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Pills ?
Hi Guys,
As i can't find the Archives I'll risk the wrath of the Thread Police and ask the question here.
Where are all the "pills" located on an FD?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Jim
As i can't find the Archives I'll risk the wrath of the Thread Police and ask the question here.
Where are all the "pills" located on an FD?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Jim
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there are only 2. Both go from turbo acuators to the turbo nipples. If you look at the acuators that are attached to primary turbo, you will see 2 hoses about 6mm thick. One is wastegate acuator and other is Pre-control acuator. The pills are in there. Wastegate hose is about 4 inches long and pre-control one is about 6-8 inches.
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Missing Pills
Gentlemen:
Thanks for your quick replies.
I have a 94MB Touring Auto 91000 miles stock - Engine was replaced at Mazda dealership (previous owner- have receipts) about 25000 miles ago under warranty.
No Pills - pulled the 4" and 6" hoses and nada. What happens without the restriction?? I can always put a plug in there with a hole drilled in it if its a big deal. restriction diameter??
Thanks again
Jim
Thanks for your quick replies.
I have a 94MB Touring Auto 91000 miles stock - Engine was replaced at Mazda dealership (previous owner- have receipts) about 25000 miles ago under warranty.
No Pills - pulled the 4" and 6" hoses and nada. What happens without the restriction?? I can always put a plug in there with a hole drilled in it if its a big deal. restriction diameter??
Thanks again
Jim
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Originally Posted by dgeesaman
94s and 95s don't have pills - the hose nipples have the restrictors built in.
Of course, it gets more confusing - I have a 94 with replaced turbos, since the turbos are from a 93 I have pills
Of course, it gets more confusing - I have a 94 with replaced turbos, since the turbos are from a 93 I have pills
so if you want to put a boost controller into a 94 or 95, how do you remove the pills?
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Originally Posted by dgeesaman
94s and 95s don't have pills - the hose nipples have the restrictors built in.
Of course, it gets more confusing - I have a 94 with replaced turbos, since the turbos are from a 93 I have pills
Of course, it gets more confusing - I have a 94 with replaced turbos, since the turbos are from a 93 I have pills
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Originally Posted by moehler
so if you want to put a boost controller into a 94 or 95, how do you remove the pills?
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If you have a car with the nipples, there are no pills. If you want to install a manual boost controller, you can drill out the holes in the nipples. I would not recommend drilling the prespool nipples.
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Many of the 94s have the pills in the lines. My car is one of them.
mine is a 95... is it a safe bet that I have no pills in the lines? I just bought some manual boost controllers and I'd like to know what I'm getting into before I take everything out to install these .
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If you have a car with the nipples, there are no pills. If you want to install a manual boost controller, you can drill out the holes in the nipples. I would not recommend drilling the prespool nipples.
why would you not recommend drilling the pre-spool nipple?
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Originally Posted by moehler
why would you not recommend drilling the pre-spool nipple?
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Originally Posted by novadan67
Some people have had difficulty getting the boost pattern right when using two controllers. It seems to be much easier when only using a manual controller on the WG control line and keeping the pill (or restricted nipple) in the pre-spool line, but if you want to adjust the pre-spool (transistion dip) you'll have to drill that nipple out too.
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I have a question, for those who have the pills in the nipples and don't want to deal with drilling them out, why not just cap off the nipples and tee into the hose at the Y-pipe? All you need is boost pressure going to the actuators that can be restricted with pills right?
Somebody correct me if I'm all confused?
Edit: If I'm not mistaken, wouldn't this method also show better boost response from both turbo's rather than just one?
Somebody correct me if I'm all confused?
Edit: If I'm not mistaken, wouldn't this method also show better boost response from both turbo's rather than just one?
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You might want to just make the pre-spool pill and put a manual boost controller in the WG control line. That way if you notice any boost spikes with future mods you can just turn down the boost. Here is a link for the how-to (it is cheap and easy):
http://robrobinette.com/boost_controller.htm
http://robrobinette.com/boost_controller.htm
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I suggest that you drill the wastegate line (if it has a nipple), and install the Manual Boost Controller (MBC) only on that line. Drive the car, and see how you like it. A MBC is generally used to keep the car from over-boosting by allowing more air thru the wastegate line. You will have to drill the nipple to allow more air.
Mahjik,
The prespool line has a pill that tries to set the prespool to 8psi at transition. You have said that it is .058". Do you know what effect the larger pill would have if placed in the prespool line?
Thanks, Adam
Mahjik,
The prespool line has a pill that tries to set the prespool to 8psi at transition. You have said that it is .058". Do you know what effect the larger pill would have if placed in the prespool line?
Thanks, Adam
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Thanks Adam. My problem isn't that I'm over boosting... I want to use the controllers to help me from under boosting . My car car is tuned to 14 psi, but once it gets hot, it only hits 12 -13 depending on how hot it is outside. I figure with the controllers I can open up the "restrictive" pills slightly and get more accurate higher boost. In theory, this should work, correct?
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Hi guys,
Here's my parting question-- if there are no pills or restrictors(there aren't on either set of 94 turbos) then how is the boost limited??
Thanks again for taking the time to reply.
Jim
Here's my parting question-- if there are no pills or restrictors(there aren't on either set of 94 turbos) then how is the boost limited??
Thanks again for taking the time to reply.
Jim
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Originally Posted by adam c
Mahjik,
The prespool line has a pill that tries to set the prespool to 8psi at transition. You have said that it is .058". Do you know what effect the larger pill would have if placed in the prespool line?
Thanks, Adam
The prespool line has a pill that tries to set the prespool to 8psi at transition. You have said that it is .058". Do you know what effect the larger pill would have if placed in the prespool line?
Thanks, Adam