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Old 09-28-12, 08:59 AM
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FL Needs Starter Fluid to Start?

After rebuild, car needs starter fluid to start -- then runs fine.

Battery is fine, spark is fine.

Was not a problem in the past.

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new plugs?
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If it is flooded, would the starting fluid allow it to start?

Doesn't seem like it would, but???
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Adding more fuel to a flooded car doesn't normally help.

+1 for new plugs.

That's usually the first thing I do for hard starting and/or rough running, and that is usually the problem.
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Has New plugs.
Car runs smooth after starting with Starter Fluid -- but once you turn
her off -- no go until you add the Starter Fluid again.

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Ok, here's my thoughts, on a new engine, the apex seals, side seals, and what not are not seated in properly yet, therefor lowering compression. Starting fluid also builds compression as well as combusts. So, if the injectors were cleaned, fuel pressure is proper, and the plugs are not fouled, it may be a pain in the rear to start the first few times out. Check connections both electrical and vacuum related. My turbo II was a royal pain to start the first 20 miles or so. I had to unplug the fuel pump a few times due to it flooding out. It's fine now. Compression is great and so forth. It'll need a few miles of break in to get it going properly. All things assuming proper tolerances and what not were followed during rebuild.
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Starter fluid indeed does help start flooded cars. I use it all the time when a car is flooded, that **** is gold. Beats the hell out of pulling the plugs and deflooding, or even pulling the EGI fuse and cranking for a while killing the battery.

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Originally Posted by thewird
Starter fluid indeed does help start flooded cars.
I learn something new every day. Never heard of that, but wish I had known it when I had 2nd gens, as they are rather prone to flooding.

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Solved:

Turned out to be a Circuit Relay--next to the EIG relay. It somehow went bad.
Once replaced, the injectors would trigger with the on switch and car starts
right up.
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glad you got it figured out.

and +1 for starter fluid, it also helps alleviate fouled plugs and dry the surfaces so they can fire more normally. fouled plugs may still spark, bug not strong enough to ignite the compressed air/fuel before blowing out the spark.
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