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Old 07-13-04, 03:24 PM
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wha'ts required to drop a 13b n/a in an FD?

i know there's major modifications to drop a 13brew into a FC......im assuming it'd be just about the same vice versa to drop a 13b n/a into an FD correct?
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I'm assuming cost and reliability, but than again any conversion isn't exactly cost efficient.
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and then we all ask why would you do that in the first place??
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and then we all ask why would you do that in the first place??
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If you want an NA in a FD for reliability then you don't need a FD.

If you want an NA in a FD for a Race Car, then you are on the right track.
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i have an n/a engine, i like the FD body better than the FC body.......i dont need the $$$ to keep a twin turbo setup running reliably....

any that can answer my original questions?
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Originally posted by Zer0 Cylinder
i have an n/a engine, i like the FD body better than the FC body.......i dont need the $$$ to keep a twin turbo setup running reliably....

any that can answer my original questions?
nope..buy an fc or fb
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Unbolt the turbos, install header, remove IC and piping. If your motivated you can strip all the crap under the UIM too...

DONE.

I'm not sure on the HP but it'd probably be around 160 crank. If you rebuilt the motor it'd be a good idea to put in the higher compression 89+ NA rotors. A PFC or other aftermarket ECU would help tune the car for more NA power. Otherwise it'll run fine with the stock ECU NA although I'm sure you'll lose some power.

The secondary injectors are bigger than you need, so if you got the PFC you may be able to put in some 550cc or smaller in the secondaries to enhance fine tuning.
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Maybe you could swap a na 3 rotor in there?
I couldnt imagine driving my FD around all the time feeling like i blew a intercooler pipe off. Hell, just today i was only seeing 7 psi and I was thinkin "damn this this is slow"
Now my question, does going 3 psi in the other direction make as much of a difference as 3 psi loss?

I guess I'll just have to find out next month.
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well another thing you can do along striping the turbo stuff and putting high compression rotors is with carbs. but you will be sorry.
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Originally posted by Zer0 Cylinder
i have an n/a engine, i like the FD body better than the FC body.......i dont need the $$$ to keep a twin turbo setup running reliably....

any that can answer my original questions?
Proper maintainence and knowing how to drive a turbo charged car determines how reliabile it will be. I have over 80k with original vac lines and my car still runs perfect.

You would be suprised how powerful the Fd's engine is in NA forum. Late last year after I pulled my engine to replace the clutch. I went for a test drive and the car was running just fine then all of a sudden I lost power. It turned out that I forgot to tighten the hose clamp from my IC to the elbow and the pressure popped it loose. The car was suprisingly very drivable and was still far faster than my vert.

If you want to drive an Fd NA I would just get a PFC(to tune for leaner AlF ratios),remove the turbos and build a manifold. Now you would have a fairly reliable NA Fd without doing a swap.
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Originally posted by ijneb
Maybe you could swap a na 3 rotor in there?
I couldnt imagine driving my FD around all the time feeling like i blew a intercooler pipe off. Hell, just today i was only seeing 7 psi and I was thinkin "damn this this is slow"
Now my question, does going 3 psi in the other direction make as much of a difference as 3 psi loss?

I guess I'll just have to find out next month.
yea..i had my intercooler hose come off one time and i had 0 boost...the damn thing was slower then hell lol
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Originally posted by turbojeff
Unbolt the turbos, install header, remove IC and piping. If your motivated you can strip all the crap under the UIM too...

DONE.

I'm not sure on the HP but it'd probably be around 160 crank. If you rebuilt the motor it'd be a good idea to put in the higher compression 89+ NA rotors. A PFC or other aftermarket ECU would help tune the car for more NA power. Otherwise it'll run fine with the stock ECU NA although I'm sure you'll lose some power.

The secondary injectors are bigger than you need, so if you got the PFC you may be able to put in some 550cc or smaller in the secondaries to enhance fine tuning.
Dont forget some type if intake on the throttle body side!
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instead of going with the 13b, why no look at a Renisis if you really want a N/A replacement.
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Originally posted by RX7 RAGE
yea..i had my intercooler hose come off one time and i had 0 boost...the damn thing was slower then hell lol
same happedn here i was liek wtf is goin on?? iam na now fixed it that day then enjoyed my lost boost time
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is an na fd engine gonna really be more reliable?
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Old 07-13-04, 10:37 PM
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Dont forget some type if intake on the throttle body side!
yeah i figured if i needed to splain that we didn't need to talk anymore.
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All you need is a knife - gash one of the intercooler couplings.
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