3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

Starting off the new year with an engine pull!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-09-10 | 12:36 AM
  #101  
KKMpunkrock2011's Avatar
dorito powered

iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,839
Likes: 0
From: Lincoln, NE
you're still waiting on the injectors right? to get the secondaries in without too much of a hassle, pull the LIM off, remove the secondary rail, put the injectors in, bolt on the rail, THEN bolt on the LIM, makes life easier since you've got everything else out right now.
Old 08-09-10 | 01:11 AM
  #102  
HardHitter's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,150
Likes: 0
From: US
Ohhh I get it! Is it really that bad to install the injectors? I step into the engine bay where my radiator/intercooler would usually be so I'm not leaning over the car. I thought the injectors should be a direct drop in other than modifying the harness to clip in.
Old 08-09-10 | 01:48 AM
  #103  
GreatShamanGT's Avatar
Roxann7
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,421
Likes: 3
From: Seattle, WA
Originally Posted by GreatShamanGT
Hey,

Did you do the harness yourself or did you send it off to have someone do it? Let me know because I'm trying to have mine simplified
started off with a new page so idk if you saw this. I'm about to start a wiretuck so I wanna know asap :P
Old 08-09-10 | 01:45 PM
  #104  
KKMpunkrock2011's Avatar
dorito powered

iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,839
Likes: 0
From: Lincoln, NE
Originally Posted by HardHitter
Ohhh I get it! Is it really that bad to install the injectors? I step into the engine bay where my radiator/intercooler would usually be so I'm not leaning over the car. I thought the injectors should be a direct drop in other than modifying the harness to clip in.
it can be. It's hard to get a wrench or socket in there at the correct angle. It's a tight fit, using shorter bolts will help too. I think it's just easier to do it with the LIM off, then hook everything up. It's not that it can't be done with the LIM on, I did it, it's just a pain and took me way more effort than it was worth.
Old 08-09-10 | 05:43 PM
  #105  
r074r'/ |\|00B
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 922
Likes: 0
From: KC, KS
Did it take 4 months to get your engine back, or did you take a break?
Old 08-09-10 | 11:53 PM
  #106  
HardHitter's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,150
Likes: 0
From: US
Originally Posted by doofy
Did it take 4 months to get your engine back, or did you take a break?
The engine build was complete once it actually started getting torn apartin a week and a half or so. There was a hold up based on my decision of parts and decision of going back to 2mm rotors.
Old 08-14-10 | 05:15 PM
  #107  
HardHitter's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,150
Likes: 0
From: US
So working on the car today, we have the engine mated to the transmission and all bell housing bolts, but I don't think we have the actual "connection" with the transmission because when I go to push the clutch pedal in, it just goes straight to the floor and stays there. I don't have to put any force on the clutch pedal or anything, I push it just a little and it basically shoots to the floor.

I've done a few searches, but it seems like it could be a master/slave cylinder problem? Checked the brake/clutch fluid and it's fine. I don't understand how this could be a problem if it was in perfect working order when we were pulling the engine out. Any suggestions?

All I am really waiting on are my injectors, once they get in, I'll be able to install those and put the radiator/intercooler in and then just start hooking everything up electrically.
Old 08-14-10 | 05:59 PM
  #108  
jamespond24's Avatar
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 4,152
Likes: 0
From: Pittsburg, KS.
Originally Posted by HardHitter
So working on the car today, we have the engine mated to the transmission and all bell housing bolts, but I don't think we have the actual "connection" with the transmission because when I go to push the clutch pedal in, it just goes straight to the floor and stays there. I don't have to put any force on the clutch pedal or anything, I push it just a little and it basically shoots to the floor.

I've done a few searches, but it seems like it could be a master/slave cylinder problem? Checked the brake/clutch fluid and it's fine. I don't understand how this could be a problem if it was in perfect working order when we were pulling the engine out. Any suggestions?

All I am really waiting on are my injectors, once they get in, I'll be able to install those and put the radiator/intercooler in and then just start hooking everything up electrically.
Remember the FD clutch is a pulled type you have to push the fork on the driver side to lock it in.
Old 08-14-10 | 06:03 PM
  #109  
HardHitter's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,150
Likes: 0
From: US
This is what we are looking at through the peep hole...that doesn't look right, we need to get that into the actual clutch correct?


Old 08-14-10 | 06:38 PM
  #110  
HardHitter's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,150
Likes: 0
From: US
So I was able to get the ring back to the clutch and it connected but when I push the clutch to test it, there is no resistance. The clutch pedal does now pop back up, but no/little resistance. When I take a look through the peep hole when someone pushes it, the clutch is pulled just very slightly.
Old 08-14-10 | 11:00 PM
  #111  
EvilAreXeven's Avatar
Senior Member

iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 416
Likes: 0
From: LosT Angeles
omg I made the same mistake. How did you get the collar back in to the clutch???
Old 08-14-10 | 11:28 PM
  #112  
mgoddard1's Avatar
I luv my carbon footprint
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 452
Likes: 0
From: Indianapolis
First make sure the clutch fork is snapped into the pressure plate. From my experience you probably need to bleed the clutch. When you remove the slave cylinder the piston inside of it can extend too far and let air in the system.


Originally Posted by HardHitter
So I was able to get the ring back to the clutch and it connected but when I push the clutch to test it, there is no resistance. The clutch pedal does now pop back up, but no/little resistance. When I take a look through the peep hole when someone pushes it, the clutch is pulled just very slightly.
Old 08-15-10 | 02:09 PM
  #113  
HardHitter's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,150
Likes: 0
From: US
Originally Posted by EvilAreXeven
omg I made the same mistake. How did you get the collar back in to the clutch???
Do what you do when you try to disconnect it from the clutch. Basically push the ring towards the front of the car and it'll pop loose/off. Then just put it back into the clutch.
Old 08-15-10 | 09:14 PM
  #114  
KKMpunkrock2011's Avatar
dorito powered

iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,839
Likes: 0
From: Lincoln, NE
if it keeps popping out, watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPCi4RpGQCU
Old 09-06-10 | 08:55 PM
  #115  
HardHitter's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,150
Likes: 0
From: US
So I haven't updated in a while but the car is coming along pretty well. I have the following left to do.

1. Wire the injector harness into the engine wiring harness
2. Put the UIM/elbow/IC piping on
3. Connect the wiring harness to all sensors
4. Double check clutch/bleed clutch little more probably
5. Add oil/transmission oil
6. Load new base map (is this really needed for just start up? the base map has a tune for 550/1300 injectors, I now have 725/2000 injectors)
7. Cross fingers and hope the car starts up/doesn't leak/runs

Here is how it looks like right now, going to be in Vegas this weekend, so won't be able to get to the car again until two weeks from now.

Old 09-07-10 | 01:37 AM
  #116  
arghx's Avatar
rotorhead
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 16,188
Likes: 438
From: cold
If you changed your primary injectors I would use a different basemap.
Old 09-07-10 | 07:55 AM
  #117  
Howard Coleman's Avatar
Racing Rotary Since 1983
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 6,136
Likes: 564
From: Florence, Alabama
use the map i sent you but since you changed injectors you will need to change the injector delivery numbers and the lag. i believe you can easily get these from Injector Dynamics or search the board as they have been posted.

finally, you will have to change the injector ontime (base fuel page) a bit.

proceed w caution here and don't hesitate to ask questions.

and don't forget to pull the fuel pump fuse (yellow 20 A near your left foot toes), pull the sparkplugs and crank the motor til you have oil pressure before starting.

howard
Old 09-08-10 | 10:53 PM
  #118  
pomanferrari's Avatar
Rotary Freak
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,650
Likes: 2
From: San Jose
Originally Posted by HardHitter
6. Load new base map (is this really needed for just start up? the base map has a tune for 550/1300 injectors, I now have 725/2000 injectors)

I have the Datalogit for the PFC if you need to change injector size and other parameters.
Old 09-08-10 | 10:57 PM
  #119  
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
Original Gangster/Rotary!
Veteran: Army
iTrader: (213)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 30,580
Likes: 567
From: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
Originally Posted by Howard Coleman CPR
and don't forget to pull the fuel pump fuse (yellow 20 A near your left foot toes), pull the sparkplugs and crank the motor til you have oil pressure before starting.

howard
Another option is to pull the EGI fuse, it's a pink 30 Amp fuse located in the middle of the row of fuses over by the driver's side headlight.
Old 09-09-10 | 12:11 PM
  #120  
HardHitter's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,150
Likes: 0
From: US
Originally Posted by pomanferrari
I have the Datalogit for the PFC if you need to change injector size and other parameters.
I definitely will take you up on that offer. I'm going to e-mail ID or some others who are running the same ID setup and see what they suggest for my injector setup.
Old 09-22-10 | 09:55 PM
  #121  
HardHitter's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,150
Likes: 0
From: US
Well, I think the day is coming!

There are a few problems though

I go to put my UIM on and hook up the sensor that is underneath the UIM and well, the engine harness doesn't fit the sensor.

I purchased this UIM already ceramic coated from a user on here and it looks as though the sensor is an aftermarket one. I looked at my old UIM and the sensors threading is A LOT smaller and the fitting is different.

Here are some pictures of the sensor and the threading. Is there a way to find a connection or how exactly am I going to get this to work? Is it an essential part? I'm pretty sure this is the air intake temp sensor.

Also missing is, I do not know where my O2 sensor is that goes into my downpipe. I see pictures of it in when I first took pictures of the car, but where could this have gone? Is this part of the wiring harness? I'm totally at a blank right now.

Here is how the car sits right now



Things left to do:

1. Put the last IC pipe on
2. Add fluids (oil, transmission oil, 2-stroke oil, coolant)
3. Load new base map

START THE CAR!
Old 09-22-10 | 11:32 PM
  #122  
KKMpunkrock2011's Avatar
dorito powered

iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,839
Likes: 0
From: Lincoln, NE
no pictures of the sensor and threading man, you're so close tho!
Old 09-23-10 | 12:14 AM
  #123  
HardHitter's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,150
Likes: 0
From: US
Here is what I posted on the thread where I was having problems. You guys can see the difference in UIM.

the hole has been modified to fit this aftermarket sensor though. Here are the pictures. The one with the ceramic coating is the modified UIM with an aftermarket sensor. My stock one is the non-ceramic coated and has the sensor that fits the wiring harness.







Aftermarket sensor trying to go into the non-ceramic coated UIM



Stock sensor trying to go into the ceramic coated UIM



Should I just reuse my non-ceramic coated UIM until I figure a fix for this?
Old 09-23-10 | 12:18 AM
  #124  
KKMpunkrock2011's Avatar
dorito powered

iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,839
Likes: 0
From: Lincoln, NE
find a nut that fits on the threaded portion of the ait sensors, have the hole for the ait sensor widened so the nut fits in, weld the nut in, you're good to go.
Old 09-23-10 | 01:08 AM
  #125  
millennm's Avatar
Full Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 166
Likes: 0
From: South Jersey
Originally Posted by HardHitter
So I was able to get the ring back to the clutch and it connected but when I push the clutch to test it, there is no resistance. The clutch pedal does now pop back up, but no/little resistance. When I take a look through the peep hole when someone pushes it, the clutch is pulled just very slightly.
Clutch Install:
3/4s of the way down under reassembly.

The wedge collar or ring should be in the clutch to begin with.
With slave cylinder removed reach in hole where slave cylinder mounts with a strong hook. Pull end of clutch fork toward rear of car until you hear throwout bearing "click" in the wedge collar. Install slave cylinder and push clutch pedal. If wedge collar pulls out of clutch, then it's bent.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:38 PM.