Resource

Your best bet is to rebuild them both while you have them off.

FEARED7

BNR Supercars will match Bi States price and give a one year warranty.

Bryan
bnrsupercars@aol.com
205 663 4797

artguy

i was wondering where you were....

bnr's turbos are proven...it will be interesting to see how the bi state sets turn out.

j

ZeroBanger

they also dont have any or dont care. I sent several emails.

rzograbian

i was wondering if anyone sent their turbo's to be rebuilt by turbo city? i am on the path of doing that to my twins if i cant find the problem. did anyone send their turbo's to be rebuilt and balanced for a 3rd gen.? how did it turn out and how much did it cost?

thanks

artguy

hey..i had a set of turbo city rebuilds...they lasted one full startup and run before leaking all over the shop floor.

they are notoriously bad with their turbos and at one point were sued by a shop in southern california to recoup losses caused by having to constantly replace bad sets. turbo city lost and had to pay for the labor costs to that shop.

the last time i was there...the technician told me they were no longer going to do the rebuilds in house and that he hates working with the rx turbos. he said they were too hard to get them right. simple as that.

there are two shops that i know of that are proving to do a good job with the rebuilds right now. one is BNR Supercars and the other is TEC in colorado.

i had two bad sets of rebuilds before i learned my lesson. stay away from the idea if you can.


j

Meiogirl

iTrader: (2)

those mine before they got put back on?

artguy

were those bistate? looks like very nice work.

j

Resource

Yep,those are you turbos before we putt hem on your car

Resource

Yes, those are the turbos that BI State Customs rebuilt for Meiogirl

Brentis

I like the idea of making a ceramic coating a standard offering.. Differentiates the product offering a bit too. Question is if that is ceramikrome, will it support the turbo temperature? Black Satin is supposidly able to support a higher temperature and made by same company.

http://www.thinair-usa.com/Ceramic.html#ExhaustSys

Looks like I'll be in the market for some new turbos soon and will likely go with an upgraded turbo. Would be great if someone had a comparison of the various approaches with pros/cons.

See I know BNR has a 1 year warranty vs. others, but seeing how I only drive my car on occasion, it would be great to get the warranty in mileage equivalant to 1 year (say 15,000 miles).

rzograbian

does bi state have a website? if anyone here sent their turbo's to be rebuilt by BI STATE please tell me the price and if your turbos worked well. does BI STATE give any warrenties? also, does bi state sell turbo's that are already rebuilt and take a core return? that is what i want to do and if anyone can tell me a price?

thanks

Resource

BI State customs has set the price of their upgraded 400HP + twin turbos at $1,599 plus good core. The upgraded turbos that BI State is offering are comparable to the BNR Stage 3 turbos that they offer. This is what the BI State Customs upgraded twin turbos come with.

-Turbine housings are modified for increased air flow
-Turbine Wheels Clipped
-Both secondary and primary compressor turbine wheels are upgraded
-Specially modified thrust bearing for increased lubrication and longer life
-Units are completely digitally balanced
-Ported Wastegates
-Units will be fully rebuilt

Houdini

iTrader: (3)

careful what you say Bryan. These guys say they'll do a comparable rebuild for $1,599.

SPOautos

If its not a full dynamic seal conversion then its not the same as the BNR stage 3's

STEPHEN

jdhuegel1

Nothing like competition!

rzograbian

i still need to know if bi state has a phone number or website. also, if anyone knows where to get a rebuilt turbo with a core return please tell me. i am badly in need of one!!!!!!! also, if anyone can tell me a place that they will rebuilt the rx7 turbo's for a price under $400??? any help is appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Resource

Our twin turbo upgrade is comparable in the power they put out. Maybe you didn't see my repl last night. Here I will post it for you once again.


Our seals are based off a carbon seal but the garrett engineers refer to them as a rebuildable dynamic/carbon design which, they suggest for our particular application. Nasayers will often criticize the design but until they prove their Garrett engineering credentials I will leave it up to the current engineers I deal with.

That's all I would like to discuss about our seals for now.

Thank you

Resource

BI State customs phone number is 618-234-0069. They don't have a website up yet. We have good extra cores with no cracks here if you need one rebuilt.

They come with a 1 year/15K mile warranty. Which ever comes first.

SPOautos

Nah, I saw the post. I was basically saying that they arent fully dynamic seal converted.

Are you still running the stock shafts? If not, I'm sure you dont want to say what you are running but I'd be interested to know if you are using stock or not? Its not listed in your list of upgrades you perform to them so I'm thinking your still running the Hitachi cartridge. If thats the case you pretty much have to run carbon seals, you cant run dynamic seals without re designing the internals and making custom parts like BNR has done. Which is I'm sure why they told you to run carbon seals. There are no parts manufactured to fully convert them to dynamic seal. BNR hand makes all his own parts to convert them.

I'm not saying this to knock down your turbos, I'm just trying to give everyone a clear understanding that they are not the same as the BNR turbos. When you say they are comparable then people are going to think they are the same.

STEPHEN

artguy

bring on the dyno sheets!

thats how we can compare them...

are there any cars that will be running a set of these upgrades that are near completion where we can see the charts?


j

Resource

jdhuegel1 has bought a set of our upgraded turbos and will be dynoing them shortly.

Resource

We really find there is no reason to convert the seals over. The major differance in the two is the dynamic seal has a very very very slight amount of less drag. Less than .0100 measured Ft/Lb which which is unnoticeable.

Cihuuy

damn.. i wish BNR supercars or BI State is located near me land... i need an upgrade!!

Resource

Just mail yours off.