I was referring to adam c's post saying 16yr olds can not be mature. I wasnt talking about your post.

 

why does it matter if the value goes up, the car is rare already, i really don't care about the value. Wrecked FD's=people getting injured=bad...who cares about the value.

I wasn't going to respond to this thread, but i guess now i man as well........being 16 and viewing 16yr old drivers is COMPLETELY different than having lived through those years and looking at them in hindsight.

Of course i thought I was a great driver and definately thought i was a better driver than my parents. But certain driving abilities, like comfort on the road and instinctive reactions, even ability to drive well while encountering distractions take time and experience to learn adequately.
Yes you think you can handle them, yes i remember trying to imitate my parents while driving and looking out the window pretending i didn't have to look at the road to drive....sure u can do these things, but they aren't automatic until u have a certain amount of driving time on the road and let your testosterone/road rage settle down. Experience is invaluable and takes time. I don't know how much time, sure it depends on the person, but its CERTAINLY NOT 16 or 17

long post but oh well, and i haven't preread this so there might be errors

 

AMEN! but that goes for everyone out there!

 

I'm here to tell you that kit was HATED waaay before that stupid movie ever came out.

BTW- Contradictory to popular belief there were actually FD's around before F&F. Stupid ******* movie made my once unknown car popular...

 

I said "16 year old KIDS are not mature. Some are more mature than others"

If you are more mature than other 16 year old KIDS, that's great. You are still 16. You are still not mature. You have not even finished high school yet. You are still growing. If you think you are mature, it is in comparison to your peers. It is not in comparison to a mature "adult". If you think you are mature at that age, you are proving how little you know.

 

I care, that's why I posted it.

 

Im not 16 im just defending the fact that some 16 yr olds can be mature enough to know the limits of their drinving ability and the capability of the car which hopefully can help them avoid a wreck.

 

The first time I rode in an FD it was my cousins car 4 years ago. She was a senior in High school and had saved enough money to buy the car. Since then her boyfriend has bought a 93 R1 CYM and I bought my Black 93 R1. She was responsible enough to pay her own insurance and respected the power and abilities of the car. I'm 23 and have owned my car for over 2 years and It has been a learning process. I don't feel that people are responsible enough at 16 for a car like an FD but there are exceptions. It has to do more with the person than the vehicle. That's why there are kids dying in 18-20 second Honda's. Not because of the car's power but because of their lack of commmon sense.

 

You are right. Some 16 year olds are mature enough to know that they shouldn't be driving an FD. The ones driving an FD do not fit into that category.

 

My problems with teenagers owning a FD

1. They constantly remind people their age. i.e. put their age in their sig and continually tell people how great of a drive they are. Interesting, most older owners with much more experience and track veterans will never make such a bold comment. I have many friends who are very young with RX-7's and I am very proud at their intelligence and modesty.

2. wannabe internet engineers who have yet to buy a FD. Have a to-do list about a mile long all based on things they read online. Think they know anything and everything because they read it online and think they know more than anyone. i.e. "I'm going to make a 4 rotor twin-turbo car and make the car 2,300 pounds and I don't care what you say, I'm going to do it!"

3. prospective young owners who purchase FD's think they are joining an exclusive club or something. They need to realize it's just a car

4. cocky sob's! I paid with my car with my own money! no one helped me! blah blah blah, What do you want a cookie? Welcome to the real world. I believe that most people do not really care who paid for your car. I believe most people hate cockiness

 

LOL, what a cynic you are TTT, but true dat!

 

Well said!

 

I proved my responasibilty throughout my life. My parents bought me a Mustang on my 16th birthday. today im the owner of a FD.

I consider myself knowledgable and mature enough to handle this car, and I respect it. I never abuse it, or try to prove to others that its fast. Im not retarded. I dont do 140 on the highway and brag about it. I dont pick a race with everyone. I dont tailgate people. I always wear my seatbelt.

 

I've had my FD a little over two years now and I probably know more then 1/2+ of people who own FDs. I'm not saying thatis making me beter then them, i just dont see myself in the same catagory as some of 16-18s. Anytime i see some a 16 year old say they just got an FD i dought them like the rest of you because 99.9% of 16-18 year olds shouldnt be driving one. All the mods i do to my car, i do myself and my car is problem more modified then half the FDs on the road. I've probably sent about $10k+ in engine mods and about $60 on body mods so i didnt buy the car to rice it out. I've replaced the engine myself and currently rebuilding one. I have gotten to a point in my car where i do feel comfortable driving it at stock level hp and the HP that it is now. I do know that i have a bit to go before i know everything there is to know about driving but as far as everything i've done in the past 2 years I havnt wrecked the car. For all these reasons i hope i can get a little respect from some of the older guys on the forum here.

And to TTT about the whole pride about buying our FDs by ourself:

The only reason I've ever said that and anyone else is because guys on the forum give us **** for not earning or deserving out FDs and said our mommies and daddies bought us for them. I'm sure that is the case for some but not others.

But i do agree with alot of you guys about most of this stuff posted,but there always are exceptions to the rule.

~Luke

 

hey wait a minute I have a mile long list too.

 

SOme people get on forums like this with the huge list of what they'll do to an FD, and one of them is my friend. He drools over my car, and says "when I get an FD, I'll put in a 3 rotor." I tell him the exhorbitant cost, and his lack of a job, and he says he will do it himself. This guy is almost 22. So for all of you teens that saved up and actually got your car, good. You're ahead of my lazy friend that lives in a dream world.

 

Wow, ALL of the young drivers admit that they are the exception to the rule, and that are one of the very few that deserve to own an FD.

When I bought my car 2 years ago, I didn't feel that I deserved such a nice car. That was after over 25 years of racing experience.

Here's an open invitation to ANY young driver to admit that they should not drive an FD.

 

I'm 22 and I don't think I should have such a powerfull car. I think all cars in america should be geo metros. That way nobody would have a powerfull car.

 

hmmmmm im tempted to say "no i should not drive an FD" but after having a Turbo II for over 2 years with no accidents or anything like that its hard to say. As for the realization that maintainance will be unreasoanble for any 16-20 year old, I can agree with this. In 2 years I probably spent more than the car was worth on maint. of the FC. Perhaps I should be asking myself if I would buy another Turbo II? In a heartbeat I would! I'll be looking for an FD come spring to hopefully have it when summer comes around and I'll be out of college....

its a very tough question; I see both sides

 

not a chance in hell...i drove a supercharged mr2 when i was seventeen and it got the hell beat out of it...not only did all my pals take turns on it but that is all we did. those cars were able to handle constant abuse. the fd is not...and the fd is much too powerful for one who is not skilled at driving.

j

 

The crux of the matter is the mere fact that some1 can admit their shortcomings is a sign of maturity. So those who think that they are overly capable or overly deserving are immature by definition.

I think life as we get older we realize that we really don't know as much as we think we do.

 

That's for sure. That's the reason why teenagers are much "smarter" and know everything.

 

my parents bought me an fd when i was 16. Some of the reasons why i begged and worked for the car was to teach me how to be responsable by being a cautious driver, knowing the type of power the car produces, maintaining the car, and to learn how to handle the type of power it produces. and yes my parents have absolutly no clue what the fd can do and if i was a parent myself there would be no chance in hell i would hand my 16 year old keys to an fd.

 

never.

kids who want an FD know how fast it is. at 16, they've just began to drive and more than likely will race whenever they get a chance.

sure some of the kids on here will say no dont stereotype.. but face it, at 16, you're still immature and will take up a race with someone else - afterall, you drive a beautiful fast car and wouldnt want your ego deflated by some kind of other fast car would you?

well that's how i see it for those new kids.. we were all 16 once and know what goes through our minds

well, hopefully i'm not a minority on that point here

 

It is good that you dont brag about it, dont want the parents finding out what you do on the highway.