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Old 09-13-01, 02:20 PM
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Is this too hard to find?

A 1995 Mazda RX-7 Twin Turbo R2...
-With cloth seats
-Good conditon
-Original Engine
-Original Turbos
-50,000 or less miles
-no Performance mods
-no body damage ever
-*you know, all the good stuff*-

P.S. how much ya'll think it would cost with all these things?

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Old 09-13-01, 09:19 PM
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HA HA

Well they only made 500 95's out of that less than 100 were R2's
I'm sure one is out there but... it will take time and money to find it. I've only seen 2 95 R2's they were in great shape but heavy mods and not for sale!
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It shouldn't be too hard to find if you're willing to un-*** with the cash. So that's what's going to tie your first and last questions together. If you GOTTA HAVE all that on your list (and frankly I don't see why you would when there are excellent examples of this vehicle that don't meet your qualifications) then be willing to spend $30K to $50K if you want to find it fast and "easy". Money talks, and I'm sure anyone will part with their baby for the right size chunk of change. Now if you're just pissing around with $12K to $15K burning a hole in your pocket then good luck cause I don't think you'll find such a gem for that price. But go ahead. "Even a blind pig finds a truffle every now and again."

FYI I know some on this forum will tell you different or maybe just disagree and point to their proof, but AVERAGE engine life on these cars (3rd gen) is 75,000 miles. Some get more and claim that it's all in maintenance and operational technique (i.e. warmup, cool down, etc.). I'm sure they are fanatics, and keep their car in impecable shape, however I think that luck plays a bigger role in it than they would like to think. Not to take anything away from their automotive skills, but I took exceptional care of mine (ask anyone who knows me) and still my engine failed at 69K. So don't let anyone bullshit you into thinking that if you do everything perfect (or at least by their standards) that your engine will last 100K+. It may very well, and I'm happy for you if it does, but the law of averages says it won't.

I'm sure others will try to point out errors in my argument or their own personal figures or whatever, so you listen to whomever you want or no one at all. Ask Jim LaBreck ("Jimlab") IMHO he's probably forgotten more about 3rd gens than me, or most others on this forum will ever know!

I only bring this up, because if you buy a 3rd gen with 50K on the original engine, turbos, and clutch, I would advise you to get ready to replace all three within 30k mi (unless it's a garage queen, which is after all what these cars were designed to be ). Once the engine goes you will get to take a look at the turbos while they're off, and see how badly cracked they are. If you're lucky, they'll be repairable (though some claim this is impossible, I don't know, I bought a NEW set for mine).

And I don't think anyone has had a clutch last longer than about 75k. Although I'm sure someone sitting out there on the far right end of the bell curve will chime in with a whopping 150K mi clutch story (it never fails). Anyway it's only good practice to replace the clutch during an engine replacement. I mean why wouldn't you? You're already there.

So anyway like I said, good luck. If this is gonna be a daily driver, I wouldn't worry too much about getting the rarest, or most perfect RX-7 out there. It will inevitably get dinged, **** on, bottomed out, faded, leaned up against, scratched, etc. and man will you ever be pissed when it happens, believe me. Find a nice one in your price range, that you can have fun with and don't worry about an exhaust mod or two. Hell, you'll be trading their cat-back out for one you like better before you know it. Don't forget to go out and enjoy the damned thing, that's what it was made for.

Jeez!!! I never can give a short post!
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From production numbers, there were only 57 '95 R2 models brought in. Were you aware that the R models came with suede-like seats and not cloth? So you'd have to change the seats out to cloth which seems odd since you seem bent on getting a stock car. Considering the rate at which RX-7's have been in accidents along with thefts and your orig eng/turbos/50k mileage/all stock requirements, there's probably less than 10 cars out there total US. Plus, the owners of these cars would most likely be unwilling to part with them. If said owners were to part with them, the demand is high enough that the turnover would be very quick.

So odds are you won't be able to locate such a car and if you do, someone will have beaten you to it. To do it right, you'd have to find someone with a car that meets your requirements and convince them(meaning stupid$$$) to part with it. You'll probably hate me for telling you this but I do know of such a car. Its a '95 Silver R2(only 16 made) and its only got 7k miles last I saw it. The owner bought it several years ago and spent a year locating. He had to fly out to get it(had cash in hand and spent too much for it). He's retired and very well off so there's zero chance of getting him to part with it.


Magnificent 7 gives some very good info. Just to be a pest, I'll state that I'm at 86k miles on the original clutch/engine/turbos and its running great. The 86k miles is on my supposedly weaker '93 clutch(Mazda claimed to have improved clutch wear by resurfacing for '94-on RX-7's for longer life). Dynoed at 281rwhp last time with the mild mods I have on(so no, I'm not stock) along with strong vacuum readings. I've owned the car for 5 years and its been troublefree. I've even gotten comments from other RX-7 owners on how nice the paint still looks(its garaged at both work and home). I don't even have have any oil leaks(like the ones typically seen on the underside of the turbos). Whats worked for me is fanatical care, reliability mods(except hose tie off or silicone replacement...never had a boost problem, redline fluids including buying redline oil by the case, and a heavy foot after warming up the car and before cooling it down
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those stats are pretty accurate. At 73k my clutch recently went out...engine running strong at 74k original miles....turbos slightly leaking, but otherwise perfect compression and running smooth. I give my car the fanatical treatment. garaged, premix, 1500 mile oil changes, 5-10 minute start up, 5 minute cool down, replaced hoses, frequently changed plugs...the works

Unless you're a collector, I'd settle with one of the earlier model years. Most recalls were performed on the 93's, and most will require a rebuild regardless of the model year
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how much you want to spend

p.m. me i might have some info. for you!
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