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Old 10-07-02 | 11:14 PM
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scary integra, how are my chances

ok there is thta badass integra in my area. its a newer model with a b16 drop in i belive, now that isnt bad still takable heres the thing. i ran him and right off the bat u can tell he has more than just the b16 i won (only by just shy of 2 car lengths) and we pull over to a gas station. i noticed an octane booster in the back of his car and i asked him to pop the hood it was quick but this is what i saw. mugen valve cover(means didily i know) msd ignition looked like custom exaust headers (sounded like there were no cats of gutted) stock injectors, AEM stand alone ECU, but here is what scared me. 4 individual throttle bodies. this was custom **** i have seen stuff like this in magazines but never in person no throottle body no intake just 4 mini polished cups it looked like sucking air right into the engine. i heard a ticking from the exaust he must have been running lean im assuming thats why i took the win but this guy sunk some serious $$ into the car.

later on i heard he runs around 13:1 compression and got a lot of the custom **** done at this place DRT. either way im in NY if u have heard of that place or know anything about some of the stuff i just said please tell me, im gonnd be running him again sat night and i wanna know what im in for (im assuming sat night he will not be running lean)
Old 10-08-02 | 12:42 AM
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first off you would have won even more if he wasnt running lean. a combustion engine makes most power as it runs leaner. next, try www.honda-tech.com
the individual things you were seeing were TB's. its gotta be super tuned for that, thus why you saw the AEM, and octane boost, oh yeah, that stuff works wonders. just a b16. well atleast if you lose you can say its cause your motor is smaller
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Old 10-08-02 | 02:14 AM
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race him in the twisties as well as at top speed

No chance for the integra. 1/4 mile wise, could be either one...
Old 10-08-02 | 02:37 AM
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B16 is not a powerfull engine to have in an integra. With all that work, he would have been better suited for a B18 or B18C5. What is with the honda hating? Most of them on the road are no more than a pile of FG, however some do have the ***** to take out many of us here on the boards. Anyways, 2 cars is quite a distance...Nice job?
Old 10-08-02 | 03:40 AM
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Old 10-08-02 | 04:17 AM
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Make sure he isn't on the bottle, that's the only chance he has hanging with an FD.
Old 10-08-02 | 04:29 AM
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the integra didnt have a b16 in it. it either had a ha22 (prelude motor) or a b18 (teg motor) b16 is for civics. what were your mods?
Old 10-08-02 | 05:15 AM
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b16's for civics? 94-2001 gsr's have b series motors, and the b16 is a b series. the mounts are the same. i have a friend that has a b16 with a stroker kit in his 94+ integra. he works at www.jakesracingengines.com
Old 10-08-02 | 08:04 AM
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it may have been a b18 now that i think of it heh what do u want from my i drive a car that runs off a beer keg.

suprfast the individual things you were seeing were TB's. its gotta be super tuned for that, thus why you saw the AEM, and octane boost, oh yeah, that stuff works wonders.
what exactly r tbs i heard they are a way of funneling in some major air also i heard his engine was ported. is that possible with whatever those things are. heh it sucks man bets are already starting to go on the table and i gto a vac leak i better get cracking today where can i get good vac hose asap?

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Old 10-08-02 | 11:14 AM
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my moms miata had individual throtles. it was a tmw setup. it kicked ***. we ran the system with a link stand alone from flyn miata.

we had the quietest exhaust possible with good flow, so that you could hear the intake sound.

it was ******* beutifull. a deep roar off the line and it would just scream past 6000 with the cams we had in there. we would get pulled over for it and have to explain what the sound was.

she recently sold it and bought a beamer.
Old 10-08-02 | 12:16 PM
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I hope it wasn't a B16a, that means he swapped to a smaller motor.

I highly doubt he has a bottle with individual tb's and 13:1 compression. If tuned right, that car is capable of 11's.
Old 10-08-02 | 12:44 PM
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What are YOUR mods? It really depends on that.

I raced a buddy of mine a few times. He has a 93 civic hatchback with an Integra typeR B18c spraying 130 shot and was on slicks. The car has also been extensively lightened.

I thought that I was going to have my *** handed to me. We raced 3 times from a dead stop (for about 1/4 mile) and I beat him every time (he forgot to arm his nitrous on one run). He was not far behind me tho. I consider myself a good racer and this guy is good too.

I was running about 13lbs. of boost which is about 315-320 at the wheels in my car. Of course I do have 315/35/17 Kuhmo race rubber on the back of my car.

If this guy is running n/a with individual throttle bodies and an AEM standalone. He still can't be pushing 200whp and an Integra is not a super light car. It's hard to say without knowing your setup/whp..etc..
Old 10-08-02 | 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by rx7beginner
Make sure he isn't on the bottle, that's the only chance he has hanging with an FD.
you've obviously never met a well moded integra. They can get down to 11s and 12s too... withOUT a bottle.
Old 10-08-02 | 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by legendrx7
If this guy is running n/a with individual throttle bodies and an AEM standalone. He still can't be pushing 200whp
Oh yes they can. I've seen plenty n/a B-series pushing over 200whp with just the stock ecu. Individual tb's can make tremendous power if tuned right.
Old 10-08-02 | 01:57 PM
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yeah, I got to thinking about it over lunch. that guy could easily have over 200whp in that car n/a. I wouldn't assume much more than 230-240whp tho. Then he has to deal w/ the fact that it is FWD. Damn hard to hook up good on the street w/ a fwd car, unless he has slicks.

It still just basically boils down to how strong your se7en is and how good of a driver you are
Old 10-08-02 | 03:24 PM
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Hell, just race the guy. Whether you win or lose, just have fun!
Old 10-08-02 | 03:30 PM
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Well, the spoon valve cover could NOT be a rice addition. It could be a real SPOON motor? Did you see his tach? I know spoon and mugen make motors that rev well past 10K RPM and put down 240whp on the B16. If the integra is lightened, it will give a stock FD something to play with. If he fixed it up past the spoon package, then the car could make well over 200whp. Hybrid hondas are nothing to laugh at in the end. And if you get a good light hybrid, it WILL handle well. Going from a B18 to a lighter B16 could help handling and still yeild good power for a FWD integra.

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Old 10-08-02 | 03:44 PM
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Please mods, for all that is Holy move this thread from the 3rd gen forum before it becomes defiled by FWD feces. General Automotive, Lounge, Kills, whatever.
Old 10-08-02 | 03:46 PM
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dont be scared of the littel honda. Buy you a single turbo and be done with it. Full exhuast, pfc, intake, upgraded intercooler of any sort( greddy 2, there on sale). there would be no way that thing could hang with you. there -isnt that many tegs that run 12s being NA . on the street there isnt thast many that run 12's with turbos or with n2o. JUst tell him you motor is all stock, thats what I do!!hehe. dont pop your hood, just be a ******* about it.
Old 10-08-02 | 03:51 PM
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I dunno but a hb with a JDM Type-R motor couldn't even beat my friend's e36 m3.

Civic had:
Type-R motor, headers, cam gears, exhaust, intake

m3 had:
chip, tri flo exhaust, and intake

m3 took him but not by that much.
Old 10-08-02 | 04:31 PM
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most people would not swap a B16 into a 3rd Gen Integra. B16A is 160hp/111 ft-lb torque, its a vtec motor, but not really worth the money into a 3rd gen. B16B (Civic Type R motor) might be another story, but for that money, you might as well get a B18C1 (GSR) or B18C5 (ITR) What color was the valve cover? Genuine Mugen Valve covers are grey and cost a shitload, like $900...Mugen crated engines..no clue never bothered to call on that. Yea its still FWD and NA, but theres plenty of stuff you cant see, who knows what kinda cams or pistons hes running, sounds like hes put alot of work into making it be fast as NA, with some tuning, it could be close. who knows, sounds like a good race. keep us posted.
Old 10-08-02 | 04:45 PM
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i was running about 12 lbs of boost b4 i had a leak i beat him with about 10 lbs and right now im running 9. im fairly confident in my driving other than street launches. my tires are worn and i often hesitate cause i dont wanna have problems hooking up but if i launch arounnd 3grand it isnt that bad of a problem. i gonna see if i can get my vac leak fixed b4 sat but i got a feeling that is wishfull thinking.

um i forgot the color of the valve cover, nothing cheam looking like blue or green i think it may have been a dark silver and the letters were raised in polished metal look)

i gotta talk to the kid who sets up the races cause he is friends with the hooked up integra.

oh btw i dont think i mentioned it but i love the kids plates "Game Over" i nearly **** my pants when he rolled up cause rumors were going around that a dealer paid pretty for a tuned car and was beating a lot of the big boys (we got a few formula 1's/ camaros that have been done up pretty decent) anyway everyone was talking about this kid game over. heh now im the kid who is known as the tuned rx7..... i got 2 bolt ons a tower bar and 2lbs extra boost on stock ecu sure as hell aint tuned. either way it should be a fun weekend. i sure as hell will keep u guys posted im just as excited to see this guys engine as u r
Old 10-08-02 | 04:48 PM
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93ttrx7, what r ur mods im just curious
Old 10-08-02 | 05:35 PM
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you've obviously never met a well moded integra. They can get down to 11s and 12s too... withOUT a bottle.
READ the original post, I know for a fact that this integra is not well modded . Looks life be beefen up his motor for nitrous. A b-16 will not get you 12's unless it has freaking turbos or nitrous. Going all motor will exceed 10k. And I don't this this integra owner is that dumb.
Old 10-08-02 | 05:40 PM
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engrish, muddafucka, do you speek eet?

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