

You think I care u have 10 billion posts.. You think u scare me.. Like I said 100 times.. If you have a problem with me I will be at 7 stock. Back row just like the last 10 years...I'm done talking to you..

You are accusing me of sending this package all fuked up.. LEt's see the pictures Rich? Put up or shut up... I'm tired of FUKING waiting......

I thought you were done talking to him?

You know, threads like this scare me... if some guy joins next month, and comes in talking shit about me, saying I sent him bogus parts or something, would everyone attack me?! This thread has turned into nothing but childish name calling and call outs, and it all started with a thread that has NO PICTURES!!!

Have any of you realized that people that weren't involved in the transaction are talking shit about people that were in it?! My posts were "what if" situations, this bashing is ridiculous, and needs to stop. Let's act like fucking human beings, not animals. I want to see some FUCKING PICTURES!!! Damn...

The Vegas/LA crew is gonna have some real fun this year @ 7 stock..Can't wait..

when the buyer first got ahold of him and told him of the problem, this was his reply:


--his first response to this buyer was "you never mentioned anything about insurance, and I let my buyers bring that up..."

Then, a little later into this mess, gonnz posts this:

Now, let me ask you a serious question here. I just agreed to buy a part from you. When it gets to my house, it is damaged, so I call you. IF YOU REALLY DID ASK ME ABOUT INSURANCE ON THE PHONE PRIOR TO COMPLETING THE SALE, would you then say to me:

1--"I'll call DHL, but you didnt request insurance. I leave that up to the buyer to let me know if they want it or not, and you never said anything...."

OR, would you say this:

2--hey, I dont know what to say, I offered you insurance and you decided not to take it....

That is clearly someone changing their story. If I offered you insurance and you declined, you can bet your ass that my reply to a damaged part would be "hey, I offered you the insurance, but you didnt want to pay for it..." That simply does not add up in my book. Thats what the insurance is there for, no? So, if you are offered it and refuse it, then let the chips fall where they may, at that point, the seller is really off the hook in my book, and I think most people would agree.

All this time, I have been asking gonzz to address this, I surely didnt make it up. but he would rather flex his e-physique in the mirror than handle this like an adult, so I leave it to you to come to your own conclusion about just why an honest person would have to change his tune like this.