pics of new RA unbreakable seals
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pics of new RA unbreakable seals
i just got my rotary aviation so called "unbreakable seals".
they advertize it as unbreakable because it is 700% more flexable and 85% stronger than the mazda 2mm's.
the price wasnt that bad. i got 6, 2 peice, 2mm apex seals, and 12 springs for $181.10 shipped using express mail(1-2 day).
here are the pics:
there are more pics on my website:
http://www.goldenautomart.com/RA%20seals.htm
(not 56k friendly)
tell me what you think!!!
they advertize it as unbreakable because it is 700% more flexable and 85% stronger than the mazda 2mm's.
the price wasnt that bad. i got 6, 2 peice, 2mm apex seals, and 12 springs for $181.10 shipped using express mail(1-2 day).
here are the pics:
there are more pics on my website:
http://www.goldenautomart.com/RA%20seals.htm
(not 56k friendly)
tell me what you think!!!
#3
Man that sounds sweet, I have my motor apart... so probably a good possibility for the rebuild. I wish someone had some feedback or experience.
As a general rule harder seals make more of a mess but these do sound interesting. Stock seals can still cause a good amount of damage as well.
As a general rule harder seals make more of a mess but these do sound interesting. Stock seals can still cause a good amount of damage as well.
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yea i know but the thing i am most intrested in is if i can go single in these seals. there are people over 400 to the wheels on stock 2mm mazda seals so wont these be any good?
also, someone has experience with these. i think that he tried to blow them by detonating but they wouldnt break. i think that he tried 3 times but they didnt break
also, someone has experience with these. i think that he tried to blow them by detonating but they wouldnt break. i think that he tried 3 times but they didnt break
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$181 for a full set of seals and springs??? What do you mean the price isnt bad....thats cheap as hell!!! The OEM seals are about $350+ JUST for the seals. If you'd bought that stuff from mazda it would be around $450
Have anyone else ran these? Whats the deal with "unbreakable". Nothing is unbreakable.
rzograbian- You need to make sure they dont have special clearancing needs. Some seals need to be clearanced to a different tolerance than spec cause when they get hot they expand more than the oem.
STEPHEN
Have anyone else ran these? Whats the deal with "unbreakable". Nothing is unbreakable.
rzograbian- You need to make sure they dont have special clearancing needs. Some seals need to be clearanced to a different tolerance than spec cause when they get hot they expand more than the oem.
STEPHEN
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i have researched it already. the only person that blew their motor with these seals was someone on this fourm but i dont remember his name. when he took the motor apart, he realized that it was a water seal that was pinched and nothing was wrong with the apex seals.
as i said, people have tried to blow these seals but it hasnt worked yet so we dont know what kind of damage these will do. thats kind of good and bad
as i said, people have tried to blow these seals but it hasnt worked yet so we dont know what kind of damage these will do. thats kind of good and bad
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it was from rotary aviation but it seems that it was under another business name. it was called "real world" something....
just go here: http://www.rotaryaviation.com/how_to_order.htm
give them a call with the number at the bottom of the page. talk to laura crook. tell her you heard about them from Roman but i think that they are sold out already...
just call that number and wait for the seals, their worth it.
just go here: http://www.rotaryaviation.com/how_to_order.htm
give them a call with the number at the bottom of the page. talk to laura crook. tell her you heard about them from Roman but i think that they are sold out already...
just call that number and wait for the seals, their worth it.
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I'm STILL running these apex seals. I normally run the atkins 2mm 2piece design, but I had a hard time keeping motors together because they kept blowing up the atkins seals. The RA seals are STRONG. Scathcart on this forum and the NP forum actually did a test to see how strong they really are attaching a switch to the rear secondary injector to turn it off for the testing. He broke all 6 corner seals, and 5 of the 6 side deals, but only cracked ONE apex seal. CRACKED. Did not come apart.
I am VERY impressed with these seals. I thought I would be the first to break them(since I have a habit of blowing **** up) but looks like he beat me to it.
I am VERY impressed with these seals. I thought I would be the first to break them(since I have a habit of blowing **** up) but looks like he beat me to it.
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Jspecracer7....You make me laugh!! You remind me of one of my instructors at school( Dyno class) who always used to say.." If you want to make an omlette, you've got to break a few eggs." I like to see pioneers/people willing to blow up **** for the sake of everyone else that owns a rotary engine.!! Bravo, you deserve a pat on the back, as well as Scathcart. I am going to give a call in the morning for these seals.
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I like to blow **** up...what can I say? Of course, 6 engine's in one year did beat up my wallet quite a bit....glad I do all the work myself...if not I'd be REALLY poor then.
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Just ordered a set. Thought I'd get them while they're still cheap, apparently they're gonna put the price up soon. Just wondering where the real benefit is tho, if you get detonation the "breakable" side and corner seals are still gonna fail even if the "unbreakable" apex seals don't. The end result is still the same i.e. rebuild time!
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From: Where there's only two seasons, hot and wet! I love Okinawa
Originally posted by MillSpeed
Just ordered a set. Thought I'd get them while they're still cheap, apparently they're gonna put the price up soon. Just wondering where the real benefit is tho, if you get detonation the "breakable" side and corner seals are still gonna fail even if the "unbreakable" apex seals don't. The end result is still the same i.e. rebuild time!
Just ordered a set. Thought I'd get them while they're still cheap, apparently they're gonna put the price up soon. Just wondering where the real benefit is tho, if you get detonation the "breakable" side and corner seals are still gonna fail even if the "unbreakable" apex seals don't. The end result is still the same i.e. rebuild time!