Sugar in the gas tank
06-24-04, 07:08 PM
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hey again guys I am not even close to an expert but I would think if a good amount of that crap did get into the combustion chamber that it would do damage. So the only real question is did the sugar actually make it to through the fuel lines and into the combustion chamber right??
06-24-04, 07:18 PM
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I did find this though
http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/msugar2.html
The vehicle utilized was a 1983 Cutlass Ciera with 94,000 on the clock and a mortal lifter knock. Along with my assistants, we lowered the gas tank and pulled the fuel pump (the pump is mounted on the tank these days). Hmmm, about 1/4 full. Excellent. In went a healthy amount of Domino's Refined Sugar ... not enough to touch the fuel pump sock. Back went the the pump. Gentlemen, start your engine. After 10 minutes, I began to get nervous. But at the 16 minute mark, the motor made the first of what would prove to be a series of hiccups. Twice it stalled and had to be restarted. At 31 minutes the engine quit and would not restart until we fired it up and kept it running by squirting a steady stream of starting fluid directly into the carburetor. Clearly, fuel was no longer coming from the fuel tank. When the pump unit was removed for re-examination, the sock was caked with sugar and the pump sounded a tad ill when juice was applied. It would be interesting to learn the conditions under which Motor Service magazine failed to achieve this result. Those who had supplied me with the earlier information merely shrugged and said, "I told you so." They also waxed nostalgic on the old golf ball trick. While I go get the Go-Jo to get the gas smell off my hands, let's all pause a moment and sigh happily that at least one urban myth is not a myth at all.
http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/msugar2.html
The vehicle utilized was a 1983 Cutlass Ciera with 94,000 on the clock and a mortal lifter knock. Along with my assistants, we lowered the gas tank and pulled the fuel pump (the pump is mounted on the tank these days). Hmmm, about 1/4 full. Excellent. In went a healthy amount of Domino's Refined Sugar ... not enough to touch the fuel pump sock. Back went the the pump. Gentlemen, start your engine. After 10 minutes, I began to get nervous. But at the 16 minute mark, the motor made the first of what would prove to be a series of hiccups. Twice it stalled and had to be restarted. At 31 minutes the engine quit and would not restart until we fired it up and kept it running by squirting a steady stream of starting fluid directly into the carburetor. Clearly, fuel was no longer coming from the fuel tank. When the pump unit was removed for re-examination, the sock was caked with sugar and the pump sounded a tad ill when juice was applied. It would be interesting to learn the conditions under which Motor Service magazine failed to achieve this result. Those who had supplied me with the earlier information merely shrugged and said, "I told you so." They also waxed nostalgic on the old golf ball trick. While I go get the Go-Jo to get the gas smell off my hands, let's all pause a moment and sigh happily that at least one urban myth is not a myth at all.
06-24-04, 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by cchanmn
I did find this though
http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/msugar2.html
The vehicle utilized was a 1983 Cutlass Ciera with 94,000 on the clock and a mortal lifter knock. Along with my assistants, we lowered the gas tank and pulled the fuel pump (the pump is mounted on the tank these days). Hmmm, about 1/4 full. Excellent. In went a healthy amount of Domino's Refined Sugar ... not enough to touch the fuel pump sock. Back went the the pump. Gentlemen, start your engine. After 10 minutes, I began to get nervous. But at the 16 minute mark, the motor made the first of what would prove to be a series of hiccups. Twice it stalled and had to be restarted. At 31 minutes the engine quit and would not restart until we fired it up and kept it running by squirting a steady stream of starting fluid directly into the carburetor. Clearly, fuel was no longer coming from the fuel tank. When the pump unit was removed for re-examination, the sock was caked with sugar and the pump sounded a tad ill when juice was applied. It would be interesting to learn the conditions under which Motor Service magazine failed to achieve this result. Those who had supplied me with the earlier information merely shrugged and said, "I told you so." They also waxed nostalgic on the old golf ball trick. While I go get the Go-Jo to get the gas smell off my hands, let's all pause a moment and sigh happily that at least one urban myth is not a myth at all.
I did find this though
http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/msugar2.html
The vehicle utilized was a 1983 Cutlass Ciera with 94,000 on the clock and a mortal lifter knock. Along with my assistants, we lowered the gas tank and pulled the fuel pump (the pump is mounted on the tank these days). Hmmm, about 1/4 full. Excellent. In went a healthy amount of Domino's Refined Sugar ... not enough to touch the fuel pump sock. Back went the the pump. Gentlemen, start your engine. After 10 minutes, I began to get nervous. But at the 16 minute mark, the motor made the first of what would prove to be a series of hiccups. Twice it stalled and had to be restarted. At 31 minutes the engine quit and would not restart until we fired it up and kept it running by squirting a steady stream of starting fluid directly into the carburetor. Clearly, fuel was no longer coming from the fuel tank. When the pump unit was removed for re-examination, the sock was caked with sugar and the pump sounded a tad ill when juice was applied. It would be interesting to learn the conditions under which Motor Service magazine failed to achieve this result. Those who had supplied me with the earlier information merely shrugged and said, "I told you so." They also waxed nostalgic on the old golf ball trick. While I go get the Go-Jo to get the gas smell off my hands, let's all pause a moment and sigh happily that at least one urban myth is not a myth at all.
06-24-04, 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by Fatman0203
How about the marbles in the gas tank legend? Sits there too huh?
How about the marbles in the gas tank legend? Sits there too huh?
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So the "fine sugar grains" would have to make it through the fuel pump screen, through the fuel filter, then through the very fine screen on the injectors, through the injector nozzle into the engine.[/B]
So the "fine sugar grains" would have to make it through the fuel pump screen, through the fuel filter, then through the very fine screen on the injectors, through the injector nozzle into the engine.[/B]
that's what I was thinking if it ever did make it close enough to the engine than the filter would grab it.
06-24-04, 08:24 PM
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what i read about the golf ball was you put the ;ittle bastard in the tank and the gas eats away at the coating of the golf ball exposing the rubbered twine that makes up the ball. supposedly that twine is very long and it will get sucked into the pump and other things causing major problems again. Who new you could f somebody that bad with something so small??
06-24-04, 08:24 PM
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I wonder what would happen if someone were to dump a quart of molasses in the tank. It's loaded with dissolved sugar, and should blend with the fuel and pass through filters as easily as pre-mix does.
Now that could pose a problem. Coupled with a big gob of epoxy glue blocking 90% of the the exhaust and you have a recipe for melt-down.
Of course, somebody would have had to do something particularly nasty to you in order to desrve such a fate...
Now that could pose a problem. Coupled with a big gob of epoxy glue blocking 90% of the the exhaust and you have a recipe for melt-down.
Of course, somebody would have had to do something particularly nasty to you in order to desrve such a fate...
06-24-04, 08:25 PM
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I wonder what would happen if someone were to dump a quart of molasses in the tank. It's loaded with dissolved sugar, and should blend with the fuel and pass through filters as easily as pre-mix does.
Now that could pose a problem. Coupled with a big gob of epoxy glue blocking 90% of the the exhaust and you have a recipe for melt-down.
Of course, somebody would have had to do something particularly nasty to you in order to deserve such a fate...
Now that could pose a problem. Coupled with a big gob of epoxy glue blocking 90% of the the exhaust and you have a recipe for melt-down.
Of course, somebody would have had to do something particularly nasty to you in order to deserve such a fate...
06-24-04, 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by PVerdieck
I don't know about golf *****, but I think moth ***** will dissolve in gasoline.
I don't know about golf *****, but I think moth ***** will dissolve in gasoline.
06-24-04, 08:58 PM
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one of my co-workers had syrup poured in her gastank. It didnt get to her engine but it did clog everything else up. And, for the next few months, everytime you rode with her you had a strange craving for pancakes.
true story
true story
06-24-04, 08:58 PM
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I haven't seen anything to suggest the sugar issue isn't an urban legend. The quote that was posted only says that the sugar clogged the filter and pump sock or prefilter. It didn't do a thing to the motor other than stall it from no fuel. From what I've been reading here my assumption, given the information at hand, is that the person turned the boost up, or something else they shouldn't have been doing, blew the motor, then came up with the sugar story trying to get the blown motor covered by insurance, since there was no warranty coverage etc. They poured the sugar in themselves. Any bets? : )
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06-24-04, 09:12 PM
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one of my co-workers had syrup poured in her gastank. It didnt get to her engine but it did clog everything else up. And, for the next few months, everytime you rode with her you had a strange craving for pancakes.
true story
true story
06-24-04, 09:18 PM
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YO Kevin that is pretty fucked up for you to accuse somebody you don't even know and if you would like I would be happy to come over show you that the thing is totally stock and then shove the whole ******* car down your ***** *** throat!! but i guess you are a career criminal and that just comes natural for you. I thought some would be able to shed some light and maybe an experience or two but ********* like you are just plain rude!! I really hope somebody does this to your POS and see how you like it!
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06-24-04, 09:49 PM
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I had sugar in my gas tank for probably 6 months to a year! I replaced the fuel pump, opened the latch, and saw all this **** around the slosh protector. Had the tank drained, confirmed it was sugar, changed the fuel filter, had the lines cleaned, but apparently no damage to the injectors.
It always sputtered in low gears once the fuel hit half a tank full. With a full tank, I never had a problem going WOT. Sounds like you had more sugar than I did. Sorry to hear that man.
It always sputtered in low gears once the fuel hit half a tank full. With a full tank, I never had a problem going WOT. Sounds like you had more sugar than I did. Sorry to hear that man.
06-24-04, 10:11 PM
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YO Kevin that is pretty fucked up for you to accuse somebody you don't even know and if you would like I would be happy to come over show you that the thing is totally stock and then shove the whole ******* car down your ***** *** throat!! but i guess you are a career criminal and that just comes natural for you. I thought some would be able to shed some light and maybe an experience or two but ********* like you are just plain rude!! I really hope somebody does this to your POS and see how you like it!
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YO Kevin that is pretty fucked up for you to accuse somebody you don't even know and if you would like I would be happy to come over show you that the thing is totally stock and then shove the whole ******* car down your ***** *** throat!! but i guess you are a career criminal and that just comes natural for you. I thought some would be able to shed some light and maybe an experience or two but ********* like you are just plain rude!! I really hope somebody does this to your POS and see how you like it!
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06-24-04, 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by cchanmn
YO Kevin that is pretty fucked up for you to accuse somebody you don't even know and if you would like I would be happy to come over show you that the thing is totally stock and then shove the whole ******* car down your ***** *** throat!! but i guess you are a career criminal and that just comes natural for you. I thought some would be able to shed some light and maybe an experience or two but ********* like you are just plain rude!! I really hope somebody does this to your POS and see how you like it!
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YO Kevin that is pretty fucked up for you to accuse somebody you don't even know and if you would like I would be happy to come over show you that the thing is totally stock and then shove the whole ******* car down your ***** *** throat!! but i guess you are a career criminal and that just comes natural for you. I thought some would be able to shed some light and maybe an experience or two but ********* like you are just plain rude!! I really hope somebody does this to your POS and see how you like it!
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