My Rx-8's cooling system VS Rx-7's. LOL
#1
My Rx-8's cooling system VS Rx-7's. LOL
Tell me this isn't funny. My first big trip in my 8, I went to reno. On my way back there is a 40 mile descent. Going up and down the hills that will last up to 5 or 6 miles each. anyway, I have done with many, many times with my FD and my old 99 Miata. With My FD during the summer I have to turn my heater on to keep the damn thing from overheating.
My Rx-8 has no such problem. No folks, no overheating issues.
With my Rx8 I have to turn the damn heat OFF during deceleration cause the gauge needle drops all the way to the left after doing down a hill. when I start to climb a hill again, my 8 warms back up and goes back to the middle.
Anyway, I thought this was funny as hell. Turn on the heat in the summer if you have an FD and turn off the heat during the winter if you have an FE!! Go Mazda!!! Oh yea, these are extreme conditions climing and droping elevation for miles at a time like I said.
Oh yea and my miata? the needle never moved, but either did the car.
My Rx-8 has no such problem. No folks, no overheating issues.
With my Rx8 I have to turn the damn heat OFF during deceleration cause the gauge needle drops all the way to the left after doing down a hill. when I start to climb a hill again, my 8 warms back up and goes back to the middle.
Anyway, I thought this was funny as hell. Turn on the heat in the summer if you have an FD and turn off the heat during the winter if you have an FE!! Go Mazda!!! Oh yea, these are extreme conditions climing and droping elevation for miles at a time like I said.
Oh yea and my miata? the needle never moved, but either did the car.
#2
If your needle in your 8 is moving around, something is wrong with your thermostat. Unless the 8 is set up in some strange way, your temp shouldn't drop like that. I mean, just idling in your driveway, it should maintain a certain operating temp.
#3
Originally posted by paw140
If your needle in your 8 is moving around, something is wrong with your thermostat. Unless the 8 is set up in some strange way, your temp shouldn't drop like that. I mean, just idling in your driveway, it should maintain a certain operating temp.
If your needle in your 8 is moving around, something is wrong with your thermostat. Unless the 8 is set up in some strange way, your temp shouldn't drop like that. I mean, just idling in your driveway, it should maintain a certain operating temp.
It was just in the mountains when descending for 5 or 6 miles the engine got too cold. after I got into sacramento it went back to normal.
I dont know, I just think its funny. if it ever happens around here I would be worried.
#5
Originally posted by bricke
I have never had to turn my heat on in the summer.. and never had any cooling issues at all with my FD.
I have never had to turn my heat on in the summer.. and never had any cooling issues at all with my FD.
#6
If the needle goes all the way to the left, I agree, something is wrong. Car makers have a "normal operating range" for coolant temperatures. The 8 is a water cooled engine, so there shouldn't be a rapid temperature drop coming down the hill. A small aircooled airplane engine is very quick to change temperatures on a rapid descent, especially after a full power climb, to the point where you can cause thermal shock to the cylinders. This isn't the case with cars though. The mass of metal in the engine and roughly 2 gallons of coolant would not allow such a large delta T on a gradual descent like yours. The engine is still producing heat while driving downhill also. It would be interesting to see if other owners have the same issues.....
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#8
Originally posted by gen3rx7
If the needle goes all the way to the left, I agree, something is wrong. Car makers have a "normal operating range" for coolant temperatures. The 8 is a water cooled engine, so there shouldn't be a rapid temperature drop coming down the hill. A small aircooled airplane engine is very quick to change temperatures on a rapid descent, especially after a full power climb, to the point where you can cause thermal shock to the cylinders. This isn't the case with cars though. The mass of metal in the engine and roughly 2 gallons of coolant would not allow such a large delta T on a gradual descent like yours. The engine is still producing heat while driving downhill also. It would be interesting to see if other owners have the same issues.....
If the needle goes all the way to the left, I agree, something is wrong. Car makers have a "normal operating range" for coolant temperatures. The 8 is a water cooled engine, so there shouldn't be a rapid temperature drop coming down the hill. A small aircooled airplane engine is very quick to change temperatures on a rapid descent, especially after a full power climb, to the point where you can cause thermal shock to the cylinders. This isn't the case with cars though. The mass of metal in the engine and roughly 2 gallons of coolant would not allow such a large delta T on a gradual descent like yours. The engine is still producing heat while driving downhill also. It would be interesting to see if other owners have the same issues.....
It doesn't sound normal, but its a mazda rotary so it probably is.
#14
i don't think there is anything wrong with that...if your traveling down a hill for 6 miles or so, you never touch the throttle, you only ride the brake...so it seems to me it would be like idling your car with 60 mile an hour winds blowing through your radiator...wouldn't that cool the coolant down a bit?
#15
I read somewhere that the cooling system of the Rx-8 is based on a motor controlled system. i.e. no belts o anything. Is this true?
Because I like the idea. Belt efficiency is often lower than motor efficiency. Plus, you get a much more rev-independent control of the radiator pump.
Because I like the idea. Belt efficiency is often lower than motor efficiency. Plus, you get a much more rev-independent control of the radiator pump.
#16
Let us know what it does after you add a couple of turbos...
FWIW, I've never had any heat issues with my FD as well... and I still have the stock AST!
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FWIW, I've never had any heat issues with my FD as well... and I still have the stock AST!
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#18
This also happened to me in my FD with stock cooling system. It was winter around here (Seattle) and I had my heat on high and fast speed setting. When going down a 1 mile hill, just coasting in neutral, the temp gauge slowly began to move to the cold side.
#19
That shouldn't happen. Doesn't matter if you are idling and lots of cool air going through the radiator. The temp is taken from the engine side of the thermostat. If it starts getting cool, the thermostat should close, and the engine at idle should produce more than enough heat to keep the temp up to normal. Sure the water in teh radiator is super cool, but that isn't being used or metered.
#20
Originally posted by bricke
I have never had to turn my heat on in the summer.. and never had any cooling issues at all with my FD.
I have never had to turn my heat on in the summer.. and never had any cooling issues at all with my FD.
...and this spring will be 11 years in my custody. I've driven in 110F temperatures in Tucson, up and down Vail Pass, CO in 80F temps at 11,000 feet at well over 100 mph. Never a problem.
(Well, except for the stock radiator which leaked...)
#23
your comparing a N/A rotary engine to a turboed rotary engine. Yes i know, good call sherlock, point being the turboed rotary will run hotter no matter what chassis. Bolt a turbo kit to that sega genesis renesis and see what happens.
Why did you dump your 7 for a Rx8??
Im not hating on rx8's but when i first saw one on the road cruising on the highway.(silver) As i saw it pull on the highway i thought, god damn that is the ugliest bodykit ive seen for a hyundai tiberon. So i paid no attention to it as i passed, then i saw the HID's. So then im thinking, those POS's dont come with HID's so i slowed down and was like,, Oh F---! thats a rx8. IMO i dont like their styling, but thats just me. Everyone has an opinion just like everyone has an *******.
Edit: what do you have now a 7 and an 8?
Why did you dump your 7 for a Rx8??
Im not hating on rx8's but when i first saw one on the road cruising on the highway.(silver) As i saw it pull on the highway i thought, god damn that is the ugliest bodykit ive seen for a hyundai tiberon. So i paid no attention to it as i passed, then i saw the HID's. So then im thinking, those POS's dont come with HID's so i slowed down and was like,, Oh F---! thats a rx8. IMO i dont like their styling, but thats just me. Everyone has an opinion just like everyone has an *******.
Edit: what do you have now a 7 and an 8?
#24
Originally posted by Black Magic
your comparing a N/A rotary engine to a turboed rotary engine. Yes i know, good call sherlock, point being the turboed rotary will run hotter no matter what chassis. Bolt a turbo kit to that sega genesis renesis and see what happens.
your comparing a N/A rotary engine to a turboed rotary engine. Yes i know, good call sherlock, point being the turboed rotary will run hotter no matter what chassis. Bolt a turbo kit to that sega genesis renesis and see what happens.
Why did you dump your 7 for a Rx8??
Im not hating on rx8's but when i first saw one on the road cruising on the highway.(silver) As i saw it pull on the highway i thought, god damn that is the ugliest bodykit ive seen for a hyundai tiberon. So i paid no attention to it as i passed, then i saw the HID's. So then im thinking, those POS's dont come with HID's so i slowed down and was like,, Oh F---! thats a rx8. IMO i dont like their styling, but thats just me. Everyone has an opinion just like everyone has an *******.
Edit: what do you have now a 7 and an 8?
Yes I have a 7 and an 8.