propper break in time before tune?
#1
propper break in time before tune?
I just rebuilt my first rotary motor its a 13b rew for my 3rd gen, anyways i used the full atkins kit, and i followed there dvd, and a bunch of documents i have been reading up.. anyways it took me about 4 hours to assemble my motor with me taking my time.. its finally together and looks great!
anyways I have it in my car now but i havent started it yet or filled it with oil.
I want to get it dyno tuned since i have quad 850cc injectors, and the PFC now. Do I have to run this motor for x amount of time before i get it tuned? or can I just start it drive it to the dyno on the basemap, then up the boost and tune away?
anyways I have it in my car now but i havent started it yet or filled it with oil.
I want to get it dyno tuned since i have quad 850cc injectors, and the PFC now. Do I have to run this motor for x amount of time before i get it tuned? or can I just start it drive it to the dyno on the basemap, then up the boost and tune away?
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Not with 850cc primaries you won't. You'll have to adjust the settings in the commander for them, under settings/inj. raise the prims to 850cc and lower the percentage to 64.7%.
Crank the car with the EGI fuse pulled, 3-4 times for ten seconds a pop. this'll help to build oil pressure.
Check for leaks once you get it fired up, make sure you have good oil pressure, keep an eye on both temp on the stock gauge and the commander. It really helps to have one person in the car and one person at the engine bay. Also, good idea to put a jumper pack on the battery, or jumper cables leading to a running car. New motors flood easily, make sure you have at least 12.5 volts on your commander screen. Once you get it running, keep the revs around 1500 (raise it in the rev/idle screen).
hope this helps!
P.S. re: break-in, first 500 miles revs below 4k and minimal boost, change oil and filter, next 1000 miles revs below 6000 and boost less than half a bar (7ish psi). change oil and filter again, then you're ready to get tuned. This is assuming new bearings in your motor, if not you can probably cut the mileage down a bit. Keep in mind this is a conservative breakin schedule, with used bearings some guys will just drive right up on the dyno with 5 miles on the fresh build
Crank the car with the EGI fuse pulled, 3-4 times for ten seconds a pop. this'll help to build oil pressure.
Check for leaks once you get it fired up, make sure you have good oil pressure, keep an eye on both temp on the stock gauge and the commander. It really helps to have one person in the car and one person at the engine bay. Also, good idea to put a jumper pack on the battery, or jumper cables leading to a running car. New motors flood easily, make sure you have at least 12.5 volts on your commander screen. Once you get it running, keep the revs around 1500 (raise it in the rev/idle screen).
hope this helps!
P.S. re: break-in, first 500 miles revs below 4k and minimal boost, change oil and filter, next 1000 miles revs below 6000 and boost less than half a bar (7ish psi). change oil and filter again, then you're ready to get tuned. This is assuming new bearings in your motor, if not you can probably cut the mileage down a bit. Keep in mind this is a conservative breakin schedule, with used bearings some guys will just drive right up on the dyno with 5 miles on the fresh build
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yes it has new bearings in the rotors, I was thinking that id just get the motor running, then drive it around town for a week or so, should net around 200 miles city driving, and about 50 miles highway then get it tuned. I will go longer if needs be but im not wanting crazy numbers.
Im only thinking 330rwhp on my motor should do nicely.
I have pretty much all bolt ons for the stock twins,
front mount intercooler
3" stainless exhaust
hks intake
hks ignition
pfc
and my housings and irons got sent off to be street ported before i assembled it. so i have a ported motor also.
while the turbos were off i made them non seq and ported the wastegate to the correct size the flapper allows. should do well.. im only thinking 13psi.. i should be able to hit 330rwhp and get some good life out of it while running really hard!
im just worried about the break in period before tuning!
Im only thinking 330rwhp on my motor should do nicely.
I have pretty much all bolt ons for the stock twins,
front mount intercooler
3" stainless exhaust
hks intake
hks ignition
pfc
and my housings and irons got sent off to be street ported before i assembled it. so i have a ported motor also.
while the turbos were off i made them non seq and ported the wastegate to the correct size the flapper allows. should do well.. im only thinking 13psi.. i should be able to hit 330rwhp and get some good life out of it while running really hard!
im just worried about the break in period before tuning!
#5
im absolutly sorry. i thought i said thanks in my first post.. my bad..
Thanks man.. and ill get more miles on my car than that then.. ill be driving to bonzai racing for my dyno tuning as there closest rotary specialist.. them or aspec, so regardless who i take it too ill get 300-400 miles driving on it just going to the dyno. plus the 250 ill have around town. so ill have around 700 give take some mileage before tuning.
Thanks man.. and ill get more miles on my car than that then.. ill be driving to bonzai racing for my dyno tuning as there closest rotary specialist.. them or aspec, so regardless who i take it too ill get 300-400 miles driving on it just going to the dyno. plus the 250 ill have around town. so ill have around 700 give take some mileage before tuning.
#7
that be great wouldnt it! i cranked it over already with the fuses pulled after i just put some oil in, no leaks no anything.. she sounds good cranking.. ill try and fire it up tomorrow with the battery charger on it like you mentioned to keep voltage up. i pray it fires on up!
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#9
It should be. There have been plenty of people (including me) that ran to those power levels on the stock fuel system. However that was at the absolute limit of the stock injectors.
#10
if thats on the stock injectors I should be godo then since ill be running 850's all round.
#11
thanks everyone for there help! has anyone gone to Bonzai for there dyno tuning? Im just trying to figure out if they would be my best bet to go too! I hear good things about them but you all are the experts on rotarys.
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