Originally Posted by alexdimen
(Post 10295090)
Your compression looks fine. You have 120 psi max pressure on box rotors and as long as the pulses are even with the valve open, that means they are all generating ~equal pressure. You need to open the valve on the rear rotor too or maybe you just didn't post the vid.
The pulse pressure can be anything and really depends on the opening, like if it is just pressed in or if the valve is completely removed allowing more air to flow out. Engine temp only has a mild effect on the compression in my experience. Not a make or break variable... may be in some cases but i don't think so here. However, I just remove the valve and there is barely a bounce, I'm sure it can't get a reading since there is no pressure getting to the gauge, hmmmm... |
So if my compression is good, and I replace the spark plugs and clean out the injectors...is there any other problems that could occur that causes the white smoke? Would putting in new plugs and injectors elminate my problems and be ready for the road? I know that white smoke is normally caused by coolant burning in the combustion chamber of an engine, do you think my gaskets have failed?
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I didn't read the whole thread, so forgive me if any of this has been covered before.
(1) Was the block sitting for 5 years with the same coolant in it? (2) Did you try the champagne test? ie start car with rad cap off and watch for a steady stream of small bubbles as the car warms up. |
Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
(Post 10295689)
I didn't read the whole thread, so forgive me if any of this has been covered before.
(1) Was the block sitting for 5 years with the same coolant in it? (2) Did you try the champagne test? ie start car with rad cap off and watch for a steady stream of small bubbles as the car warms up. Now the odd thing was the manual said stock coolant levels are about 2.3gal, I figured with a bigger radiator [koyo], it would much more, probably 3-4gal. I filled maybe about 2gal and the temps did hit about 90celsius, and the stock temp gauge never peaked nor did the alarm go off. So in essence, the champange test wasn't succeed since the bubbles were huge and overflowing. Hope that helps |
Originally Posted by silvercvic
(Post 10295686)
So if my compression is good, and I replace the spark plugs and clean out the injectors...is there any other problems that could occur that causes the white smoke? Would putting in new plugs and injectors elminate my problems and be ready for the road? I know that white smoke is normally caused by coolant burning in the combustion chamber of an engine, do you think my gaskets have failed?
A rich condition, incomplete combustion and many other things can cause whitish smoke. Water is also a product of the combustion process so it's normal to see some steam at startup. You'd know if it was coolant; it smells very sweet. If you want to compare, you could heat up some antifreeze on hot metal outside. Also, make sure you use distilled water to dilute your coolant if you haven't. I don't know if you've ever done a drain-fill on this coolant system but I found it to be a tough one. I had to run the engine fully warmed up for a while with the fill cap open to get all the air out. |
Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
(Post 10295689)
I didn't read the whole thread, so forgive me if any of this has been covered before.
(1) Was the block sitting for 5 years with the same coolant in it? (2) Did you try the champagne test? ie start car with rad cap off and watch for a steady stream of small bubbles as the car warms up. Also, google 'Lisle funnel' it makes it much easier to burp the cooling system of air when used properly. |
Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
(Post 10296345)
So the answer to question 1 above is 'yes?'
Also, google 'Lisle funnel' it makes it much easier to burp the cooling system of air when used properly. I have the Lisle funnel, damn thing drove me crazy cause it wouldn't seal right. If I let my hands off the funnel, it would spill over. I had to hold it the entire time with a good amount of pressure to keep it from leaking out. |
Originally Posted by alexdimen
(Post 10296222)
Don't lose too much sleep over this. Just make sure your comp pulses are good and put the new plugs in when you get them.
A rich condition, incomplete combustion and many other things can cause whitish smoke. Water is also a product of the combustion process so it's normal to see some steam at startup. You'd know if it was coolant; it smells very sweet. If you want to compare, you could heat up some antifreeze on hot metal outside. Also, make sure you use distilled water to dilute your coolant if you haven't. I don't know if you've ever done a drain-fill on this coolant system but I found it to be a tough one. I had to run the engine fully warmed up for a while with the fill cap open to get all the air out. As with anything, these plugs are different from what I have worked with in the past. How do you gap these properly? |
Originally Posted by silvercvic
(Post 10296438)
Thanks for the encouraging words.
As with anything, these plugs are different from what I have worked with in the past. How do you gap these properly? if they look the same as the ones you put picture of, youll be good to go. |
So I got the new plugs, ran a compression test on rear rotor [with schrader pressed], installed new plugs and here are the results...doodoo
01.rear rotor compression...looks good :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R_0NJWewyw 02. after installing new plugs - gauge readings http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKQ8Qy_Tuoc 03. after installing new plugs - engine smoke http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrtY4QEXrPA |
what next?? dirty injectors?
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Is there a possibility that you hook up the boost gauge backwards? Like the terminals because it is doing what it should like if it was reading vacuum.
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What's that smoke smell like? Fuel? Make your eyes water?
I might make a last ditch effort before taking off the UIM and see if you're getting proper spark by putting an timing light or inline tester on there. Those new plugs may also be fouled now too if you have a stuck injector and ran it for long. At least your compression is good... and if it's an open injector, you can probably just have them all cleaned and tested for a few bucks. I recommend this guy: http://cleaninjectors.com/ |
Originally Posted by hondasr4kids
(Post 10298412)
Is there a possibility that you hook up the boost gauge backwards? Like the terminals because it is doing what it should like if it was reading vacuum.
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Originally Posted by alexdimen
(Post 10298471)
What's that smoke smell like? Fuel? Make your eyes water?
I might make a last ditch effort before taking off the UIM and see if you're getting proper spark by putting an timing light or inline tester on there. Those new plugs may also be fouled now too if you have a stuck injector and ran it for long. At least your compression is good... and if it's an open injector, you can probably just have them all cleaned and tested for a few bucks. I recommend this guy: http://cleaninjectors.com/ Unfortunately I don't have a timing gun so its something I can't do right now. So I'll search through the manual and the forum to see how to yank out those injectors, and hopefully I didn't mess up those plugs, took a week to get here, hate to get another set. Just hate to de-pressurize my fuel by starting the motor up again and yanking the relay out, don't want to mess anything else up in there. And thanks for the link, how are they compared to RC engineering? |
Last night as I was de-pressurizing the fuel to yank the injectors out, when I had the car running on idle with the circuit relay pulled out, car seems to idle less rough, still some bouncing, but the turbo gauge was reading vacuum at .5 kpa. There was still lots of smoke and even though it filled up my garage , the smell wasn't so strong
any ideas on this? BTW I started to yank out the injectors, only to find out there was already a stripped screw on an injector cover |
Both sets of plugs can be glass bead blasted to un-foul them. Any machine shop should have a bead blaster. Maybe your local NAPA machine shop? Just make sure to flush all the glass beads out with brakleen.
No different than RC. |
how do you pull out the rats nest to get the primary injectors out? I've unbolted all the injector covers, the fuel rails, and oil fill neck. The nest moves, but only a couple of cm, but still cannot get access to the injectors to pull them out
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should be four screws through the nest...
Hell, while you are in there get rid of it :) |
Originally Posted by theo481
(Post 10304172)
should be four screws through the nest...
Hell, while you are in there get rid of it :) |
look up the simplified sequential or non-sequential conversion, buy the block off plates and new silicone vacuum hoses, and get working.
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You can see the four holes for the solenoid rack bolts here. You'll need to take off the coil rack first.
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Originally Posted by KKMpunkrock2011
(Post 10305928)
look up the simplified sequential or non-sequential conversion, buy the block off plates and new silicone vacuum hoses, and get working.
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I am not the person to ask about emissions legallity, I don't have to worry about it and all of my emissions stuff is gone.
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It has been a while since I pulled out my primary injectors but I know it can be done without taking out the rat's nest. I think I used a long needle nose pliers to pull them out. Good luck:icon_tup:
John |
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