RS*R Coming back to the US + Pics and Review of thier New Exhaust
#1
RS*R Coming back to the US + Pics and Review of thier New Exhaust
As some of you may or may not have heard RS*R is going to be making a comeback to the states very soon. In the past RS*R and Racing Beat use to be partners, however, they both decided to split from one another and now are two different entities. Racing Beat kept their location in the states, while RS*R closed their market in the US, and stayed in Japan, where they still remain very popular with Japanese car enthusiasts.
Also, if you didn’t know, RS*R use to make all the exhaust lines for Racing Beat in the past and had and still has a reputation for being one of the most trusted, reliable, and most outstanding manufacturers of performance parts around. Mainly in suspension and exhaust lines, which RS*R will be mainly focusing on first here in the states. That Being said, RS*R will now have a Head Quarters in the US, located in Long Beach. They are still in the process of building their shop and they will be releasing their first line of products sometime early next year starting with a new type of exhaust systems, which I was sponsored and given to give my full and honest opinion on.
Here are some of the key break downs of the EXMAG GTII Full Cat Back Exhaust System stated from Alfred of RS*R USA -
1) The new exhaust line system from RS*R are called EXMAG GTII.
(Short for exhaust magic gt 2)
2) It has 80mm mandrel bent piping and a 101mm exhaust tip. (Slightly larger than the HKS Carbon Fiber TI Hyper exhaust system, which I previously had on my car, but we will do a comparison on them later.)
3) Also, the inner diameter is true 80mm unlike the HKS that shrinks to 60mm
and becomes very restrictive:
*Which makes this is a true high flow system.
*The inner silencer is removable and is included with the exhaust system for
free.
RS*R
with silencer
RS*R
with out silencer
HKS
with out silencer
4) It has Ceramic coated piping, and is very straight.
5) The welding are Robot Tig welded for great looking welds.
6) Comes in a high polished full stainless steel muffler section.
7) Sound level is under 94.3 db rating with silencer. (Street legal)
8) RS*R is still determining pricing but it will be very competitive with all other high end brand name exhaust systems on the market, such as Greddy, HKS, Apex, ect…
Look for www.rs-r.com or www.TurboImport.com for more details coming soon for RS*R products.
Also, if you didn’t know, RS*R use to make all the exhaust lines for Racing Beat in the past and had and still has a reputation for being one of the most trusted, reliable, and most outstanding manufacturers of performance parts around. Mainly in suspension and exhaust lines, which RS*R will be mainly focusing on first here in the states. That Being said, RS*R will now have a Head Quarters in the US, located in Long Beach. They are still in the process of building their shop and they will be releasing their first line of products sometime early next year starting with a new type of exhaust systems, which I was sponsored and given to give my full and honest opinion on.
Here are some of the key break downs of the EXMAG GTII Full Cat Back Exhaust System stated from Alfred of RS*R USA -
1) The new exhaust line system from RS*R are called EXMAG GTII.
(Short for exhaust magic gt 2)
2) It has 80mm mandrel bent piping and a 101mm exhaust tip. (Slightly larger than the HKS Carbon Fiber TI Hyper exhaust system, which I previously had on my car, but we will do a comparison on them later.)
3) Also, the inner diameter is true 80mm unlike the HKS that shrinks to 60mm
and becomes very restrictive:
*Which makes this is a true high flow system.
*The inner silencer is removable and is included with the exhaust system for
free.
RS*R
with silencer
RS*R
with out silencer
HKS
with out silencer
4) It has Ceramic coated piping, and is very straight.
5) The welding are Robot Tig welded for great looking welds.
6) Comes in a high polished full stainless steel muffler section.
7) Sound level is under 94.3 db rating with silencer. (Street legal)
8) RS*R is still determining pricing but it will be very competitive with all other high end brand name exhaust systems on the market, such as Greddy, HKS, Apex, ect…
Look for www.rs-r.com or www.TurboImport.com for more details coming soon for RS*R products.
Last edited by Crashunit; 11-21-02 at 10:59 PM.
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My review on the EXMAG GTII exhaust:
1) Ok, first of as you can see from the pictures of the RS*R and HKS side by side, the RS*R exhaust already has a much better construction and has a straighter piping for better exhaust flow. It even comes with a built-in resonator which makes the FD sound a lot less like a weed whacker/helicopter and gives it a much deeper tone, which helps it sound more like a V-6 turbo race car. Also as stated above, it comes ceramic coated, which is a plus, and has a true inner diameter 80mm piping, which makes the outer piping thicker and seem larger like a 3 1/4 or 3 1/2 inch exhaust piping. So you know you aren’t getting cheated with a smaller piping exhaust system.
2) Ok now once on the car without the silencer it is just a tad bit less louder then the HKS one I had. On a scale of 1-10 where 1 is stock and 10 is full open exhaust, I would give it a 7, which is pretty loud, but livable. First thing I noticed as well at idle and driving around, the RS*R exhaust did not sound raspy or high pitched like the HKS unit I has previously owned. The exhaust also has a more consistent response and power delivery as well, unlike my HKS. Needless to say, the EXMAG GTII gave me a gain in HP and TQ too compared to the HKS CF TI, which could be felt at top end and at low end as well (Dyno runs with it compared to a stock FD will come shortly thru RS*R, since there was no Dyno's around we had access to and my car is far from stock anyways.) Now with the silencer on, it is like night and day, it becomes very quite, and I would rate it down to about a 3 or 3 ½ on my previous scale of noise level. I could barely hear my exhaust with the silencer and mainly heard only my intakes and BOVs, but did not feel that much loss in HP and TQ as well which impressed me, however, a heed of warning with people with silencers or who are going to be buying this type of exhaust. Do not boost more then stock levels with the silencer on, since it may or can hurt your motor, since it makes the exhaust a lot more restrictive for the trade off to keep it quite. However, with the silencer on you will not notice much power loss, just a lot less noise .
3) Now for my opinion as far as if the HKS TI CF exhaust is better then the RS*R EXMAG GTII exhaust goes. Here is my honest opinion: The HKS TI CF looks beautiful and I just loved the tip and CF wrapped canister on it, however many people thought it was too big, which it kind of is. I think the HKS wins in the looks category, since I like the burnt tip style, and CF canister. However the RS*R GTII is no slouch when it comes to looks as well, I love the design and polished canister and lip as well, and on the beauty scale of 1-10 where 1 is stock and 10 is the perfect looking exhaust (which I have yet to come by):
RS*R EXMAG GII gets an - 8
HKS TI CF Hyper gets a - 9
Now in all other categories as far as performance, build quality, race design, and name brand. RS*R wins hands down. I have had the exhaust on my car for over a month now and can say I love it and it has been the best exhaust system I have ever owned, and which is also why I sold my HKS one. I especially love the silencer which it comes with free, unlike the HKS which comes separate, however it is a bitch to take on and off . But it truly meets all requirements for people who want an exhaust system that is livable with the silencer on during the daily grind and a dependable race exhaust for the weekend races. It’s also not too big and not too small in my opinion a perfect middle ground looking exhaust for those who don’t like it too crazy looking, and for those who like it like that. Sorry for the long post but I hope you guys liked what you read and saw.
Thanks,
Marvin
1) Ok, first of as you can see from the pictures of the RS*R and HKS side by side, the RS*R exhaust already has a much better construction and has a straighter piping for better exhaust flow. It even comes with a built-in resonator which makes the FD sound a lot less like a weed whacker/helicopter and gives it a much deeper tone, which helps it sound more like a V-6 turbo race car. Also as stated above, it comes ceramic coated, which is a plus, and has a true inner diameter 80mm piping, which makes the outer piping thicker and seem larger like a 3 1/4 or 3 1/2 inch exhaust piping. So you know you aren’t getting cheated with a smaller piping exhaust system.
2) Ok now once on the car without the silencer it is just a tad bit less louder then the HKS one I had. On a scale of 1-10 where 1 is stock and 10 is full open exhaust, I would give it a 7, which is pretty loud, but livable. First thing I noticed as well at idle and driving around, the RS*R exhaust did not sound raspy or high pitched like the HKS unit I has previously owned. The exhaust also has a more consistent response and power delivery as well, unlike my HKS. Needless to say, the EXMAG GTII gave me a gain in HP and TQ too compared to the HKS CF TI, which could be felt at top end and at low end as well (Dyno runs with it compared to a stock FD will come shortly thru RS*R, since there was no Dyno's around we had access to and my car is far from stock anyways.) Now with the silencer on, it is like night and day, it becomes very quite, and I would rate it down to about a 3 or 3 ½ on my previous scale of noise level. I could barely hear my exhaust with the silencer and mainly heard only my intakes and BOVs, but did not feel that much loss in HP and TQ as well which impressed me, however, a heed of warning with people with silencers or who are going to be buying this type of exhaust. Do not boost more then stock levels with the silencer on, since it may or can hurt your motor, since it makes the exhaust a lot more restrictive for the trade off to keep it quite. However, with the silencer on you will not notice much power loss, just a lot less noise .
3) Now for my opinion as far as if the HKS TI CF exhaust is better then the RS*R EXMAG GTII exhaust goes. Here is my honest opinion: The HKS TI CF looks beautiful and I just loved the tip and CF wrapped canister on it, however many people thought it was too big, which it kind of is. I think the HKS wins in the looks category, since I like the burnt tip style, and CF canister. However the RS*R GTII is no slouch when it comes to looks as well, I love the design and polished canister and lip as well, and on the beauty scale of 1-10 where 1 is stock and 10 is the perfect looking exhaust (which I have yet to come by):
RS*R EXMAG GII gets an - 8
HKS TI CF Hyper gets a - 9
Now in all other categories as far as performance, build quality, race design, and name brand. RS*R wins hands down. I have had the exhaust on my car for over a month now and can say I love it and it has been the best exhaust system I have ever owned, and which is also why I sold my HKS one. I especially love the silencer which it comes with free, unlike the HKS which comes separate, however it is a bitch to take on and off . But it truly meets all requirements for people who want an exhaust system that is livable with the silencer on during the daily grind and a dependable race exhaust for the weekend races. It’s also not too big and not too small in my opinion a perfect middle ground looking exhaust for those who don’t like it too crazy looking, and for those who like it like that. Sorry for the long post but I hope you guys liked what you read and saw.
Thanks,
Marvin
Last edited by Crashunit; 11-21-02 at 10:58 PM.
#4
nice write-up
this is the kind of info we need on parts. maybe not every single part, but the general ones, ya know?
yayer, i like the look of that border also, is that the one that comes with the MP?
this is the kind of info we need on parts. maybe not every single part, but the general ones, ya know?
yayer, i like the look of that border also, is that the one that comes with the MP?
#7
crashunit, your car as well as the exhaust looks really really nice. When is it coming to the US and how much does it cost? I have the apex'i N1 single now with a midpipe, how do you think that the RB will compare to that in sound level and also power?
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#8
Nice writeup.
8) RS*R is still determining pricing but it will be very competitive with all other high end brand name exhaust systems on the market, such as Greddy, HKS, Apex, ect…
Originally posted by black99
Now, how much $$??
Now, how much $$??
#13
Originally posted by JimmyJimboJet
nice write-up
this is the kind of info we need on parts. maybe not every single part, but the general ones, ya know?
yayer, i like the look of that border also, is that the one that comes with the MP?
nice write-up
this is the kind of info we need on parts. maybe not every single part, but the general ones, ya know?
yayer, i like the look of that border also, is that the one that comes with the MP?
#15
Originally posted by 1FooknTiteFD
oh yeah, and crashunit, what type of Wing is that on yoru car? it looks nice
oh yeah, and crashunit, what type of Wing is that on yoru car? it looks nice
#16
Ok.... uh why was this moved to the group buy/Vendor Section.... Its not being sold yet . I just wanted people to know about RS*R comming back to the states with thier new line of exhausts for the FD, and I don't think being in this section will get as much traffic.... at the very least I thought if it were to be moved it would go to the lounge.
#17
Why would the market pays for another coffee can exhaust?
Coffee can exhaust are so 20th century ... C'mon people we're in the 21st century !!!
Don't follow the leader: create your own market by designing a center mounted exhaust. Either that or twin pipes so I can run a nice looking diffuser.
Coffee can exhaust are so 20th century ... C'mon people we're in the 21st century !!!
Don't follow the leader: create your own market by designing a center mounted exhaust. Either that or twin pipes so I can run a nice looking diffuser.
#18
Mods and People who missed my RS*R post
For those of you who missed this write up I did for the RS*R vs HKS exhaust go here:
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=134940
I made a pretty informative post about what you should look for when purchasing exhaust system, and pretty much gave some insider info on whats going to be avalible soon from RS*R.
And the only reason why I reposted this is because I still have'nt gotten an answer yet to why my post was moved to the Group Buy/Vendor section when I obviously was not selling a product that is not even released yet or being sold by anyone. It was just an informative post on exhuast systems. Im pretty sure once RS*R does become relased next year, the RX-7 Store will be carrying it as well, since RS*R is a wholsaler/manafacturer. And if it was because I also pointed out www.turboimport.com for more info on RS*R products is because Alfred runs that site (kinda like Ken from Motorex has Motorex to distribute C-west products) who is heading RS*S in the USA.
So that was the only reason why gave out two sites to get more info about their new exhaust systems. The USA RS*R site is also going to take longer to be set up as well, while Alfred's other site is updated more often. Its not like I was trying to steal customers or anything form the RX-7 store or even talk **** about one of the most popluar exhuast systems for the FD right now,which happens to be the HKS one.
I know the most of the rules here anyways. So If that wasnt the case, I just want to know why it was moved to the Vendor/Group buy section. Hell, you could have just put it in the Area 51 section, which would have been just about the same thing . I wouldnt complain so much about just a stupid post, but I took a good hour to write that thing up and its very helpful for people looking for exhaust systems, and if it had to have been moved, I thought at the very least it could have went to the lounge or some other performance section. So can you move it back here or somewhere its more stutible for people to find the kind of information I provided?
Thanks,
Marvin
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=134940
I made a pretty informative post about what you should look for when purchasing exhaust system, and pretty much gave some insider info on whats going to be avalible soon from RS*R.
And the only reason why I reposted this is because I still have'nt gotten an answer yet to why my post was moved to the Group Buy/Vendor section when I obviously was not selling a product that is not even released yet or being sold by anyone. It was just an informative post on exhuast systems. Im pretty sure once RS*R does become relased next year, the RX-7 Store will be carrying it as well, since RS*R is a wholsaler/manafacturer. And if it was because I also pointed out www.turboimport.com for more info on RS*R products is because Alfred runs that site (kinda like Ken from Motorex has Motorex to distribute C-west products) who is heading RS*S in the USA.
So that was the only reason why gave out two sites to get more info about their new exhaust systems. The USA RS*R site is also going to take longer to be set up as well, while Alfred's other site is updated more often. Its not like I was trying to steal customers or anything form the RX-7 store or even talk **** about one of the most popluar exhuast systems for the FD right now,which happens to be the HKS one.
I know the most of the rules here anyways. So If that wasnt the case, I just want to know why it was moved to the Vendor/Group buy section. Hell, you could have just put it in the Area 51 section, which would have been just about the same thing . I wouldnt complain so much about just a stupid post, but I took a good hour to write that thing up and its very helpful for people looking for exhaust systems, and if it had to have been moved, I thought at the very least it could have went to the lounge or some other performance section. So can you move it back here or somewhere its more stutible for people to find the kind of information I provided?
Thanks,
Marvin
#21
Originally posted by Crashunit
Can't any moderator answer my question? Or are all of you all out going drinking again like me?
Can't any moderator answer my question? Or are all of you all out going drinking again like me?
#22
You're going to have to start a petition to get your post moved back. It'll take 20,000 signatures to get it moved back into the 3rd gen section.. lol
All kidding aside it was a great informative post and nice to let people know that RS*R is coming back soon.
All kidding aside it was a great informative post and nice to let people know that RS*R is coming back soon.
#24
Good write up no the exhasut, but on a downside I have to say boo on the rear part of the body kit. Looks like the FD had its wisdom teeth cut out and has swollen cheeks or something. Wing looks great.
About the exhaust, since like body kits, everyone has different tastes, why do they all have to be round canisters nowadays that drop closer to the ground, leading to scraping issues? I like the PFS look with it being more oval and hugging up to the rear more, stock looking. Just my opinion on the exhaust.
Tim
About the exhaust, since like body kits, everyone has different tastes, why do they all have to be round canisters nowadays that drop closer to the ground, leading to scraping issues? I like the PFS look with it being more oval and hugging up to the rear more, stock looking. Just my opinion on the exhaust.
Tim
#25
Originally posted by fdracer
i say anything that involves the fd should be able to stay.
i say anything that involves the fd should be able to stay.
FD's in movies. (lounge)
my new WHEELS i put on my FD (suspention/wheel sec)
i raced a honda in my FD (kills sec)
i own an FD now...look at my pics (lounge)
any FD owners wanna meet up? (regional sec)
i have a stock FD IC for sale (3rd gen FS sec)
what body kit for my FD? (exterior sec)
i got a ticket while driving my FD (lounge)
how does the FD engine work? (general rotory)
the PFC i have in my car is acting weird (power FC forum)
get my point? you statement is way off and made no impact of my decision on what goes where.... thanks for your opinion though boss.
did you happen to read the sticky at the top of the page called "commonm sence"? apparently I am not the only one who feels this way.