In U.S. dollars that means you have enough money to purchase a schwinn...

 

^You mean a used Shwinn...

No way does the Supra handle as well as a 7. The only reason it did was because it had wider tires. So there.

With $100k, you can get a 3 rotor and totally blow away a Supra. If money is no factor, the 7 has more potential. So there.

I don't care about creature comforts. I don't care about gas mileage. I don't care about maintenence. So there.

I care about looks. I care about handling. I care about exclusivity. I bought a 7. So there.

Some like a challenge. Get a 7.

Some don't. Get anything else.

20b is god. So there.

 

i like the supra interior better, as far as materials go... not alot of plastics to break and lots of rattles like the 7... but i still like the 7's feel of the cockpit, and the 7 all around more.....

 

Wow, have you been studying under Zerobanger? I think I'm actually dumber for having read that, so I can sympathize with what must be going on (or not) in your head...

 

i have personally owned both and i would go with a supra actually im in the prcoess of a t78 install so i cant say nething till i drive that!

 

i have a tt 7 my boy has a tt supra and we both say a 96 gts viper about 35k and the hennassy tt package 50k and its all over but the guy trying to catch up

 

i usually dont participates in these arguments that dont end... but i was thinking.... (EDIT: Since its been going on for what like a year?)

if you beat the **** out of a motor its GOING to die. a rotary is just more fragile. its like a living thing. other motors can handle more crappy beating job, its like u have a larger margin for error but with the 13b you dont, one tiny problem could blow your motor whereas with pistons it can take more abuse.

i got my FD because it is the most beautiful(to ME) without being flashy, lightweight, and it is much faster than most cars. You are never going to have "the fastest car"... someone is always going to have a honda that has a faster 1/4 mile no matter what car you have.

vipers are pretty(a bit too flashy for me) but heavy as **** and the *** is not that pretty.

corvettes are a bit less pretty (not as detailed in shape) but still heavy and has a big ***.

other japanese cars are just fat and ricey looking and every 16 year old has an impreza/lancer these days.

italian cars, well id take a ferrari, porsches i like performance-wise but im not really into the bugeye, lambos are a bit expensive and not pretty, the old diablo was nicer looking (i used to want one as a kid).

sure i'd drive those but i'd rather drive an FD than anything else because to ME its the perfect car.
a supra would probably have been one of my top choices maybe 2nd or 3rd. but its heavier and this riceness kinda emanates from it, even if it is one of the more respectable japanese cars. i guess its cuz its kind of fat and/or it was the fast and furious car. these two cars seem to be legendary in terms of japanese cars, and the FD is just a bit more mystical.

i agree with you can never finish arguing because you will always be able to provide evidence for YOUR standpoint if YOU want to believe that you are right.

 

So 3,360 lbs. is "heavy as ****" these days?

Again, 3,212 lbs. (Coupe), 3,208 lbs. (Convertible), or 3,117 lbs. (Z06) is heavy? And that "big ***" is functional... it makes the car stable to well over 200 mph, BTW.

I'm starting to see a trend which tells me you don't know what an average car weighs, and you're judging everything by the weight of a car that's almost too small for a 6-footer to sit in comfortably and makes a Honda Civic look big, but OK...

Better not, the Modena is a portly 3,064 lbs. and the 911 Turbo literally crushes the scales at a bloated 3,480 lbs. Of course it has AWD too...

True... 3,450 lbs.

Well, at least that's valid...

 

i dont plan on going 150+ mph very often so to me the big ***, like monster rice wings, would be useless. its not so much its size that i dont like, its just that its so plain. its just a rectangle with circles on it. i really dunno how else they could make it look though.

in terms of japanese cars being fat i meant lookwise, they take up space... i guess i didnt clarify. its like a fat guy with a large surface area could weigh less than a guy whos all muscle and has less surface area... im not talking about the weight.. im talking about just i mean come on! look at it, its fat and ricey looking! they didnt used to be fat but the new cars are getting fatter and fatter... for example u know like eclipse fat. 350z fatness. audi tt is fat as well. they just have that round fat look. does anyone understand what im trying to say!?

itlian cars i didnt really mention weight, the only thing going against them besides the price for me is just im not as attracted to their looks as the FD.

some cars not by much but they ARE heavier than the FD.

its not so much ONE aspect that beats them all by a lot its just put together it has what i, personally, look for. its lighter, prettier, mysterious, etc.

the only thing missing is the t top...

 

Just being heavier doesn't necessarily mean worse. Take a look at the Z06's. They are making a killing in the SCCA so much that many cars are being moved (or trying to be moved) out of it's class. At 3100lbs and 405hp, that's a pretty good power to weight ratio (about 7.5/1). Think about the FD in stock form: 2800lbs at 255hp which is about 11/1.

And then a Viper at 3350lbs at around 500hp... on a track, these things are just damn beautiful to watch tear it up.

Handling doesn't ONLY revolve around weight.

 

i have to dissagree with you on japanese cars being fat. you refered to the 350z. my cousin drives one, and it actually is pretty small. Its a little tall though. Please dont dis out every car just because you own a rx7. I agree that its prolly one of the best cars ever created, but to dis a covette Z06. man what are you smoking. There beautiful, fast and handle as well if not better then our cars. What about the Viper, who the hell would ever argue with 500 horse in a 3350 lb car. Not to mention that they stop from 60 in less then 100 ft, and handle as well as our cars too. I do love supras, perhaps not as much as i love FDs. I plan to buy one when i can afford a 2nd summer car. I think i will buy one for my girlfriend, and mod the **** out of it, so she can terrorize all the local insecure boys in town.
Adam

 

Another thing you cant argue with is a 4 door family car that can get up and move like a **** (evo). A guy from my town owns a modded one and took first place for that DSM thing in columbus OH. He beat that sick *** Proven evo, becuase the guy bogged the launch. Hes got a huge *** trophy to prove it too. His car was in Modified magazine.

 

i didnt say other cars are not as good. i said why i personally decided to choose this particular car.

i already stated power is not taken into consideration in my views since i personally dont need "THE FASTEST" car. 300+ hp is plenty fast enough FOR ME, im not a pro drag racer.

im not trying to change YOU ALL's views, im just stating mine.

im not saying my car is the best because i have it. im saying i got it because it is the "best" (best being my definition of best)

i really do not like the shape of the 350z. i meant the shape is fat... a kid who is 4 ft and fat is still fat compared to someone who is 6 ft, not fat and weighs twice as much... u still understand what im trying to say... i drove a rental maxima for a few days, it was brand new, it looked like a van or something. it was massive. i mean sure it has what a 14/15 second 1/4 mile and could eat hondas for breakfast but ok its ugly as ****.

i mean if you prefer the fat look go ahead more power to you... every car looking fat and people still buying them cant be wrong right? im just saying that I DONT prefer the fat look.

why cant i argue the 4 door thing? i dont want a family sedan.

i mean i love and respect the viper, vette, evo they are in the top 5 choices of my cars but i was saying why the fd edged out over them for ME.

i mean 4wd its nice and vipers and vettes im always excited when i see one... why can you people just stay away from getting to offended and getting personal so often?

 

LOL.

blueskaterboy, I agree with a lot of your opinions on the proportions and look being "fat" on a lot of the cars mentioned.

I don't like the 350z's looks. I don't particularly like the corvett'es looks, esp from the rear. Though I like the the coupe better than the fastback from profile(I think that is the two models?). I don't particularly like the roundness of the supra(though I agree it is quite a performer). And I didn't like the angles of the 300zx.

But, an exception to my general agreement, I LOVE the look of the mid viper coupes(esp the ACR). It's "over the top and in your face" styling, backed up by the unquestionable capabilities... some call it a bit cartoonish looking, and I won't disagree, but it just *works* there. It's all out, ***** to the wall...

Back to the 7 that has my garage slot. I love the taught lines of the rx7. I love the feel of the cockpit around me. I love the sensations I get when driving it. I think the rotary engine is cool(so call me a geek, I don't care). I think the twin turbo is fun. I like the fact that I don't see many driving around, that when 3 or more are parked together it becomes a "meet". Salivation factor played large into MY purchase decision.

I also think it is funny that a lot of times when people come into this forum and post "Should I get xyz or an rx7" almost all the time people recommend AGAINST the rx7. Only in this "I've got free money and nothing to loose" scenario are people pushing for the rx7. I think it is kinda like "If you have to ask, you don't instinctively love the rx7 enough to put up with its ****." is the attitude of most. lol! Just my thought. Nobody get pissed about it.

 

yes vipers are very flashy and pretty, i like the targas... but yeah... i like my car...

but wait im confused about power to weight... woudlnt it be hp/lbs. not lbs/hp????

 

Of course everyone in here is a RX7 fan and drives an RX7, of course we would go for rX7.

Spank my friend Supra twin turbo though!!!
so why supra??

 

because there motor is built incredibly form the factory

 

Ok, but how can you take weight into your consideration and not power? If the FD is at 2800lbs, but only made 120hp, would you have still gotten it? Doubtful.

You can't say other cars are heavy and then discount the fact that they make more power. That's really being closeminded ignoring the parts of others cars that make them better than the car you happen to like.

If you like your RX-7, great. Just say "I bought my car because I liked it", that's what I say. But don't say other cars are "heavy" as being a bad thing as that is not the case (unless it's a full spec race car ).


It doesn't really matter as long as the actual numbers are correct. 1/11 or 11/1 (power to weight, weight to power), it's the same thing as long as you display what you are comparing to in the same manner (i.e. 11/1 -> 7.5/1 or 1/11 -> 1/7.5... the comparison is the same).

 

Supras are rare? not over here,every other ****** has one,along with his ****** medallion.Puke!

 

rx all the way brother, only 2700 lbs come on man and not only that its not a boat go rotary

 

If it makes you feel smarter, then yes. You are what you feel you are. Dumb? Ok... 20b....still god.

V82L8

 

ok mahjik i apologize for my illogical words.

but im not driving a stock fd either. lets say i made my car just as fast as a viper(maybe not the new one... yet....) two cars that have the same speed, id take the lighter one.

really what i meant was this car is already faster than 13 seconds so thats pretty damn fast.
its really really fast... a car that is really really really fast i mean thats nice but this already meets my requirements and since they are both between 11-13 seconds the little difference in speed doenst really matter to me that much. we'll say maybe 13 seconds was my threshold, they are both 13- cars, so next attribute, lets look at weight.

EDIT: if YOU care about the tiny difference in speed or want an 8 sec car or whatever, thats YOUR business!

 

Who brought this thread out of the dead and why?

 

IMO this is a useless thread.

 

^Life is a cycle... everything must come round. The Universe is not constant... it expands and contracts.

Even the forum is not immune to the laws of the space.
.
.
.
Damn, I wonder what kind of mushrooms they put in my pizza...