New billet center ENGINE PLATE.............. by turbosmart

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Old 08-27-08 | 08:07 PM
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Exclamation New billet center ENGINE PLATE.............. by turbosmart




Old 08-27-08 | 08:21 PM
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This should go in the 20b section .

BTW, im drooling
Old 08-27-08 | 08:22 PM
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looks **** its not even bridge ported


So the story is this is rohan from Xtreme rotaries plate here in Australia and turbosmart have put there name on it howevet they deny him having any involvement in it!!!! Only time will tell. maybe this is why PAC's engine sounds so different to all the other 20b's out there!!!!

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Old 08-27-08 | 08:29 PM
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so who the hell built it? or does turbosmart just not want to make anymore?
Old 08-27-08 | 08:51 PM
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no i do believe turbosmart are produceing it in terms of maching i just dont believe they designed it like they were claim at this years jamboree



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Old 08-27-08 | 08:55 PM
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What price?
Old 08-27-08 | 09:00 PM
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There are pics of the prototype plate Rohan did and it was a 2 piece design that was supposed to be joined together with a oring... What about the Aluminum plate on the 4rotor Rx3, who built that??
Old 08-27-08 | 09:01 PM
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wouldnt tell me just said to ring on monday for a price i will try find out for you guys i will make the call not gonna be cheap though but as you well know they are running out!!!! i know i guys here that has 2 full sets of plates then i dont know after that!!!


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What are the advantages of it?
Old 08-28-08 | 10:19 AM
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What are the advantages of it?
it should be stronger than the cast iron plate.
above 33 psi the factory plates start cracking.these ones should hold together
so basically they are for serious drag engines only....
Old 08-28-08 | 10:54 AM
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what about wear on the face?? Wonder if its coated with anything to prevent excessive wear on the aluminum..
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what about wear on the face?? Wonder if its coated with anything to prevent excessive wear on the aluminum..

I doesn't appear to be coated. Drag engines don't really run for very long and the side and corner seals springs don't put much pressure against the seals. If something like this were designed for street use, I'm sure the surface would look different or coated.
Old 08-29-08 | 02:58 AM
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could be hard anodised maybe?.....
Old 08-29-08 | 04:45 AM
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an all aluminum 20b sounds mighty good to me
Old 08-29-08 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RoTaRyBoYz
what about wear on the face?? Wonder if its coated with anything to prevent excessive wear on the aluminum..
It would have to be imho.
Given the high price of such a part, I don't think anyone would consider it a disposable by having to replace the housing every so often. Racing Beat hardens and then flame sprays their housing and claim greater wear resistance than the stock housings. I do not see why these couldn't/shouldn't be done the same way.

I'd hope you could get it without any side ports.

These are probably almost 20-25 lbs. lighter than the cast iron housing.
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I talked to someone who has all the info on it..

Yes, it is flame sprayed..

Better than the Racing Beat stuff becuase it is CNC BILLET and not a casting like the Racing Beat stuff.. I am working on getting one.....
Old 08-29-08 | 06:23 PM
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You are doing better than me then Japan2LA! I was talking to the guys there & they really had no idea! They "couldnt" tell me what, if any coating / hardening process was being used. They couldnt tell me a price. I basically got the impression they they had just knocked them up to display at jambo to see how much interest there was in them! They were trying to tell me they had them running in 3 cars for over a year & that the MX6 has been running if for that long also..... Sorry, but I just didnt believe it at all!
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Yes... all in who you know... Made a phone call and got all the info I needed.. I did hear that it has been in a car and running for over a year and there is no reason not to believe that it has.. So its a proven part.. Like I said working on getting one.. I'll post up more pics once it is in my hands.. Soon I hope...
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wow, that would be nice, one because once all the cast iron housings are worn out and gone, thats it, so somthing aftermarket to replace them would be nice so we can keep 20b's around, and two because the weight savings would be nice, 20b's are f'ing heavy. cant wait to get some more info on this
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Yes... all in who you know... Made a phone call and got all the info I needed.. I did hear that it has been in a car and running for over a year and there is no reason not to believe that it has.. So its a proven part.. Like I said working on getting one.. I'll post up more pics once it is in my hands.. Soon I hope...


Could you find out if there are plans to make regular aluminum side plates? I would love to build a complete engine with them.
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There's no reason to believe this couldn't work quite well as long as it's designed well. However it'll be so cost prohibitive that 99.9% of the people "interested" in it who are drooling all over it will complain as they won't want to pay for it. Has it ever been any other way here?
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
There's no reason to believe this couldn't work quite well as long as it's designed well. However it'll be so cost prohibitive that 99.9% of the people "interested" in it who are drooling all over it will complain as they won't want to pay for it. Has it ever been any other way here?
Sounds like a Dr. Phil statement ....

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I'm guessing ~$4500
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Wouldn't that be nice.

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Originally Posted by rotarygod
There's no reason to believe this couldn't work quite well as long as it's designed well. However it'll be so cost prohibitive that 99.9% of the people "interested" in it who are drooling all over it will complain as they won't want to pay for it. Has it ever been any other way here?

True but in the future, I plan on purchasing a 4 rotor crank kit. If I'm willing to spend the money on something like that, then I'm willing to go the distance. Would love to make the engine as light and as bulletproof as possible.

Edit. I'm also awaiting for results on this item below. A 4 rotor that weighs the same as a two rotor with over 10k redline? Now sign me the f*ck up.

http://www.eastcoastparts.com/html/billet_rotor.html

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