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Old 06-14-02, 06:51 PM
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Is this an R1 or Base Model??

Is this a dealer with an R1 for $16,500 or is this a base model. You tell me.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1836592984

It has the velour type interior, R1 strut bar, Front spoiler.

It is at a buy now price of $16,500 with only 52K miles.

What do you think of this???
Old 06-14-02, 06:54 PM
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Damn, looks like a very good deal, but never know. Everything looks super clean. Hope everyone else doesn't think so also and buy it out from under you.
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Looks like an R1.
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Simple, call and ask if there is a oil cooler in the passenger side duct. If it does (since its a manual), its a R1.
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No cruise on wheel, my old base had cruise. Muffler looks funky so does the F bumper. Check for the pass side oil cooler. The Rest seems right to be an R-1. Bought mine with 15K miles for 13K $$$ a year before the TF&TF.
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looks like an R1. has a R1 strut bar. R1 spoiler. black high-stick cloth interior (R1 characteristic). no sun-roof (R1 characteristic). No cd-player (another R1 characteristic).

the only thing that bothers me is the cruise control (although, i didnt see the cruise control cable in the picture of the engine bay). R1s are not supposed to have a cruise control.
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R1 have not cruise control.
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definetly an R1, there is no cruise
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it said that it has cruise contorl!!!!!!!!!!
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I looked at an R2 a few weeks ago..ad said 'cruise cntrl' but the car was definately an R2: it had no cruise, 2 oil coolers, everything. I think the dealers try to sneak one by on un-informed buyers, or either they really don't know anything about the car.

Looks like an R1 to me...
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Originally posted by Section8
I looked at an R2 a few weeks ago..ad said 'cruise cntrl' but the car was definately an R2: it had no cruise, 2 oil coolers, everything. I think the dealers try to sneak one by on un-informed buyers, or either they really don't know anything about the car.

Looks like an R1 to me...
16k for is good price R1 or not. But it kind of hard to say on picture. The seat is a R1 seat. But all those can be swap. the engine looks clean and well taken care of. I will take it if I don't have a FD already.
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Ok, Now pay attention.
You are correct that the AD states that it has cruise control, but when you look at the dash (above the A/C controls) & steering wheel......
No Switches !!!!

I would say this is a dead give away that it doesn't have it.

Without verifing the 2nd oil cooler, you can't be Positive that it's an R1, but all the other items are correct, like.....

Front strut bar, Front spoiler (with brake ducts), Rear spoiler, Cloth seats.

Plus all the stuff it shouldn't have...
Sunroof, Bose stereo, Auto trans, Cruise Control ....

Call the # & ask the salesmen to email you a close up picture of the L/H & R/H ducts, below the turn signals.

Why anyone would want an R1 is beyound me!!
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It sure looks like an R1.Seems like A good deal.
I gave 13,000 for my
Red R1 in August just after TF&TF came out.Mine had
50,200 miles on it.They've definitly got more expensive
since TF&TF!!!!But they are worth it.!
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Looks like an R-1 with either a crappy aftermarket exhaust or the twin tailpipe fell or rusted off and the single outlet is left. Did anyone notice that the car has the usual bad oil pressure sending unit problem? Engine is idling at 900 rpm, but oil pressure gauge shows almost zero pressure. Engine compartment looks like it has been unmodified- no missing parts or extra wires or holes. Everything else looks R-1: no sunroof, no rear wiper, velour seats, no cruise control, even though ad says there is, no fog lites, real R-1 front strut brace, rear spoiler. can't tell if there are two oil coolers or if it has the rock hard shocks. If engine has good compression and no coolant o-ring problems and if turbos are OK, it looks like a good deal.
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"The combination of styling and performance coupled with the reliability that mazda is known for makes this vehicle an absolute joy to drive." - Reliability? Said in reference to a 3rd gen? Hah The absolute joy to drive part is true though.
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It's an R1 i went to see it today, and i even test drove it. That baby can fly. It's not like my touring, but i don't know it's still beautiful. I just love red FD's.
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One thing seems a little odd to me though. Isn't the front strut tower bar on the 93 R1's supposed to be adjustable? That bar looks like the ones from the 94-95 R2's. Not saying it's not an R1, it most probably is, but I wonder if it was in an accident or something that caused it to be replaced.
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Originally posted by jr
One thing seems a little odd to me though. Isn't the front strut tower bar on the 93 R1's supposed to be adjustable? That bar looks like the ones from the 94-95 R2's. Not saying it's not an R1, it most probably is, but I wonder if it was in an accident or something that caused it to be replaced.
This is true. That strut tower bar is not adjustable but it definately looks like an R1. In case you havent noticed it has a 2/92 build date as well. Most of the R1's were built early on and the early built ones had the mud gaurds or splash gaurds whatever you call them. I would jump on this one if i was looking for one, but i already have my own black R1. Oh and the muffler thing it looks like one of the tips fell off no big deal.
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damn, that one looks very clean
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i dontthiunk it is because the strut tower bars on all the 93 R1's I have seen are adjustable. The years that follow are not!
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Re: Is this an R1 or Base Model??

Originally posted by Tim McCreary
Is this a dealer with an R1 for $16,500 or is this a base model. You tell me.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1836592984

It has the velour type interior, R1 strut bar, Front spoiler.

It is at a buy now price of $16,500 with only 52K miles.

What do you think of this???
looking to buy another FD tim? what the status on your auto FD?
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Oh man if that thing was in NJ it wld be gone already!!!!!

I always had a thing for red FD's.
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Yeah 2 oil coolers,no bose system and a strut brace is a pretty good give away for a R1
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did anybody see the oil pressure on it?? idling at almost 900 rpm.. and no oil pressure.. oh well must be a bad sender problem
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That's a pretty clean looking FD. If that dealer was in MA, I'd grab it up.
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