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Old 02-15-05 | 11:44 PM
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Poor man conversion

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Im looking for a dummy proof website or write-up of the poor-man's conversion. One with pictures if possible, so I can understand which part of which is what. I've used searched, I get alot of discussions about the conversion, but most of the "Write-ups" are incomplete or links do not work anymore. If someone has done this recently, he must of used something more recent. Thanks ahead.

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Old 02-16-05 | 12:34 AM
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The poor mans non sequential.

Step 1.
Remove the turbo control actuator (TCA) and plug the lines with some bolts and zip ties.( I leave the TCA bracket on the turbos to give me something to wire open the flapper doors Also I just cap the hard lines of that go to the TCA.)
Step 2.
Wire the TCA flapper door open (towards the front of the car)
Step3.
"T" the blow off and charge relief valve lvacum lines together, plug the remaining vacum line that runs from the charge relief valve to the lower intake manifold( I remove the CRV and cap the plug on the Y-pipe. Leaving only 1 BOV. since only one is needed)
Step4.
Remove the two vacum lines to the charge control valve and plug the remaining vacum lines.
(one from the y pipe to the charge control valve & one from the LIM to the charge control valve)
Step5.
Remove the black plastic pressure tank & plug the remaining vacum lines to the precontrol solinoid.
You should have a total of seven vacum lines plugged
Two off the LIM, one off the "Y" pipe, two off the hardpipe and two from the TCA (turbo control actuator)


-Dave

Sorry no pics. BVut you should be able to find everything if you know what is what. If not ..Go study Rob Robinette's website and familiarize yourself with the turbo components.

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Old 02-16-05 | 12:48 AM
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the poor mans conversion is exactly what it is....you get what you do...absolutely crap....do it the correct way or dont do it at all.
Old 02-16-05 | 12:50 AM
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And that's what? 95% of the conversion? Leaves the porting of the wastegate and removal of the rod and welding of the flapper right?
the poor mans conversion is exactly what it is....you get what you do...absolutely crap....do it the correct way or dont do it at all.
We'll then, I dont know how you call it, but im trying to do that reversable non-seq conversion, try it out, and see if i like it. So is that what the poorman conversion is called or is it another mid-rang between the 2?

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Old 02-16-05 | 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by gdnimr0d
the poor mans conversion is exactly what it is....you get what you do...absolutely crap....do it the correct way or dont do it at all.
You apparently did it incorrectly I'll take a guess and say you wired the TCA closed. That's not the poormans fault Because it is not crap. I have done a bunch of cars this way because they will be sold at a later time.
Have some good examples besides just spouting off. The only thing you are not doing is removing the flapper completely. Which does NOT flow that much more.
Old 02-16-05 | 01:38 PM
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So is that what they call the poor-man conversion? I've heard of a non-seq conversion that is about 95% of the job done, is it called the poorman or not? And thanks again for your help biggy
Old 02-16-05 | 01:40 PM
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why are you trying non-seq?
Old 02-16-05 | 01:42 PM
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Here is my proper how to for the poor mans non-sequential. Poormans versions works very well. Full version is slightly better perfomance wise. Same effect though..

Heres the link..

http://www.nopistons.com/forums/inde...howtopic=38640

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Old 02-16-05 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by XSTransAm
why are you trying non-seq?
I beleive the overall performances are better, I would like see the full potential of the system. Im wondering if im better off just buying another turbo.

Btw thanks for the link Fd3boost
but it does not work like most of the conversion write-ups out there.
Sorry, the link that brought you to this page seems to be out of date or broken.

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Old 02-16-05 | 04:36 PM
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N/m that, write up looks great thanks again
Old 02-16-05 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gdnimr0d
the poor mans conversion is exactly what it is....you get what you do...absolutely crap....do it the correct way or dont do it at all.


Originally Posted by bigislandsevens
You apparently did it incorrectly I'll take a guess and say you wired the TCA closed. That's not the poormans fault Because it is not crap. I have done a bunch of cars this way because they will be sold at a later time.
Have some good examples besides just spouting off. The only thing you are not doing is removing the flapper completely. Which does NOT flow that much more.


Jeremy
Old 03-06-05 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST
Here is my proper how to for the poor mans non-sequential. Poormans versions works very well. Full version is slightly better perfomance wise. Same effect though..

Heres the link..

http://www.nopistons.com/forums/inde...howtopic=38640

-Dave

This link doesnt seem to work anymore, does anyone have a link that will work. I just need to know how many vac lines i will have left, and what it looks like under the UIM.

landon
Old 03-06-05 | 11:15 AM
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n/m guys i found what i was looking for
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