Pettit Racing Cold Air Intake Review and Install - DT
#26
Maybe. Although not as sensitive as this guy right here:
And this one:
Here let me remind you of your post:
So where is the part that you eloquently called out the poor advice?
I'm all for calling out people who post bad information and/or mistruths. Maybe you should have elaborated more on your first post so the rest of us would know where your coming from and not think that you're lashing out for who knows what reason.
The last thing this forum needs is more dicks.
Also. We are in 2019, calling someone a school girl is pretty gender insensitive. But I'll stop there before we get into politics haha.
Also, moderators are here to moderate. Not to be dicks. Maybe consider not being a mod if you feel strongly about being a dick.
Also. We are in 2019, calling someone a school girl is pretty gender insensitive. But I'll stop there before we get into politics haha.
Also, moderators are here to moderate. Not to be dicks. Maybe consider not being a mod if you feel strongly about being a dick.
I'm all for calling out people who post bad information and/or mistruths. Maybe you should have elaborated more on your first post so the rest of us would know where your coming from and not think that you're lashing out for who knows what reason.
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#27
Originally Posted by Montego
Maybe. Although not as sensitive as this guy right here:And this one:Here let me remind you of your post:So where is the part that you eloquently called out the poor advice?
I'm all for calling out people who post bad information and/or mistruths. Maybe you should have elaborated more on your first post so the rest of us would know where your coming from and not think that you're lashing out for who knows what reason.
I'm all for calling out people who post bad information and/or mistruths. Maybe you should have elaborated more on your first post so the rest of us would know where your coming from and not think that you're lashing out for who knows what reason.
#28
I agree with everything you said. Except #4 which IMO keeping the fans on while the car is off does not do a thing to cool the engine. Yeah it cools the coolant in the radiator but since the water pump is off, that cool coolant never makes back into the engine block lol. Basically all you end up doing is extracting heat from the radiator into the engine bay.
I just cruise the last few minutes of my destination.
I just cruise the last few minutes of my destination.
^Dated 6/24/2008
#29
Junior Member
Thread Starter
A video on how to install a boost controller with basic bolt-ons would be super helpful. Maybe a video idea? Probably lots of people out there wanting to run basic bolt-ons like intake/downpipe/exhaust and do it safely. I like the idea of a manual boost controller for the relative simplicity and ease of reversal, and there is lots of info about it on the forum but no real comprehensive guide or walkthrough.
#30
A video on how to install a boost controller with basic bolt-ons would be super helpful. Maybe a video idea? Probably lots of people out there wanting to run basic bolt-ons like intake/downpipe/exhaust and do it safely. I like the idea of a manual boost controller for the relative simplicity and ease of reversal, and there is lots of info about it on the forum but no real comprehensive guide or walkthrough.
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#31
Since you mentioned exhaust mods together with intake mods, make sure not to confuse Boost SPIKE with Boost CREEP. Spike is from opening the intake side. Creep is from opening the exhaust side with too little back pressure (on stock twins). While both can cause a lean condition, only spike can be controlled with a BC. Keeping adequate back pressure or wastegate porting is the only cure for creep.
#32
Walking bowl of punch
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On a scale of 1 to douchiness, I would rate the attack on the OP as a 5 - 6: I will probably see worse cr@p today, but it wasn't the nicest.
1 being a helpful reply with technical details on what was wrong with the original post, written in a neutral way. And replying on the post in question.
10 being a mean-spirited rant where a person says “Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!” and attacks the person for something not relevant in the current post.
So I'd give it a 5 or 6.
1 being a helpful reply with technical details on what was wrong with the original post, written in a neutral way. And replying on the post in question.
10 being a mean-spirited rant where a person says “Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!” and attacks the person for something not relevant in the current post.
So I'd give it a 5 or 6.
#33
As a related but general aside to this conversation, I do believe we have a few new click bait members ("click, subscribe, smash that like button!" or "click here to learn how you too can build the most highly modified 13b on the planet!" disregarding the, I don't, 25 years of history on how we olds have been doing it for decades sharing it with eachother on the old list and RX-7Club...) who I question the intent to share for the greater community's benefit or for themselves as sponsor paid, and paid per view opportunists. As a community member, I care about that distinction but may be in the minority
Although I do not condone and am not defending it, this may have been relatively at the heart of Collin's initial response?
Although I am not opposed to seeing similar posts shared as this one, I believe they should be noted as sponsored accounts as being led off RX-7Club as a revenue generator
I click on the OP's video or link out to youtube channel, is the OP getting paid for that and is that an important distinction needed between our user base?
I am putting that against someone like Chris at Banzai (a true rotary enthusiast and community asset) who cancelled their paid vendor account, while someone can post some flashy title that takes us off RX-7Club, and gets paid for that?
And to clarify, this is not a dig on the OP - I have personally handled financial partnerships with "content creators", working with them on their royalties. I get that there is a business (and supporting demand) for that, and if you aren't making any money on this, so be it but if any of this speaks to you in your motives to post here...
Although I do not condone and am not defending it, this may have been relatively at the heart of Collin's initial response?
Although I am not opposed to seeing similar posts shared as this one, I believe they should be noted as sponsored accounts as being led off RX-7Club as a revenue generator
I click on the OP's video or link out to youtube channel, is the OP getting paid for that and is that an important distinction needed between our user base?
I am putting that against someone like Chris at Banzai (a true rotary enthusiast and community asset) who cancelled their paid vendor account, while someone can post some flashy title that takes us off RX-7Club, and gets paid for that?
And to clarify, this is not a dig on the OP - I have personally handled financial partnerships with "content creators", working with them on their royalties. I get that there is a business (and supporting demand) for that, and if you aren't making any money on this, so be it but if any of this speaks to you in your motives to post here...
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#35
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary
(Prologue: Drunk me meant to post this in this thread.)
Onpopular upinion: K&N filters with a heat shield aren't a cold air intake. A CAI has to actually provide AMBIENT TEMPERATURE AIR to the engine.
The problem is that achieving this requires certain sacrifices with the FD...
E.g., "**** it, I'm going to spend $2,000 on an RE-A fixed headlight kit so my turbo can suck cold air! Who cares if the right headlight barely works!"
Onpopular upinion: K&N filters with a heat shield aren't a cold air intake. A CAI has to actually provide AMBIENT TEMPERATURE AIR to the engine.
The problem is that achieving this requires certain sacrifices with the FD...
E.g., "**** it, I'm going to spend $2,000 on an RE-A fixed headlight kit so my turbo can suck cold air! Who cares if the right headlight barely works!"
#36
Sgtblue - you have been here as long as I have, and have seen the forum change over the decades as well.
I haven't ruled out that the vast majority couldn't care less that someone's opinion on RX-7Club comes with a paycheck or their push for one product over another for our RX-7's is monetarily biased and not pure in nature
Let me directly clarify
@Driver's Therapy
Are you paid by viewership, subscriptions, sponsors, or any indirect or direct way tied to your YouTube channel?
If you posted a video on RX-7Club that would link RX-7Club members out to YouTube or your YouTube channel, are you paid for that or benefit in kind?
@Billj747
You directly reference manufacturers and products in your build thread - are you sponsored by any of your brands in your build thread, and do you benefit in pushing one product over another?
Do you benefit monetarily or in kind in moving traffic off RX-7Club to MotoIQ?
Exhibit A - read this post below (manufacturers and products edited) in both the context of someone pushing these products and monetarily benefitting, and let me know if a distinction would be needed in someone getting paid on RX-7Club to push these products or not?
This isn't a direct attack either of these members, just a point of clarification I see as important. I met one of them once on Lime Rock Park pit lane and had a decent conversation about RX-7 builds
If however, in that conversation at LRP they said "I only use OIl BRAND X for my 13b and you should too", and if I then looked down to their racesuit and saw a BRAND X OIL patch, I would take that opinion with a large grain of salt
It's that caveat that I think should come with certain members who are monetarily benefiting (or benefitting in kind) from what they write on RX-7Club
Again to clarify, I am not opposed to RX-7Club members benefitting monetarily - just pay to play like our vendors do or tell us all that your opinions may be monetarily biased
Don't **** on my leg and tell me it's raining
I haven't ruled out that the vast majority couldn't care less that someone's opinion on RX-7Club comes with a paycheck or their push for one product over another for our RX-7's is monetarily biased and not pure in nature
Let me directly clarify
@Driver's Therapy
Are you paid by viewership, subscriptions, sponsors, or any indirect or direct way tied to your YouTube channel?
If you posted a video on RX-7Club that would link RX-7Club members out to YouTube or your YouTube channel, are you paid for that or benefit in kind?
@Billj747
You directly reference manufacturers and products in your build thread - are you sponsored by any of your brands in your build thread, and do you benefit in pushing one product over another?
Do you benefit monetarily or in kind in moving traffic off RX-7Club to MotoIQ?
Exhibit A - read this post below (manufacturers and products edited) in both the context of someone pushing these products and monetarily benefitting, and let me know if a distinction would be needed in someone getting paid on RX-7Club to push these products or not?
This isn't a direct attack either of these members, just a point of clarification I see as important. I met one of them once on Lime Rock Park pit lane and had a decent conversation about RX-7 builds
If however, in that conversation at LRP they said "I only use OIl BRAND X for my 13b and you should too", and if I then looked down to their racesuit and saw a BRAND X OIL patch, I would take that opinion with a large grain of salt
It's that caveat that I think should come with certain members who are monetarily benefiting (or benefitting in kind) from what they write on RX-7Club
Again to clarify, I am not opposed to RX-7Club members benefitting monetarily - just pay to play like our vendors do or tell us all that your opinions may be monetarily biased
Don't **** on my leg and tell me it's raining
#40
Senior Member
@Billj747
You directly reference manufacturers and products in your build thread - are you sponsored by any of your brands in your build thread, and do you benefit in pushing one product over another?
Do you benefit monetarily or in kind in moving traffic off RX-7Club to MotoIQ?
Exhibit A - read this post below (manufacturers and products edited) in both the context of someone pushing these products and monetarily benefitting, and let me know if a distinction would be needed in someone getting paid on RX-7Club to push these products or not?
This isn't a direct attack either of these members, just a point of clarification I see as important. I met one of them once on Lime Rock Park pit lane and had a decent conversation about RX-7 builds
If however, in that conversation at LRP they said "I only use OIl BRAND X for my 13b and you should too", and if I then looked down to their racesuit and saw a BRAND X OIL patch, I would take that opinion with a large grain of salt
It's that caveat that I think should come with certain members who are monetarily benefiting (or benefitting in kind) from what they write on RX-7Club
Again to clarify, I am not opposed to RX-7Club members benefitting monetarily - just pay to play like our vendors do or tell us all that your opinions may be monetarily biased
Don't **** on my leg and tell me it's raining
You directly reference manufacturers and products in your build thread - are you sponsored by any of your brands in your build thread, and do you benefit in pushing one product over another?
Do you benefit monetarily or in kind in moving traffic off RX-7Club to MotoIQ?
Exhibit A - read this post below (manufacturers and products edited) in both the context of someone pushing these products and monetarily benefitting, and let me know if a distinction would be needed in someone getting paid on RX-7Club to push these products or not?
This isn't a direct attack either of these members, just a point of clarification I see as important. I met one of them once on Lime Rock Park pit lane and had a decent conversation about RX-7 builds
If however, in that conversation at LRP they said "I only use OIl BRAND X for my 13b and you should too", and if I then looked down to their racesuit and saw a BRAND X OIL patch, I would take that opinion with a large grain of salt
It's that caveat that I think should come with certain members who are monetarily benefiting (or benefitting in kind) from what they write on RX-7Club
Again to clarify, I am not opposed to RX-7Club members benefitting monetarily - just pay to play like our vendors do or tell us all that your opinions may be monetarily biased
Don't **** on my leg and tell me it's raining
From my experience and in my opinion, while the builds of some people's project cars that are shared on forums can be quite engaging and have a lot of views, the additional comments dilute and spread the posts of the build out and makes sifting through pages and pages on a thread more difficult to follow the build or to remember what page something of interest was on. Not all enthusiasts are on forums and it seems like the heyday of forums have past with dwindling engagement across many car communities. Using a platform like MotoIQ.com to host my builds has more industry-wide exposure, the information is more consolidated and easier to look up, read, and follow without sifting through tons of forum replies, and has a better search engine optimization that pops up when people research a given car or upgrade, requiring less forum detective work that is probably the norm for forum veterans like you and me. I've also had more people come up to me and talk about my MotoIQ articles than people who come up and talk to me about forum discussions.
I have owned and written for many project cars/builds (BMWs, Mustangs, Viper, NSX, and RX-7) and this question or 'issue' has come up before. I've even gone to lengths of posting every word and photo from each MotoIQ.com article into the thread itself, which did not really change the engagement or 'credibility' of the build, but required a lot more work. At the end of the day, I have come to the conclusion that the format of posting my builds on MotoIQ.com, and then having a forum thread with those updates as a place for discussion within the community to engage with me and discuss the build has been the most successful at sharing the information of my builds and being easy to look up different parts of the build.
Credibility is a tough one and it's understandable for positive reviews to be questioned as legitimate from experience or "bought" from monetary benefits/sponsorships/etc... The automotive industry is extremely small and building relationships is always important no matter what industry you're in. In full disclosure, I am not sponsored and paid by any company as a 'brand-ambassador' to push their products or to test the parts that I use or review. I am hired by many companies to help test and develop products from components to entire systems and vehicles (which is separate from my articles), and I have good relationships with many competing brands whether its suspension, tires, brakes, lubricants, drivetrain, etc... I have also known Mike Kojima at MotoIQ for a very long time and I am not paid to write for him; but his platform has been a great place for these builds and articles so it's a win-win relationship.
The intent behind my builds is to benefit the community by sharing my experience and background as a professional racecar driver and development driver who has had the opportunity to work with some of the smartest engineers in the world from aerodynamicists, to chassis engineers, powertrain engineers, programmers, etc... as well as working on the development of cars like the Ford GT (race & street cars), Shelby GT500 and GT350, Guntherwerks Porsches, and various other platforms and to discuss what i'm using in my builds, why i'm using it, and what the results were if something new was tested. Most of the articles have positive product results because through this knowledge, experience, and industry relationships, their is a high level of confidence in its success. However, some products have issues and we give feedback to companies to help make their products better. Some companies take this feedback and implement changes to benefit the community with better products, some companies do not and the results are brought forth to the community for them to make educated decisions. I've also used products from companies that I don't think the highest of, but still bought their product because it was the best option or solution. I provide links to products or companies simply to direct readers to the source of what is being discussed. I don't have or use affiliate links to benefit from people buying stuff from reading my articles.
For Project NSX, I have engineered and developed a dry sump oiling system and a few products like an aftermarket crank position sensor, both of which were done out of necessity since there were no great solutions on the market. I am at the point where I will be promoting and selling these products to the NSX community and at that point, I have a personal financial interest and will become a vendor over there. I have made a few things for the RX-7 that I have not written about, but if I get to the point of having developed a few products that I feel would benefit the community, I will also become a vendor here. But at this time, I do not sell a product or service and my builds are currently there to share what I have used in my builds, where to get them/how to use them, and what the results are.
It appears the statement of "We decided to tear down a 2,000-mile brand-new Mazda crate engine to turn it into one of the most highly-modified 13B REW engines on the planet." has struck a few nerves unintentionally. While I don't personally have decades of experience building rotary engines, I have raced them early in my career, had race engines built by Jim Downing, am having Abel Ibarra build this 13B REW, have known many rotary guys for decades, and am bringing a lot of professional motorsports contacts and insight into my build. While billet 13Bs are the most advanced and highest power-producing 2-rotor engines, I think the above statement is valid and fair from the standpoint of most 13B REWs (stock irons, housings, rotors, and e-shaft) are not cryogenically treated, WPC treated, CNC lightened, bridgeported, semi peripheral ported, studded and doweled. Since all of these modifications are rarely done together on a rotary engine, I think that qualifies the statement of being "one of the most highly-modified 13B REW engines on the planet" -which is NOT claiming to be "THE" most modified. Whether all of this is beneficial or worth it will be determined once the engine is running and we put it through the test and the reader can decide for themselves on the results.
I'm sure that's a longer-winded answer than you were looking for.
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c0rbin9 (11-20-23)
#41
10000 RPM Lane
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^^it’d be an understatement to state that everyone has an opinion , to wit how is it then any less rude to publicly call out another person’s words as being rude.
Too bad we can’t rewind the clock to see how this thread might have gone had it been ignored completely by everyone instead.
as i’ve said, and even lived out many times as well (yes, guilty as charged), it’s always easier to see the “insert subjective description here” in someone else than in yourself.
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Too bad we can’t rewind the clock to see how this thread might have gone had it been ignored completely by everyone instead.
as i’ve said, and even lived out many times as well (yes, guilty as charged), it’s always easier to see the “insert subjective description here” in someone else than in yourself.
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#43
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Wow! This has gotten crazy. To try and answer a few questions, I try make videos that help owners, an example is my video on how to remove the upper intake manifold on a FD, it took me 4 days to edit and splice 20 plus videos. There was not a video on that on YouTube, so I made one. I am retired military, so I like the technical stuff, and this is a passion and a hobby. As far as being paid, those videos might make $5 if 1,000 watch but there are not enough people who have RX-7s who need to remove their UIM to make that. So, making money is really not the goal. The end goal is making a lot of those videos to help and to make a name for myself.
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#44
Full Member
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@Driver's Therapy Keep making videos as long as you enjoy them. People on this forum will judge you and always have some opinion because they view "making videos" as you looking for attention instead of an additional hobby. I made a post about making videos for rx7s and got a few people throwing hate and projecting their problems of making content onto me. I instead ignored what they said and kept making content of my car because I genuinely enjoying editing videos and working on my rx7, I've grown my channel pretty steadily and have met a lot of people who have given me great advice on my build.
Best advice I can give you is continue making content, keep enjoying modifying your car and making videos. Some of the most useful rx7 videos that I've watched have had less than a 1000 views. Your videos might help someone in the future and it will be nice to have video progression of your car.
Best advice I can give you is continue making content, keep enjoying modifying your car and making videos. Some of the most useful rx7 videos that I've watched have had less than a 1000 views. Your videos might help someone in the future and it will be nice to have video progression of your car.
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#45
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Dude! I read your whole comment and I really appreciate it BUT wait! A Bleach fan!?!? Dude, I love Bleach. It's my favorite anime of all time. The new series is driving me crazy with the Soul King.
But on a real note, thanks man, I make content because it fun and I am kind of addicted to doing it. It keeps me busy and not bored at home.
But on a real note, thanks man, I make content because it fun and I am kind of addicted to doing it. It keeps me busy and not bored at home.
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spintowinrx7 (11-19-23)
#47
I agree there's nothing wrong with making videos or writing forum posts or writing articles for 'webzine' sites like MotoIQ, as long as the same posters are also contributing to this forum and not just using it to post self-promotion links. If people are wrong on tech details that can get pointed out in comments sections or on rx7club threads, we saw that happen a couple years ago with the Angel Motorsports video where they claimed a new Mazda engine had some crazy fault, which they happened to find after cutting the camera off for an unknown time and then back on again, and the people making the video recommended that people should pay them money to rebuild engines rather than buying new from Mazda.
But I also agree with @ZumSpeedRX-7 , if anyone is getting product for free or partial sponsorship then I have a hard time trusting their recommendations unless they are very straightforward about that arrangement from the get-go.
But I also agree with @ZumSpeedRX-7 , if anyone is getting product for free or partial sponsorship then I have a hard time trusting their recommendations unless they are very straightforward about that arrangement from the get-go.
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Billj747 (11-19-23)
#48
Thanks @Billj747 for your thorough response - I appreciate the effort and value your input in the community
@Driver's Therapy you trying to fleece the community in saying it is "just" $5 per 1,000 views does not negate the fact that that it is still revenue at $0.005 per click (at 67.2K subscribers X $0.005 per view = that's $336 per video)
To say your four days of editing is worth that viewership revenue diminishes the value community members have been freely giving for decades
No ambiguity
I would recommend you pay to be an RX-7Club vendor or stick to YouTube - if you're any good, the RX-7 community will find you, and you will make a "name for yourself" (read: a revenue making business $0.005 at a time)
I genuinely do wish you success in your ventures to build a veteran-owned business - the goal is to get paid to do what we love (but the key operative in that sentence is PAID)
Just be fully transparent in your motives in coming to RX-7Club to maximize your return ($0.005 per view) on your investment (four days of editing)
@Driver's Therapy you trying to fleece the community in saying it is "just" $5 per 1,000 views does not negate the fact that that it is still revenue at $0.005 per click (at 67.2K subscribers X $0.005 per view = that's $336 per video)
To say your four days of editing is worth that viewership revenue diminishes the value community members have been freely giving for decades
No ambiguity
I would recommend you pay to be an RX-7Club vendor or stick to YouTube - if you're any good, the RX-7 community will find you, and you will make a "name for yourself" (read: a revenue making business $0.005 at a time)
I genuinely do wish you success in your ventures to build a veteran-owned business - the goal is to get paid to do what we love (but the key operative in that sentence is PAID)
Just be fully transparent in your motives in coming to RX-7Club to maximize your return ($0.005 per view) on your investment (four days of editing)
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rx7_nyc (11-21-23)
#49
There is nothing wrong with posting YouTube videos here, particularly when those videos are instructional tutorials on things related to the RX-7. This is no different than someone posting a walkthrough on how to remove an alternator. So he has monetization enabled on YouTube - that is the way of the world these days.
If I made a video on how to fix something on my car, I might post it here. And there is nothing wrong with that.
I find it messed up that someone posting some of the only original content coming out of the FD community gets attacked as a self-promoter like this. This community is small and could use more original content like this, not less.
If I made a video on how to fix something on my car, I might post it here. And there is nothing wrong with that.
I find it messed up that someone posting some of the only original content coming out of the FD community gets attacked as a self-promoter like this. This community is small and could use more original content like this, not less.
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