I've seen variations between the ARC SMIC's. The originals have a low flowing core and there's "newer" style that has beveled or radius tops to the inside of the core where the air passes through. Personally it's aluminum, 30% bigger than stock, stronger, prettier, and mounts perfectly with the factory duct. I think think it's a good candidate...

 

This is a good thread with good info.... How about posting pics of the various IC's.... I am still debating whether to go front mount or smic...

Thanks

 

There are tons of info on FMIC and SMIC. Do a search it should come up with a few threads

 

You can get ASP intercoolers from GooRoo and Damian here: http://2dperformance.com/intercooler.asp

Looks like the IC is under revision right now though.

The Pettit looks like it will work very well.

 

Here is an updated list...
I've put ?? on SMICs without any performance feedback

Greddy (uses original duct)
Blitz (less capacity than greddy)
ASP (m2)
PFS (PFS airbox suggested with use to get most out of SMIC)
Pettit Racing CoolCharge 1-3
ARC/ARC Race (slightly thicker) (30% bigger than stock, uses original duct)
Re-amemiya (?)
Ebay Special (XS power?, reports of poor welds and not holding up to high boost)
hks (?)
Knightsports (?)
Mazdaspeed (only slightly better than stock)
SR-Motorsports (?)

-From what I have heard, the M2 units are excellent.
-Here is an interesting thread about PFS vs. Greddy.
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/pfs-vs-greddy-smic-100691/
The general consensus is that PFS is worth it over greddy if the PFS air intake box is included.
-Updated info on blitz vs. greddy
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/aftermarket-smic-stock-airbox-637130/
-updated info from mono's contribution

A while back I remember seeing a site with comparisons of SMICs. If someone could find that lets add it to the thread.

 

By the way, does Stock Mount IC means it can fit stock fitment while we don't have to re-locate things around in the engine bay area?

 

No. Stock mount just means it mounts in the same general area as the stocker. For example the Pettit Cool Charge III is a SMIC but you need to relocate the battery and ditch the intake box. If it's not VMIC or FMIC then it's probably SMIC.

 

there is the DIY method:

i spent about $550 building mine. same specs as the pettit cool charge III (17" x 12" x 3.5" core)

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2616329/25

 

theorie has pretty much the same setup that i'll be running except mine is an ebay xs power SMIC. same dimensions as his and with 2.75inch outlets.


(also gonna use the pet. intake duct - considering an electric fan on the SMIC inside the ducting)

 

PF Supercars Large Race SMIC with duct. Mine is for sale if you are interested.

 

Who you tryin to sell to? The original post was back in 08..

 

I have a polished Blitz SMIC which mates to the stock duct coming in soon...

 

yeah i put an e-fan on mine...helps in traffic...also extended the duct a little bit:

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2616329/31

 

^^^ NOW you're talking!

 

Hey Dominic, here is the Mazdaspeed SMIC and Mazdaspeed Carbon Air Box

 

The MS smic retailed for close to $2700, the intake wasnt much cheaper, very expensive pieces. For anyone interested, I have a re-amemiya smic and also a trust/greddy smic available in Japan.

B

 

I got a RE Amemiya SMIC recently, from Bryan:

 

I found another picture of the Mazdaspeed SMIC

Here is the link:

http://www.greenline.jp/catalogue/fu...0%2813B-REW%29


Standard IC direct replacement. 106mm core thickness (standard IC 62mm). 15% greater efficiency. ¥228,690

 

how good is the XS power cooler from ebay.. cause right now i wont be able to afford any of the other Brand names...

would i be able to fit it in the 98 jdm fd.. cause i think i have a different pipe.. which comes from the turbos.. rather than the black pipes on the 93 i guess.. im not sure..

grimple1- mate hows the fit.... let me know ok

 

Go with godspeed or CX racing. Xspower seems to have manufacturing issues. Also keep in mind that an IC without aduct is worthless... So either fab your own, buy one, or stay stock.

IMO brand name IC's are way over priced and it was a very lucrative business for a while there. As most sell for over 1K and truth be told it's just an air radiator that does not come close in seeing the harsh environment that an actual radiator sees and yet they are 4X times the price

Think about it a radiator in general must withstand temperature extremes from below zero C (car is off and overnight somewhere in Alaska) to above 120C + (a car overheating). Not only that, the radiator sees prolonged operating temps (on average) of 100C and see pressures of above 16 psi (if one is using a 16 psi rad cap but designed to withstand much higher pressures). An intercooler sees heat and pressure in sporatic instances (WOT) So what the F… why is a brand name SMIC being sold for $1400 while a rad is $350 where is that $1050 of manufacturing costs coming from? I have no idea... I could picture a few hundred dollars more due to lower production numbers (regarding cores as manufactorers just buy cores and weld in endtanks to make it car specific: every car has a rad but not all cars have an IC) but not 1050...

BTW I have godspeed SMIC (same size as pettitt/m2.asp/ PFS large) and it works great. No leaks whatsoever and it cools just fine.

 

hmm very true mate that is also why i dont want to buy a brand name intercooler, first i wont be able to afford.. second i just dont see the point.. here in aussy people are making 1000HP on various cars without any brandname coolers... so my point it should work on the 7 as well...

so what you are saying is the xs is ok to use if i make my duct... or suggesting to go for something bit better like the godspeed... another thing i realised is that how will i fit it as mine is a 98 and already has e metal compression tube coming from the ypipe-turbos... so if i take that off i would have to make a flange so that the sillicone of the intercooler piping can go on top of it.??? right ?? cause if i take the compression tube off then it will be just screws ??

 

Well i've heard that there are quality issues with the XS ones and given that the godspeed and CX racing ones are relatively the same price as the XS, I would opt for the latter ones..

Correct. I'm thinking you have the nice Y pipe that bolts up to the tubing... You can always have new tubing made to mate up directly to the Y pipe.

 

yea mate that is true i mean i was not that fussy with air leaks and all on my trueno but with the rx7 i dont want to have anything messy and not professional... thus i plan to get my own cooler the measurements are 450mm/300mm... i dont think i will be able to fit that into the car without replacing the battery... will post pics as soon as i get it

 

When thinking about the price of ICs, don't forget that fabbing the piping can get very expensive real quick. So can fabbing a duct. It ain't as simple as it looks until you try and fab your own. I did would prefer to never do it again.

 

I have an ARC SMIC (11.875 x 5.75 x ~2.625), about 38% bigger than stock, for sale. It uses all the stock mounting points, uses stock hoses and duct and is in excellent condition.