what ET on stock rx-7s
#151
Originally posted by SSSteve
They both are what they are - and neither one is necessarily the highest quality automobile ever built.
If I'm not mistaken, my friend's 93 has a factory Bose speaker system integrated into the car? If not, what is the brand?
btw - His car is very clean - and very nice. Although, I did accidently pull his passenger door handle out once.
They both are what they are - and neither one is necessarily the highest quality automobile ever built.
If I'm not mistaken, my friend's 93 has a factory Bose speaker system integrated into the car? If not, what is the brand?
btw - His car is very clean - and very nice. Although, I did accidently pull his passenger door handle out once.
to my knowledge, the R1s were made as light as possible, even if it meant sacrificing comfort or ride quality
#152
Originally posted by SSSteve
That apples n' oranges bs is so dumb I can't believe people who seem to have at least a shred of intelligence do it?!?
The point I'm trying to make is that they were cars that could be purchased from a factory. And there were a small handful of other musle-car era cars that were awesome. I'm pretty sure you could even get Pantera in the dismal 70s that would probably be close in performance to a stock SS or FD. (Not that many did. But- as you and GlassMan have inferred - Exclusivity isn't necessarily a 'bad' thing.)
For all of the advantages you listed for the Cobra- it has the disadvantages of all the years of development that transpired since they were available.
You yourself have used the "yea but - the US-version RX-7 is so old compared to the LS1..." GlassMan just did it too!
That apples n' oranges bs is so dumb I can't believe people who seem to have at least a shred of intelligence do it?!?
The point I'm trying to make is that they were cars that could be purchased from a factory. And there were a small handful of other musle-car era cars that were awesome. I'm pretty sure you could even get Pantera in the dismal 70s that would probably be close in performance to a stock SS or FD. (Not that many did. But- as you and GlassMan have inferred - Exclusivity isn't necessarily a 'bad' thing.)
For all of the advantages you listed for the Cobra- it has the disadvantages of all the years of development that transpired since they were available.
You yourself have used the "yea but - the US-version RX-7 is so old compared to the LS1..." GlassMan just did it too!
1993 RX7, 2002 SS
1/4 mile goes to the SS by about 3/10th or so, hell i'll give your 4/10ths with an equal driver.
Braking, Rx7 wins
top speed is probably close a 93 rx7 was clocked at 163
slalum , the rx7 wins
skid pad the rx7 kills the SS
Looks...well thats objective but most will say the 7 IMHO.
The ONLY you got to show for 10 years of development is a max of about 4/10 on the 1/4 mile and as others pointed out a 2002 RX7 will rape your SS.
OH yea, and don't bring up modding, I think we proved we have UNIBODY rx7's in the low 8's, im sure the fastest unibody SS is no faster than that.
Have a nice day.
Last edited by ZeroBanger; 12-20-02 at 01:01 AM.
#153
Originally posted by ZeroBanger
And lastly, how you like my avatar? On LS1.com I was using the CAMARO RIP with the TombStone, I thought it was funny.
And lastly, how you like my avatar? On LS1.com I was using the CAMARO RIP with the TombStone, I thought it was funny.
I like HOTCIVIC's avatar too...
#154
Originally posted by SSSteve
Cute - both avatars...
I like HOTCIVIC's avatar too...
Cute - both avatars...
I like HOTCIVIC's avatar too...
and yea , his avatar rules.
#155
Originally posted by ZeroBanger
Ok, how bout this
1993 RX7, 2002 SS....
Ok, how bout this
1993 RX7, 2002 SS....
And - as I've said repeatedly - I'm no race car driver - on the street, strip or anwhere else.
#156
Originally posted by SSSteve
Ok... how bout this... based on what you've shared - I'd probably still kick your RX7's *** with you driving it 9 out of 10 times!
And - as I've said repeatedly - I'm no race car driver - on the street, strip or anwhere else.
Ok... how bout this... based on what you've shared - I'd probably still kick your RX7's *** with you driving it 9 out of 10 times!
And - as I've said repeatedly - I'm no race car driver - on the street, strip or anwhere else.
But I agree Im not the best at launching my car, my goal is more to get the highest trap speed possible and racing from a roll (Darril aka forcefed7) is saying im turnin into a supra owner. He told me to sell the 7 and buy a damn supra!!!!
#158
Originally posted by ZeroBanger
...OH yea, and don't bring up modding, I think we proved we have UNIBODY rx7's in the low 8's, im sure the fastest unibody SS is no faster than that.
...OH yea, and don't bring up modding, I think we proved we have UNIBODY rx7's in the low 8's, im sure the fastest unibody SS is no faster than that.
Not that mine ever did- or that we'll be seeing your RX7 running low 8's anytime soon.
Originally posted by ZeroBanger
Have a nice day.
Have a nice day.
#159
Originally posted by azndisgrace
since when did my car come with a bose stereo system stock???
to my knowledge, the R1s were made as light as possible, even if it meant sacrificing comfort or ride quality
since when did my car come with a bose stereo system stock???
to my knowledge, the R1s were made as light as possible, even if it meant sacrificing comfort or ride quality
#161
Originally posted by SSSteve
heh... you too...
heh... you too...
I know that the camaro and 5.0 especially were made for drag racing and are better suited for it.
I will NEVER deny that. The one thing that makes your car suck in handling makes it very strong on the 1/4 mile strip, its nasty, ancient, crappy suspension.
#163
Originally posted by SSSteve
You'll have to ask the guy who posted the timeslip on the post you responded to a few minutes ago. It's his car. Whatever brand of speakers they are, they are long, integrated tubes in the back. Obviously made for the car, whether or not they were stock, I don't know. I believe his car does happen to be an R1, too.
You'll have to ask the guy who posted the timeslip on the post you responded to a few minutes ago. It's his car. Whatever brand of speakers they are, they are long, integrated tubes in the back. Obviously made for the car, whether or not they were stock, I don't know. I believe his car does happen to be an R1, too.
R1's dont even have cruise, lol.
#165
Originally posted by SSSteve
yeaaaaa!!!!! I'm MAD!!!
I guess ZeroBanger hasn't shared many of his racing exploits with you....
yeaaaaa!!!!! I'm MAD!!!
I guess ZeroBanger hasn't shared many of his racing exploits with you....
I STILL raped the cobra.
EDIT: oh yea and I cut the cobra off on the runway pass, not like it mattered as he was so damn slow.
nice day.
#166
Originally posted by azndisgrace
actually.. there are 8 second rx-7s out there
not a whole lot though
actually.. there are 8 second rx-7s out there
not a whole lot though
Read much?
j/k...
Originally posted by ZeroBanger
R1's never came with a bose from the factory, nor did they come with a moon roof.
R1's dont even have cruise, lol.
R1's never came with a bose from the factory, nor did they come with a moon roof.
R1's dont even have cruise, lol.
Originally posted by azndisgrace
if the car has a bose stereo system he's got a touring model. not an R1 or R2 model
if the car has a bose stereo system he's got a touring model. not an R1 or R2 model
Maybe his sig stands for the YZF1000/R1 he used to have. He's a smart guy - and pretty knowledgable about fast stuff. I wouldn't be too surprised if he came back to tell me he never said his car was an R1.
#167
Originally posted by ZeroBanger
I will NEVER deny that. The one thing that makes your car suck in handling makes it very strong on the 1/4 mile strip, its nasty, ancient, crappy suspension.
I will NEVER deny that. The one thing that makes your car suck in handling makes it very strong on the 1/4 mile strip, its nasty, ancient, crappy suspension.
I'm sure you could say the same...
#168
Originally posted by SSSteve
I'd bet money that I could pick a few stretches of road on which my crappy suspension would beat your car, if you were the only driver it could muster.
I'm sure you could say the same...
I'd bet money that I could pick a few stretches of road on which my crappy suspension would beat your car, if you were the only driver it could muster.
I'm sure you could say the same...
Hell, I could almost beat you in tank.
#169
Originally posted by Kevin T. Wyum
Heheh you like that 60' huh? Chuckle I agree I'm pretty surprised I pulled that time with such a shitty 60'. I will say I was mean as hell to the car, banging gears and skimpy with the clutch. I have heard of someone else running a 13.3 something I think in 1996 or something I assume they were driving like me : o. Actually now that I think about it the 60 foot helped a bit with the ET which goes against conventional wisdom. The cars bog severely if you hook hard in stock trim and I think a lot of wheel spin actually helped keep me in the powerband. The MPH was pretty nifty which fits the tought. Anyway that was almost 10 years ago. : )
Heheh you like that 60' huh? Chuckle I agree I'm pretty surprised I pulled that time with such a shitty 60'. I will say I was mean as hell to the car, banging gears and skimpy with the clutch. I have heard of someone else running a 13.3 something I think in 1996 or something I assume they were driving like me : o. Actually now that I think about it the 60 foot helped a bit with the ET which goes against conventional wisdom. The cars bog severely if you hook hard in stock trim and I think a lot of wheel spin actually helped keep me in the powerband. The MPH was pretty nifty which fits the tought. Anyway that was almost 10 years ago. : )
That would be Bill Harron (Hotwheels). He ran a 13.3 and change (at 105 I believe) at Atco..get this first time at a drag strip and with street tires. His next door neighbor with an 8 second drag car wanted to try so Bill said go ahead..He tached up ..way up and dropped the clutch...boom went the diff....oil all over the track and a tow home.
#170
Originally posted by ZeroBanger
I bet you are wrong. I am a good driver, but I'm not very good at launching my car.
I bet you are wrong. I am a good driver, but I'm not very good at launching my car.
Suffice to say, I seriously doubt I'd have to worry about your driving on some of my favorite roads.
Probably never find out (you already told me you'd never stop in my midwester sh**hole, you'd rather stay up there in nice NorCal - here it's great up there right now ) so it's a worthless debate.
Last edited by SSSteve; 12-20-02 at 01:47 AM.
#171
Originally posted by SSSteve
The way you freak out every other time you go down the dragstrip?!? The way you claim to almost never street race?!? The way you've got no more actual road racing experience than me? (none) The way I'm about 10 years older than you and have been driving on some of these roads since my 88 5.0 was new?
Suffice to say, I seriously doubt I'd have to worry about your driving on some of my favorite roads.
Probably never find out (you already told me you'd never stop in my midwester sh**hole, you'd rather stay up there in nice NorCal - here it's great up there right now ) so it's a worthless debate.
The way you freak out every other time you go down the dragstrip?!? The way you claim to almost never street race?!? The way you've got no more actual road racing experience than me? (none) The way I'm about 10 years older than you and have been driving on some of these roads since my 88 5.0 was new?
Suffice to say, I seriously doubt I'd have to worry about your driving on some of my favorite roads.
Probably never find out (you already told me you'd never stop in my midwester sh**hole, you'd rather stay up there in nice NorCal - here it's great up there right now ) so it's a worthless debate.
I *almost*never street race thats true. but I have, search the kills section.
I *NEVER* said I have road racing experience. I have a superior road race car and i'm a bit crazy=enough to beat you.
I never called your mid-west town a shi* hole. I'll give you $100 if you can give me a link. Ive never been so st louis, also I dont like northern cali, i'll be leaving it soon.
#172
Where'd Mr. Automagic go? I'm still waiting to hear where this proof was he kept going on about in the past tense without anyone but himself acknowledging it. Come to think of it his outreach to the entire forum asking who agreed with him met surprisingly with silence as well except some fellow trolls. I can't beleive the volume you guys type, sheesh talk about spam, you must have something more constructive to do don't you?
Kevin T. Wyum
P.S. So now two other people have posted about running 13.3's, hrmm they must have been at faulty tracks as well, cause the new vettes were running 14's : ) at the time.
Kevin T. Wyum
P.S. So now two other people have posted about running 13.3's, hrmm they must have been at faulty tracks as well, cause the new vettes were running 14's : ) at the time.
#174
i read all 7 pages of this thread and i guess only way we can verify it is if someone (esp. the missil guy) was there at the track and taped it...BUT since it took place 10 years ago and to the best of our knowledge, the time slip is the only record that's left of it, well accept it as a fact, don't harass the guy asking if it makes sense to him or not..just keep it in the back of your head as an instance that took place, and if you don't believe it and think the track equipment was busted then it's up to you. don't think there's need to try to discredit the guy to make others agree with your view.
#175
Originally posted by ZeroBanger
I never called your mid-west town a shi* hole. I'll give you $100 if you can give me a link.
I never called your mid-west town a shi* hole. I'll give you $100 if you can give me a link.
Not that it matters.