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Old 02-07-07 | 11:33 PM
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Turbo control solenoid

I am curious how many people have had thier turbo control solenoid fail? (the one with the mitsubishi symbol on it) I was wondering becuase i'm currently on my 3rd one and i think it's failing again.. is there any possible reason why this specific solenoid keeps failing?
Old 02-08-07 | 12:15 AM
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heat? constant use? debris in the tubing leading to it? etc...
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If you are talking about the pressure side TC solenoid "E" that is in the rats nest lower rack, then I can tell you that this solenoid is problematic as it has a bad habit of sticking--probably because there is not enough return spring pressure on it's plunger to overcome the boost and release (vent) it. I think this is a design or application problem with this solenoid and is not a solenoid failure, per se. Unfortuanately, the result is that the TCA (actuator) stays open and prevents the sequential system from reverting to primary operation and making normal boost under certain driving conditions.

Tired of dealing with this, I developed a simple work around to this problem. If there is interest, I will write it up and post it .
Old 02-08-07 | 02:44 AM
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actually i'm talking about the solenoid on the Air control vavle thing, on the side, not in the rack. I am currently running a pfc straight pipe intake, ignition, basic stuff. I have relocated my solenoid behind the ABs so heat isn't as big of an issue nemore
Old 02-08-07 | 02:58 AM
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If you are talking about the pressure side TC solenoid "E" that is in the rats nest lower rack, then I can tell you that this solenoid is problematic as it has a bad habit of sticking--probably because there is not enough return spring pressure on it's plunger to overcome the boost and release (vent) it. I think this is a design or application problem with this solenoid and is not a solenoid failure, per se. Unfortuanately, the result is that the TCA (actuator) stays open and prevents the sequential system from reverting to primary operation and making normal boost under certain driving conditions.

Tired of dealing with this, I developed a simple work around to this problem. If there is interest, I will write it up and post it .
Please do, I'm having trouble with this at the moment and I can't get motivated enough to replace it. If I know it won't happen again, that would be great.
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Funny, I've never had a problem with that solenoid, even after 157,000 miles. That's the one that handles the vacuum side of the TCA. Are you sure you don't have a problem with the other (pressure side) solenoid? They are well known for sticking and/or operating intermittently.

How much boost do you run? The TC solenoid "E" is marginal at stock boost levels and the more boost you run, the more likely you are to have a problem with the TC pressure side solenoid operating erratically.
Old 02-08-07 | 04:03 AM
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Old 02-08-07 | 11:24 AM
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Are you sure you have the lines going in correct? I've tested many of these solenoids, and only a few hold vacuum well in both directions. Most of them do quite well at holding vacuum in just one direction - so you might try crossing the hoses that attach to it.

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Old 02-08-07 | 11:50 AM
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Yeah, I put in a pressure regulator off of the pressure ank, so no matter how much boost I run, the pressure solonoid only ever sees 9-10 psi. Sticking problem solved.



Originally Posted by Speed of light
Funny, I've never had a problem with that solenoid, even after 157,000 miles. That's the one that handles the vacuum side of the TCA. Are you sure you don't have a problem with the other (pressure side) solenoid? They are well known for sticking and/or operating intermittently.

How much boost do you run? The TC solenoid "E" is marginal at stock boost levels and the more boost you run, the more likely you are to have a problem with the TC pressure side solenoid operating erratically.
Old 02-08-07 | 02:05 PM
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If you want to solve for ever the solenoid problem buy 3 solenoids from 96+ fd3s who have solenoid box.The solenoids from black box never stack and is all mitsubishi not hitachi.
The only thing I dont know is what type is correct but both is working B6AT-18-741 or FEGC-18-741.
You have to make an adaptor with wire from your solenoid connector to new solenoid very easy to do.
This mod is discovered first by efso member of this forum.
Old 02-14-07 | 01:22 PM
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Is Ray at Molloy Mazda the only place to get these solenoids? What is the turnaround time once I order them from him?

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Any Mazda dealer will sell them, of course.

Ray will probably have them all in stock and to you in a couple of days.
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whats your boost pattern that leads you to believe its the turbo control solenoid? What was your boost pattern before you replaced it the other times?
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Sorry to bust this thread up but i think i might be having the same problem. Some times i get boost and some times i dont. Its actually driving me nuts. When she does have boost she flys like a bat out of hell but 90% of the time when she doesnt have boost shes dead. And i know everything is hooked up right because like i said i get boost sometimes. How do you check the turbo control Solenoid?
Old 02-24-07 | 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Speed of light
If you are talking about the pressure side TC solenoid "E" that is in the rats nest lower rack, then I can tell you that this solenoid is problematic as it has a bad habit of sticking--probably because there is not enough return spring pressure on it's plunger to overcome the boost and release (vent) it. I think this is a design or application problem with this solenoid and is not a solenoid failure, per se. Unfortuanately, the result is that the TCA (actuator) stays open and prevents the sequential system from reverting to primary operation and making normal boost under certain driving conditions.

Tired of dealing with this, I developed a simple work around to this problem. If there is interest, I will write it up and post it .

I'm on my second one and would like to know how you worked around it.
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The workaround is a pressure regulator. If you regulate the pressure chamber to 8psi, the turbo control solenoid will work much more reliably. Without the regulator, the turbo control solenoid has to fight against 12+psi depending on how much boost the turbos are producing.

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Old 02-24-07 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Goukid2
How do you check the turbo control Solenoid?
FSM page F-190 (at least that's the page number in my copy...)



Edit: never mind, see the next post. Thanks for the correction Dave

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Old 02-24-07 | 01:02 PM
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Don't check the turbo control solenoid that way. It's not sufficient.

Do it the way Dave Disney developed:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ntrol+solenoid

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Old 02-24-07 | 03:22 PM
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+1 on the pressure regulator.
Old 03-19-07 | 06:47 AM
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What kind of pressure regulators are you guys using? Where are you mounting it? Thanks
Old 03-19-07 | 05:50 PM
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i second that... i got another dead solenoid
Old 03-19-07 | 06:16 PM
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Mine turned out just to be the vacuum line collapsed and pinched off flow to the solenoid. I had ordered a new one so I replaced it anyway while the UIM was off. it was at about 58K miles.
Old 03-19-07 | 07:37 PM
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speed of light more info on the fix it solution. I noticed after getting my hands on another 20 solenoids that no of them could handle much over 11psi before locking and not reverting back to a closed state , so i either buy some aftermarket replacements or you should shed some light on the fix solution,,, thankyouuuuuuuuuuu :-)
Old 03-20-07 | 04:52 PM
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This may be the fix. That was being mentioned.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...9&page=1&pp=15



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