Is this a hard job as a DIY kinda thing? Me and my friend would like to replace all of my hoses/lines with the better ones and he is very good with cars and wondering where can I get the hoses from?


I hear that having this job done at a specialist will cost at least $400? So if I buy the materials myself, which can't be that expensive because it's just silicon hoses, right?

Thanks.

-Dan.

 

You can do it. It just takes time, patience, and confidence.

 

first -silicon is not the best, it tears easy and gas and oil soften and swell it ,viton is best but cost alot . Garfinkle uses Buna-n hose .you can find it at auto parts store at low cost. He has done several over the years and they are still going. silicon will not hold up but the colors are pretty. Do you wont to go fast or be pretty ?

 

What is buna-n hose?

 

Buna -n is a type of rubber like viton is a type like silicon is a type . Call hose and gasket company . you need 40 feet of 4mm thick wall and 10 feet of 6mm thick wall . Garfinkle buys it by the roll.

 

Is it easier to deal with? Is it more resistant to petroleum-based chemicals? How much more expensive is it than silicone tubing?

 

What are the pricing range for each hose material?

It shouldn't be that expensive right?

-Dan.

 

It is easy to use ( make bends ect ,) you do not neen a razer blade to cut like silicon ,if silicon has a rought cut it will split open. ,silicone is useless Garfinkle will not do a job if the kid (kids like the colors ) must have silicone. Most chemical resistent O -rings are Buna-n ( does that tell you any thing ) Viton is the most money ( customers do not like the cost) silicon is next but will not do the job well for long. ( get a small length and play with it . Buna -n is cheap. call a hose store and get the facts . There different grades of zip tyes also but that is another story

 

Who the **** is Garfinkle and why doesn't he post on here himself. You are starting to sound like Mr. Akimoto.

 

That's funny. In the past 4 years I've never had a silicone hose rip or tear or degrade on me, and I've removed my UIM several times, too. Well, my hoses aren't exactly the el-cheapo style you can buy. I went through several before I found the ones I like. Mines have a nice thick side wall to prevent any kinking even on a u-bend, I get no kinking.

It looks interesting..
http://armstronghose.com/constr.htm

 

There are a lot of people with the hose techniques silicon hose and I don't hear anything negative from them. That's what I'm going with.

 

Did a little search on Buna N, and its just a trade name for Nitrile rubber.

Im my opinion, viton and nitrile would be overkill for this application. Nitrile is used for things like fuel hose. I've never heard of anyone having problems with silicon, and the stuff that I got from Hose Tech was great.

Who is Garfinkle?

 

FYI guys, I was just looking in my McMaster Carr catalog at different hoses. And one thing that really scared me about the Buna N hose was that the upper temperature range of the hose is 212F! Whereas the upper temps for the silicon and viton hoses were 450F and 400F, respectively. I don't think Buna N hose would be a good choice.

The cost of the Buna hose was around 30 cents per foot, the silicon was like 50 cents, and the viton was around $2.25.

 

All this talk about silicone hoses, Amazing. Anywho get it from www.hosetechniques.com I assure you it is good enough.

 

paw140: I made that same comment last time the Buna-N hose was touted. That low temp rating scares me, especially for hoses directly in the turbo area.

I don't think the silicon hoses are terrible. There are a LOT of people that have been running them for quite some time with no problems. Yes, they tear easy with a rough cut and they are susceptible to degradation from oil and gas, but these problems aren't seeming to raise their head very often.

It is a fact that viton makes for a better hose but the price is not acceptable for most people.

I have heard the Hose Techniques hoses were not that good, but I have heard no negatives and plenty of positives about the hoses from both Baker Precision and Armstrong.

BTW, who the **** IS Garfinkle? You have been asked that question several times duboisr and have never answered. You post about what he does or does not do in nearly every post. Does he run a shop or work out of his house or is he your 3rd person personna?

 

Hose technique **** is what most east coast tuners are using so what have you heard about it. You say you headr bad things about them but you didn't say what?

 

FD3Boost, I've heard that it is not very thick-walled and kinks easily. Just what I've heard, not personal experience. Everyone I've seen post about the Baker Precision really likes it.

When you say "east coast" tuners, do you mean KD Rotary? I guess if KD uses them, they can't suck.

 

Well I won't say who all because it's not my place to give out their info but I have seen 3 large east cost tuners use that hose. It is actually very thick walled and does not kink easily. You gotta pinch the **** out of it to get a kink.

 

I don't know much about the others you mentioned so I couldn't say weather they are good or bad.

 

I did some looking on the hose techniques page - pretty cool site. Check out:

http://128bitencrypted.com/hosetechn...31914811035230

good pic of the rats nest on a new 13b using their instalation kit

 

I'll most likely go with the silicon ones since it's what most are familar with and a good choice to use.

So it's around 50-60 feet of this stuff and each feet costs around......... say $0.20 and that should equal out to about $12 plus tax?

$400 to get it done at a specialist? That's quite the labor charge. Oh well.... Only time will tell if my own work was worth the effort......

Thanks for the replies.
-Dan.

 

You dont have to take the engine out to replace your hoses do you? I have heard you dont. just all the top side things? anyone?

 

Its more like $0.50 to $0.75 per foot depending on where you get it. McMaster Carr was the cheapest I've seen it, but they only have red and translucent white. I paid like $80 from Hose Tech.