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ech 06-24-02 10:28 AM

Ping - ping ......

mkoch1 06-24-02 10:54 AM

rx7even,
When you get done with modifying the stock bracket let me know how you did it. I converted my lights a while ago, but never figured out how to modify the stock arm to only open half way. Right now I just manually run them up and down. My car isn't street driven so it's not big deal. Didn't feel like spending the money on the pivot controller. I am sure you are busy but if you get a chance pm me.



Here's a picture of my lights
http://www.markkoch.net/images/newrx7/lights/light1.jpg

http://www.markkoch.net/images/newrx7/done/side5.jpg

Good luck on your kit, I know it's a lot of work.

DK 06-24-02 11:10 AM

This is totally cosmetic suggestion with a bit of function and I'm not sure if anyone said it because I only read part of the first page, but I think you should put the projector on the outside and the high-beam on the inside. Since the low beam projector is what generally would be running, you'd want it to the outside (1) to widen the lit area, and (2) to widen the look of the car. It wouldn't look right if the signal cluster up front spanned so much wider than the headlights did. And if you look on many "sporty" cars with the projector/high separates setup like the JZA80, Integra, and BMW, they have the setup that I'm talking about.

rx7even 06-24-02 05:27 PM


Originally posted by ech
Ping - ping ......
Ping.

Just to give another update, I now have time to work on them, but as anyone in Florida can confirm, it hasn't stopped raining for 5 minutes in a couple weeks it seems. Where I live we're getting like 2 inches or rain a day. Where there's a will there's a way though, so I'll get working on these things again ASAP.

We had a get together at N-Tech here in FL a couple weekends ago, and I tossed the lights on so people could see them and comment on them, and everyone seemed to love them. :)

Ryan

rx7even 06-24-02 05:36 PM


Originally posted by mkoch1
rx7even,
When you get done with modifying the stock bracket let me know how you did it. I converted my lights a while ago, but never figured out how to modify the stock arm to only open half way. Right now I just manually run them up and down. My car isn't street driven so it's not big deal. Didn't feel like spending the money on the pivot controller. I am sure you are busy but if you get a chance pm me.

Good luck on your kit, I know it's a lot of work.

It's a LOT more work then I expected when I started, but it'll be worth it in the end. I'll try and get a PM to you shortly.

Ryan

rx7even 06-24-02 05:46 PM


Originally posted by DK
This is totally cosmetic suggestion with a bit of function and I'm not sure if anyone said it because I only read part of the first page, but I think you should put the projector on the outside and the high-beam on the inside. Since the low beam projector is what generally would be running, you'd want it to the outside (1) to widen the lit area, and (2) to widen the look of the car. It wouldn't look right if the signal cluster up front spanned so much wider than the headlights did. And if you look on many "sporty" cars with the projector/high separates setup like the JZA80, Integra, and BMW, they have the setup that I'm talking about.
That's exactly how they're set up. The lows are on the outside, but when I took the pictures before, I wasn't able to set them up that way. The lows WILL be on the outside though when all is said and done.

Ryan

RX-7TTSparco 06-24-02 08:43 PM

wow those Headlight's are hot i like them...

95R2-89TII Ground Zero 06-25-02 12:07 AM

Those look awsome. How much. I don't know if I would want those or the RE Amemiya yet....but its a good race now.

rx7even 06-25-02 12:59 AM

Shooting for $600-$700, but we'll see once everything starts getting produced. That's what I've figured up so far though.

Ryan

Badog 06-25-02 01:11 AM

Nice work!

ech 07-24-02 04:18 PM

It has been a month, time for a <Ping>.

rx7even 07-24-02 07:56 PM

Perfect timing actually. I put them in the car yesterday exactly as I'm planning them to be when finished, and found a bunch of stuff that had to be changed around. I got mad at it and almost decided to just give up on it. Then just a couple hours ago, I was talking to a well known rotary shop (not saying who yet) about the lights, and he seemed interested in them and it's quite possible we'll be working together to get them finished and perfect very soon. I have to say though, when I put them in the car yesterday and walked away and looked at them, my face went from :mad: to :eek: . Good things to come. :D

dclin 07-24-02 09:54 PM


Originally posted by rx7even
Perfect timing actually. I put them in the car yesterday exactly as I'm planning them to be when finished, and found a bunch of stuff that had to be changed around. I got mad at it and almost decided to just give up on it. Then just a couple hours ago, I was talking to a well known rotary shop (not saying who yet) about the lights, and he seemed interested in them and it's quite possible we'll be working together to get them finished and perfect very soon. I have to say though, when I put them in the car yesterday and walked away and looked at them, my face went from :mad: to :eek: . Good things to come. :D
If you don't hurry up, I'm gonna go outside and make a kit for myself! J/K!;)

rx7even 08-08-02 01:41 AM

Who wants an update? You? Ok here goes! I was given the go ahead to say who is helping me on the lights. It's Nick at N-Tech Engineering. I've been up at the shop everyday recently for hours and hours and hours building these with him, and they've already exceeded my expectations. I'm going to hold off describing them at this moment, but trust me, stay tuned for an incredible light kit in the next couple weeks. There's also a few options planned for it too for those who like pondering over decisions. ;)

Ryan

Hang in there Dclin, trust me, they're going to be WELL worth the wait.

dclin 08-08-02 01:55 AM


Originally posted by rx7even
Hang in there Dclin, trust me, they're going to be WELL worth the wait.
Got me just as I was heading outside with my tools. Ok, I'll wait (puts tools down).:D

cabaynes 08-09-02 01:06 AM

man, i dont even have an FD yet, but i am so excited to see how these things turn out... ill probably order a set and just save them until i get one, lol... really cant wait to see the final pics, ive been following this from the begining :D

JimmyJimboJet 08-09-02 01:24 AM

i'm with stoked. was actually going to pm you tonight about the lights rx7even. i will be *patiently* waiting for the final word... and some nice pics....


my loins are quivering in anticipation...

Sidestick 08-09-02 01:07 PM

Hey man, hurry up! Those original KnightSports lights are starting to look mighty good!:p: j/k, but I really need some new headlights. The plastic brackets on my stockers are all broken up the housings are just wired up in there!

ech 08-13-02 12:31 PM

Wow, That's great news! I'm looking forward to the next update/pics

95R2-89TII Ground Zero 08-13-02 01:49 PM

I like them too, but I think that the offset should be a lot smaller than what you have now.

rx7even 08-13-02 09:09 PM

There is less stagger then in the pictures. There's just enough so that it's noticable, but not so much that it doesnt look right. It follows the contors of the front of the headlight opening perfectly. Take the last picture I posted, move the inner light up just a hair, and there you go. The headlight cover should also be a LOT lower then in the picture. We're trying to make it just about flat when it's open. Good good things coming very very soon.

untaymd 08-13-02 09:39 PM

looks awesome so far. question? how are you stopping the cover so it doesnt come all the way up anymore? Also, this kit would look very nice with the 99 front bumper.

ntech 08-13-02 10:15 PM

Hi. I just wanted to give some insight as to what is currently happening with the lights.
First, I decided to take on this project because the lights are most definitely better than the stock lighting is. It is something that would certainly be of more than cosmetic benefit to 3rd gen owners.
As to the progress, etc.. In looking at what was happening, and talking about what Ryan had set as his original goals, we started from scratch, fabricating new brackets that bolted into place. The idea was to not have to mess with the original lights at all. Pull out the old, and drop in the new. Then the practicality of price entered, as well ease of fabricatrion, and as much as anything else, the time involved to complete the prototype, it was decided to use the mounting bracket from the original light setup. You still will not have to cut ANY part of the car, as this is completely unacceptable to me.
I've been asked for a date of completion, and the best I can offer is at least a month before a FINISHED kit would be ready. It is easy to get so far with it, and then the little details can kill you. Things like a fiberglass front cover around the lenses, working out the adjustment details, instructions, etc., all take time. We are getting closer to a working prototype now, but perfection takes some time. I am working on the mechanical drawings tonight, which should provide some useful progress. I still have a business to run, but I have been dedicating about 4 to 5 hours a day to this, about every other day. I also have a brake backing plate kit in the works that will allow use of dedicated brake ducts, for the stock brakes, as well as 13 and 14 inch rotor kits. All this stuff takes time, but it is coming. N-Tech's goal is always to provide QUALITY parts, without gouging the customer, so expect it to be a quality kit.

Hope this gives some insight,
Nick
N-Tech Engineering

rx7even 08-13-02 10:17 PM

*edit* nevermind, Nick just sumed it up pretty well.

dclin 08-13-02 10:25 PM


Originally posted by rx7even
There is less stagger then in the pictures. There's just enough so that it's noticable, but not so much that it doesnt look right. It follows the contors of the front of the headlight opening perfectly. Take the last picture I posted, move the inner light up just a hair, and there you go. The headlight cover should also be a LOT lower then in the picture. We're trying to make it just about flat when it's open. Good good things coming very very soon.
As long as it does not open too flat of an angle - somewhere between Mark's angle above (which is pretty flat hehe) and the Knightsport kit, which is still a tiny to tall for me.

Want it to look like a factory job, not like some rice boy mod.;)

rx7even 08-13-02 11:12 PM

They should be higher than Mark's lights, but I'm hoping not a lot higher. It'll be above horizontal though. It'll be far from a ricey homemade job though. Like Nick said, if it's not perfect, then it wont be made until it is. Anyone else getting excited? Hhmm, I am!

dclin 08-13-02 11:19 PM


Originally posted by rx7even
It'll be far from a ricey homemade job though.
Meant from a styling stand point (I'm sure the tech execution will be excellent;) ). How high it opens and whether or not it looks good is purely subjective though, so it's just my opinion. Just seen too many drifter cars with the sleepy look (or the almost fast asleep look as the case may be). Lower then stock is better, but not too low.:)

the_glass_man 08-13-02 11:21 PM

Will these be offered with HID lows as well?

rx7even 08-13-02 11:26 PM


Originally posted by dclin


Meant from a styling stand point (I'm sure the tech execution will be excellent;) ). How high it opens and whether or not it looks good is purely subjective though, so it's just my opinion. Just seen too many drifter cars with the sleepy look (or the almost fast asleep look as the case may be). Lower then stock is better, but not too low.:)

That's kinda what I meant, it just didn't come out that way (I have that problem, hehe). It should be right around what you're looking for though; lower then the Knightsports, but higher then Mark's kit. There, that's what I meant. :)

rx7even 08-13-02 11:30 PM


Originally posted by the_glass_man
Will these be offered with HID lows as well?
That's definetely being planned. We're already trying to leave room for everything so when we get the normal lights up and running, the HID's should just "pop right in" with no modifications (to the kit itself).

the_glass_man 08-13-02 11:32 PM

Hmm, I love the popups but hate the lighting. I want HID's but I don't want to lose my high beam.
This sounds great!!! I can't wait.
:D

the_glass_man 08-20-02 04:16 PM

just wanted to know how the progress is coming.
Any new pics or updates???

spoolin 08-20-02 05:12 PM

hey nick! i called you monday(8/19/2k2) about the intake system. don't forget to start making those things in a couple of weeks. a reminder for you to start up production again. :)

ryan, email me or give a call. i've got some questions about what to do for my car.
spoolin7@midsouth.rr.com 901)340-9585 i'll call back - free long distance

rx7even 08-22-02 12:00 AM


Originally posted by the_glass_man
just wanted to know how the progress is coming.
Any new pics or updates???

Not just yet, still working on getting things perfect. We'll update as soon as there's news though. :)

Ryan

rx7even 08-22-02 12:04 AM


Originally posted by spoolin
hey nick! i called you monday(8/19/2k2) about the intake system. don't forget to start making those things in a couple of weeks. a reminder for you to start up production again. :)

ryan, email me or give a call. i've got some questions about what to do for my car.
spoolin7@midsouth.rr.com 901)340-9585 i'll call back - free long distance

I'm in the process of moving right now (don't worry, won't affect anything with the lights), so I'm a little busy at the moment, but I'll try to shoot you an email sometime tomorrow when I get to my new place.

KibagamiR2 08-22-02 06:35 AM

Sweet... I am glad I found this thread... I am a bit partial to the pop-ups, though the Rotary Extreme HID sleeks had been tempting me for some time now. However HID projector low rise popups are definetely more attractive to me.
If there's a listfor these.. I want on it, please :D
-Kib

Mr. Stock 08-22-02 08:30 AM

Please offer the kit without the actual lights as well... since I had already bought the Hellas to try to make the half height light kit myself.

MazdaMike 08-22-02 08:57 AM

just curious but have u come up with any estimates on how much longer before u finish this cause i am very interested on seeing the final product
-Mike

wptrx7 08-25-02 09:34 AM

any updated pics? and are you still planning on including a carbon fiber housing for the lights?

luigi

wael.el-dasher@efini.net 08-25-02 10:16 AM

Well, I am almost done with the brackets for a HID system on my car. I don't think its going to be affordable (as usual), because I am using sealed HID aux. lights from Hella. One is projector for driving and the other is high beam. Each set of lights was about $750 or so. But there is still the brackets to secure them, plus custom covers. It will probably take 3 weeks to get it all up and running on the car. It all depends on the bodyshop. I think what I am making is gonna be a one-off though.

cheers

W

Bill B 08-26-02 08:23 AM

Re: Re: alignment of the lights
 

Originally posted by rx7even


You and I are on the same wavelength right now. The first advantage I thought of to having the low beam on the outside was that it would light up a wider area, although not really by much.

The main reason for having the inside light lower is pretty much asthetic. If you look the Miata kits or the 2nd gen RX kits, the light pods all have a flat bottom, so putting in a kit with the lights level looks perfect. On ours, the bottom is curved, so having them at a different height fits better I think. I did tear the bracket apart and move the lights around, and now have the lights at a 1/4" difference instead of the 1" difference, and I can tell already that this way is the winner. Also, following the curve of the body, the outside light is set back some from the inside light (you can't tell that in Picture #2 because the lights are actually on the outside of the bracket, not the inside where they go, so they'll be set back more in the car too). It's not much, so it shouldnt block the light any.

I'm still looking into HID's too, for these lights. Apparently in Japan they have a kit that fits. It's still a possibility at this point. I had an opportunity to look at Bill's headlights a couple weeks ago. While I'm sure he put a lot of work into it, you can defintely tell it was a one off production. I was looking at the way he had the lights mounted and just had to scratch my head and wonder why in the world he did it that way, but I suppose it does work. I also lit up one of the Hella's against his HID, and it doesn't really appear to be that much different (keep in mind also that it appears he used driving lights for his, the ones I'm using are DOT legal). :)

I have to install a Fluidyne Rad in my car tomorrow, so I'm going to try and take pictures of the install and maybe do a little How-To writeup, and while I'm there, I'll install the lights again and take some pictures of it with the new changes. Should have them up here tomorrow afternoon.

Ryan

I just spotted this post and got a great laugh. Ryan do you really believe that I would
leave my car at Pettit and then leave the country with any part of my finished lights or any
other project anywhere near the car? And you just justified my concern. Do you believe
that it is ok to dig through my car without my being there? I just thought I'd ask.

froggy 08-28-02 08:59 AM

update? I'm looking forward to a date when I can nab me a set of these!

rx7even 08-28-02 12:21 PM

Mr. Stock - It'll probably be possible to offer them without the lights too. In fact I don't see why it wouldn't be possible.

MazdaMike - We should have the prototype up and running real soon. We've changed my origial design quite a bit, so it's taking a little longer to get them up and running.

Wptrx7 - As soon as the prototype is on the car, I'll take a couple picks and post them. The carbon fiber surrounds are still planned, but will probably be optional, with a fiberglass surround standard to keep the cost down for those that don't want cf.

Bill B - At the time I had no idea that was your car, or that it even had anything other then stock headlights in it. I was at Pettit and had my kit there to show Cam. We hooked a jumper wire to the lights to see the beam pattern, and he asked about HID's. To show me some HID's, he walked over to your car, turned on the lights for a few seconds, turned them off, and that was it. Finished or not, I just got a quick glance, and that was my impression from them. From what I saw, they did look pretty nice. No one went digging around or snooping around anything though. It probably took longer to read this then the time I spent looking at your car. :)

froggy 09-11-02 09:12 AM

Well, Whats the word? Is it looking like I will be getting an early christmas present this year?

akathugs 09-11-02 07:06 PM

Pictures? Updates?? Come on man~ Just can't wait
to see the final thang.

JimmyJimboJet 09-11-02 09:37 PM

ryan, that's your que to come out and say,"They're finally done! the price is only $500 dollars, and i'll knock it down to $400 if you tell me the lights look great..." ;)

rx7even 09-12-02 02:24 AM

Good news! They're.........Ok, well I can't say that yet. I'll try and call Nick in the next couple days to see where the lights are at. If there's anything new to add, I'll post it here.

user 84205 09-12-02 03:28 AM

RYAN,
Hows it going bro? Everything not just the lights haha.. After all this bro, I hope they turn out like you want along with the many customers I hope you have...

Jason
www.jt-imports.com

ech 09-20-02 01:06 PM

wow - how time flies - been almost 6 months since this thread started. Hoping they make it out in the next 3 so I can try them.

ech 09-20-02 02:41 PM

I just ran across this too, a light available in Japan. Interresting - I've never seen anyone mention it before.


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