Review of Antigravity RTX-30 Lithium Battery from SakeBomb Garage
#101
So true! When you hear terms like "it should/might work" or "it's been fine so far", your usually sitting on a ticking time bomb. Been there done that and it always bites you in the end.
#102
The fact there is no proof of a battery failure already makes it more reliable than the FD3S engine. lmao. We already know the common rebuild time on this motor. I am 4 month into this battery and its working like a champ. One guy above has been running it 18 months no problems. You guys want to call it a ticking time bomb? Well your ENGINE is a ticking time bomb too. lol Seriously, you are saying a reputable vendor is selling trash. I'm sorry I highly doubt that. I'll eat my words and let you know if something actually happens. Since the battery has been perfect I'm gonna say its still one of the best purchases I've made and I have actual experience with it on a FD3S that has a stock engine with minor upgrades, which is typical of most FD3S owners. I'm not hacking the car with crazy impractical upgrades.
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#104
The fact there is no proof of a battery failure already makes it more reliable than the FD3S engine. lmao. We already know the common rebuild time on this motor. I am 4 month into this battery and its working like a champ. One guy above has been running it 18 months no problems. You guys want to call it a ticking time bomb? Well your ENGINE is a ticking time bomb too. lol Seriously, you are saying a reputable vendor is selling trash. I'm sorry I highly doubt that. I'll eat my words and let you know if something actually happens. Since the battery has been perfect I'm gonna say its still one of the best purchases I've made and I have actual experience with it on a FD3S that has a stock engine with minor upgrades, which is typical of most FD3S owners. I'm not hacking the car with crazy impractical upgrades.
EVS.TurboTuner: "Nah, I've been walking around here for four months and can see the horizon - it looks flat to me. One guy and a company that sells flat earth technology also told me I will be fine, so I am going to stick with my disproven assumptions."
For those of you that are not EVS.TurboTuner, heed the recommendations of Antigravity and purchase for your FD either the ATX30-HD version or the 51R series battery. These are great batteries that will work well for the FD without introducing the risk of the battery management system shutting down power in the car.
That is all...
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DaleClark (11-03-20)
#105
I can keep this thread going can't I? lol. BTW I don't see you guys having confidence on the user who has owned the battery for over 18 months without issues including his friend with a LS motor. SMH.
#106
I really can't believe you had the time to make up a meme to be funny. lol. What I find funny is you took the time to do that. BTW, the only oner person that had a problem was David Hayes and his completely not stock car. How many FD owners have a three rotor seriously? His setup probably draws a ton of power compared to any modified 13b engine. There are at least three people in this post that has zero problems, but one that has a problem and you side with the one guy that has a completely different type of FD3S than 99% of FD3S owners out there.
Last edited by EVS.TurboTuner; 11-03-20 at 01:51 PM.
#107
BTW, Sakebomb Garage told me they have sold 40-50 batteries with zero issues. 10 of their shop cars run these batteries as well. The fact I can't find any evidence of failures lead me to believe David Hayes problem is isolated. Sure you can recommend another battery, but you cannot say this battery won't work for most people. As there is again ZERO evidence of that. Like literally zero evidence of a normal FD3S that has a failure due to this battery.
#110
EVS.TurboTuner continuing to ignore what the battery manufacture has stated and plastered on their product page for this battery.
https://antigravitybatteries.com/pro...-oem/atx30-rs/
I'm sure he's gonna pick out that AG doesn't state the FD by name on the product page. They have called out the largest markets for the battery where the problem has occurred, and have (through Mr.Hayes) stated that the FD specifically is toeing the line at best for the regular 30 model.
But yeah there is no possibility for a problem to occur with the restart feature clearly and AG is just fear mongering on their own product page and in their own responses to get an extra bill out of you with the HD and 51R models they made to resolve this problem. It's all a huge conspiracy by the battery industrial complex and it goes from David Hayes all the way to Elon Musk at the top.
Buy the correct battery. It's the same size, damn near the same weight, and only slightly more expensive. Like anything else on the cars, cheap out at your own risk
Not sure when advising in favor of an OEMs statements and specifications became controversial but here we are.
https://antigravitybatteries.com/pro...-oem/atx30-rs/
FORD OWNERS: Due to Ford’s own vehicle “PCM Controlled Smart Charging System”, the ATX-30 and other RE-START Models are not working well with this Ford System. So at the moment our RE-START Batteries are not recommended for Ford Vehicles unless the Forscan Tool is used to change to the non-Smart Charge system within the car. We are currently working on a solution for this.
We can recommend the Antigravity YTX-20 and YTX12-24 Models since they do not have the restart feature, but note these Batteries do not have a low-voltage cut-off to Protect from Over-Discharge. They are recommended only for Race or Hi-Performance use where monitoring of the Battery’s Voltage is done more often.
Please Note: For Custom V-Twin applications with Motor sizes over 103 Cubic Inches, and when a higher compression, or modified motor is being used we do not recommend the RE-START version of our Batteries due to the extremely high current draw of these Larger V-Twin Motors. Please use the following models for Large V-Twin Applications: YTX20, YTX12-24, YTX12-20, or V-10.
We can recommend the Antigravity YTX-20 and YTX12-24 Models since they do not have the restart feature, but note these Batteries do not have a low-voltage cut-off to Protect from Over-Discharge. They are recommended only for Race or Hi-Performance use where monitoring of the Battery’s Voltage is done more often.
Please Note: For Custom V-Twin applications with Motor sizes over 103 Cubic Inches, and when a higher compression, or modified motor is being used we do not recommend the RE-START version of our Batteries due to the extremely high current draw of these Larger V-Twin Motors. Please use the following models for Large V-Twin Applications: YTX20, YTX12-24, YTX12-20, or V-10.
But yeah there is no possibility for a problem to occur with the restart feature clearly and AG is just fear mongering on their own product page and in their own responses to get an extra bill out of you with the HD and 51R models they made to resolve this problem. It's all a huge conspiracy by the battery industrial complex and it goes from David Hayes all the way to Elon Musk at the top.
Buy the correct battery. It's the same size, damn near the same weight, and only slightly more expensive. Like anything else on the cars, cheap out at your own risk
Not sure when advising in favor of an OEMs statements and specifications became controversial but here we are.
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#111
Think the points have been well covered 20 posts ago. If EVS.TurboTuner wants to take the risk, that's their choice
That said, there's probably still some good beating left on this dead horse
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#112
Yeah I’ve got the little plastic badge and everything. Are you from internal affairs?
#113
I really can't believe you had the time to make up a meme to be funny. lol. What I find funny is you took the time to do that. BTW, the only oner person that had a problem was David Hayes and his completely not stock car. How many FD owners have a three rotor seriously? His setup probably draws a ton of power compared to any modified 13b engine. There are at least three people in this post that has zero problems, but one that has a problem and you side with the one guy that has a completely different type of FD3S than 99% of FD3S owners out there.
#114
5 months later and running strong. I know you are praying for me to have a disaster so you can say I told you so. lol In all seriousness this is my review and again zero proof of catastrophies. I believe Sake Bomb sold 40-50 of these and they said no problems. 10 of these batteries are running in their shop cars. They report no issues, and I'm certain people that have problems will post proof. Be on your happily merry way.
#115
I said it before, I say it again. I don't wish any catastrophic failure on you or anyone else and I hope it works out for you and you don't get hit by anything weird with the restart feature. I'd like to think that nobody on this forum wishes anything ill on their fellow FD owners there's really not that many of us left around.
Adequate proof has been posted that the restart version of the ATX-30 is not the correct battery from AG that people should be using in this day and age. Plenty of issues with it documented from AG and other vehicle forums and no amount of what-a-bout-isms change the facts.
If someone is shopping around today and wants the "30" form factor, the ATX-30-HD is the correct battery. Its a fairly new product and hopefully SakeBomb can update their product catalog to offer it at some point.
Adequate proof has been posted that the restart version of the ATX-30 is not the correct battery from AG that people should be using in this day and age. Plenty of issues with it documented from AG and other vehicle forums and no amount of what-a-bout-isms change the facts.
If someone is shopping around today and wants the "30" form factor, the ATX-30-HD is the correct battery. Its a fairly new product and hopefully SakeBomb can update their product catalog to offer it at some point.
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David Hayes (11-05-20)
#118
- Guys I like this thing I bought, its working great!
- I had trouble with mine, mfg says it's not really recommended for us we should use the bigger one.
- Well, I already got this one and its fine so far I'll keep using it and if something happens report back.
- Ok
- Ok
- The end
- I had trouble with mine, mfg says it's not really recommended for us we should use the bigger one.
- Well, I already got this one and its fine so far I'll keep using it and if something happens report back.
- Ok
- Ok
- The end
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#119
not much to add to the brand, but after going through several small Odysseys and a Braille every 9-12 months on my RX8, I broke down and bought a high-end endurance race car battery from Voltphreaks; 59 Ah / 1390 CA / 9 lbs. Still works as good today as it did when I bought it over 10 years ago. Even with a 25% discount, it cost quite a bit more than what’s being discussed here, but is rebuildable/repairable and and had some custom electronics that weren’t so common back then; low V auto-shutdown, remote push button “on” switch, etc. I’d rather sacrifice a few lbs for reliability and 330+ cranking rpm starts. Was worth every penny over the dreaded click-click-click or holding your breath on a slowish whirrr-whirrr-whirrr at an event compared to hitting the switch and it firing right off, but then the RX8 has a high Amp draw EPS rack too ... if the cheaper smaller one works then fine, but I’d cast my vote for the paying extra and living with a few extra lbs on the larger one.
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#120
It has been four months, this past weekend I parked the car for 4 days without driving it. Started right up this morning no issues. I stopped driving because my a/c temperature switch failed as it was not properly blending the air. Waiting on the replacement switch! Need that a/c working again, I am from Texas! Still shocked how amazing this tiny battery is and the significant weight savings.
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EVS.TurboTuner (11-18-20)
#122
#123
I have been using the AG-1201 12 cell battery for 2+ years now, works OK.
This is a quite small battery, 336 cranking amps.
Disclaimers: not a street car, no AC, no ABS. That said, it has only failed to start once, and that due to something draining it.
This is a quite small battery, 336 cranking amps.
Disclaimers: not a street car, no AC, no ABS. That said, it has only failed to start once, and that due to something draining it.
#124
Good to know, how much does that one weigh?
#125
2.25 lb.
I am using a battery holder from Lowbrow Customs
https://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/produ...mbled-aluminum
Can also be found here:
https://thegasbox.com/products/batte...dc5d47d3&_ss=r
I am using a battery holder from Lowbrow Customs
https://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/produ...mbled-aluminum
Can also be found here:
https://thegasbox.com/products/batte...dc5d47d3&_ss=r